Just thought I’d provide some information from a Giants team employee.
-Giants LOVE D White but think #6 is too high and #17 he will be gone. So they are discussing internally about packaging #17/pick/player to move up.
-They are torn on Murray/Haskins vs 2020 QBs vs Rosen.
If Rosen they do not want to give us 1st round pick. If they do trade for QB this year aka Rosen, it will be heavy heavy defensive draft.
-There have been discussions on moving Jenkins, Shepherd, Ogletree but nothing serious at the moment.
-They like the Wisconsin o-lineman and Clemson d-lineman.
Some info might be known but just thought Id share. Anything else Ill post here or anything new I hear. Thanks - Go Giants!
As far as other options, I’m a big proponent of going heavy on defense. I very much like the move of moving up to get white in packaging the #17 pick and a player. I do hope that we can get a good RT in this draft.
Shurmur sucks. This organization is a mess now. Why should he be trusted? He's a shitty Head Coach. Complete milquetoast. I can't wait to see him fired.
They know that the edge monster available at 6 will be too good to pass up; add in Devin white, and NYG D is fun to watch again
If Bosa, Allen and Q Williams are gone, pull the trigger. He may well be the next best player in this draft after those guys.
If Allen is pick #6, who do we want at 17?
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Who are we to question Pat Shurmur in evaluating talent. I do admit, I am lukewarm on Haskins; however, if DG and PS like him and feel that he is the franchise quarterback of the future, then I am comfortable with it. I am not a QB evaluator and most people on this board are not professional QB evaluators. We have to trust the professionals who are running this organization to evaluate the talent. So far, regarding the draft, they have done very well in evaluating talent.
As far as other options, I’m a big proponent of going heavy on defense. I very much like the move of moving up to get white in packaging the #17 pick and a player. I do hope that we can get a good RT in this draft.
Shurmur sucks. This organization is a mess now. Why should he be trusted? He's a shitty Head Coach. Complete milquetoast. I can't wait to see him fired.
Yep grinning Todd Bowles had more of a personality than this clown:
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In comment 14341084 Sean said:
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From all indications, Eli will be the week 1 starter. If Rosen is here, he needs to start week 1, he’s already gone through the growing pains.
I would be all for Rosen for a few reasons:
-You would get him at a great value.
-If he pans out, the next guy is in place.
-If he doesn’t pan out, draft a QB at 2020 with little consequence.
I’m intrigued by Murray.
Agreed. I even thought about the fact that I would be totally fine if we trade our 2nd rounder for Rosen, and then if we're sitting there at #6 and Haskins falls to us we take him too. It sounds like a waste, but there's no more important position than QB and I like our odds that ONE of those guys is going to pan out. If they both pan out, well having 2 franchise QBs on our roster is a good problem to have (and we can trade of one them too). In this scenario we'll still get a great player at #17 too (just take the best guy that falls to us).
Different era (and we'd be so lucky), but look at Steve Young in San Francisco. Young was a top QB coming out of BYU, went to the USFL and his rights were acquired by Tampa Bay. He split time in Tampa with Mentor QB to the Stars, Steve DeBerg in 1986. And then the Bucs finished with the worst record in the NFL in 1986. The top pick was unanimous, our friend Vinny. So what did the Bucs do? Traded him to the 49ers because the Niners watched Montana coming off back surgery and saw Jim Burt bounce his head off the Giants Stadium turf like a basketball and wanted a good backup. Young sat behind Montana until 1991.
Point being, it's completely possible if the Giants trade for Rosen, he will sit regardless and the Giants will ease him in and let Eli do his thing. It's Eli's team up until the Giants fall out of contention (which the Giants org seems to think won't be a problem, but we as fans have already seen this movie before). So instead of Geno Smith or Kyle Lauletta, if/when this happens, they will actually have a QB who might be the real heir.
I hope you're right, and I know what Anak posted and Colin@GBN said, but right now it's hard to believe the Giants have any interest in Rosen given what JT and JonC have said. So unless they are way off base, it's hard to get pumped for that possibility right now.