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Report: Giants not interested in scouting Dwayne Haskins

GFAN52 : 3/15/2019 7:56 pm
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Dianna Russini of ESPN reports the Giants are not heavily scouting Haskins and have no intent on taking him in April’s draft barring an unforeseen change.

“About a week after the Combine, I circled back with some [Giants] people like, ‘What are you thinking Haskins? Do you guys like him? Do you think you are going for it with your No. 6 pick?’” Russini said on ESPN’s Breaking Big Blue podcast. “It was, ‘No, actually. We are not doing a lot of work on him.’

“I spoke to a few people. I’ll paraphrase one: ‘He doesn’t fit with us.’ The idea that they are not going go after a quarterback with the No. 6 pick solidifies they are not giving up on Eli (Manning).”

Early indications are that it may be Murray of bust for the Giants at No. 6, leaving them to select from one of the draft’s elite defensive prospects, which would be a satisfactory secondary option.

“I think we should be pretty confident they are going to go defense with that (No. 6) pick,” Russini said. “I think they are going to draft a quarterback. I just don’t think it’s going to be Haskins.”





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Also, we have no idea of how much they may have already scouted  
Big Blue '56 : 3/15/2019 8:12 pm : link
him via reports and game film
RE: RE: none of this  
DonnieD89 : 3/15/2019 8:14 pm : link
In comment 14341061 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14341054 Bill in UT said:


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means anything



Agree


Anybody ever thought that they show no interest to signal to other teams, who are thinking of jumping in front of them? Interested or not, you can't show any interest. This information also goes against Oliver's asshat info. Not believing anything, until it happens.
RE: It’s ESPN take that for what it’s worth  
GFAN52 : 3/15/2019 8:14 pm : link
In comment 14341066 Dave on the UWS said:
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Let’s see who shows up Wed at the Ohio st pro day


They'll have a contingent there for sure since there are other OSU players they will be scouting in any event.
I’m glad but don’t they scout them all for due diligence?  
rdt288 : 3/15/2019 8:18 pm : link
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Screw the QBs lets load up on defense in a talented defensive draft.  
TMS : 3/15/2019 8:27 pm : link
Screw the ELI haters. MO
Don’t forget...  
Chris in Philly : 3/15/2019 8:28 pm : link
that everybody lies this time of year. And every other time for that matter.
“The giants don’t want to take a QB at 6”  
ajr2456 : 3/15/2019 8:37 pm : link
“It May be Murray or bust”

Little contradictory
RE: “The giants don’t want to take a QB at 6”  
GFAN52 : 3/15/2019 8:38 pm : link
In comment 14341120 ajr2456 said:
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“It May be Murray or bust”

Little contradictory


The won't get Murray at 6.
Good  
WillVAB : 3/15/2019 8:41 pm : link
Don’t want Byron Leftwich 2.0.
Good.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/15/2019 8:42 pm : link
Get our QB in 20.

Of course I want that sexy blonde beast from Clemson, but he's not coming out till 21.
From the NJ.com article on the same subject  
ajr2456 : 3/15/2019 8:44 pm : link
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NFL sources who spoke to NJ Advance Media are not convinced Jones is worthy of a first-round pick, but he has the pedigree that could tease the Giants into reaching. He was coached by David Cutliffe, the same coach who is intricately tied to the Manning family after coaching Peyton at the University of Tennessee and working on his own with Eli during offseasons.

Eli and Jones built a relationship through Cutliffe.
RE: Good  
djm : 3/15/2019 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14341043 Go Terps said:
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I've already seen Kerry Collins play QB here. Don't need to run it back.


He does kind of remind me of Collins... can’t argue there. What we won’t know until he plays is how he progresses throughout his career. Collins pretty much hit a ceiling early on, then bottomed out with all the off the field crap, got rescued, reached a ceiling again and never got any better. Time will tell.
RE: Screw the QBs lets load up on defense in a talented defensive draft.  
djm : 3/15/2019 8:59 pm : link
In comment 14341086 TMS said:
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Screw the ELI haters. MO


I really have no problem with either direction as long as they get a beast. To me it’s murray, who won’t be there or defensive bpa at pick 6. I can live with either. I can also live with Eli if the OL is fixed, and it’s very close.
RE: none of this  
DavidinBMNY : 3/15/2019 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14341054 Bill in UT said:
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means anything
agreed
yea because he stinks  
fanofthejets : 3/15/2019 9:08 pm : link
Smart move Giants. Go get Rosen and don't bother with this shit 2019 QB class
Or do they  
mattlawson : 3/15/2019 9:17 pm : link
....
The plan is to continue shopping for QBs  
UberAlias : 3/15/2019 9:36 pm : link
In the low rent zone.
I sure hope this is true  
jtfuoco : 3/15/2019 9:37 pm : link
I want nothing to do with Haskins either just be patient and go after a Qb in the 20 class there will be at least 3 studs to go after.
It doesn’t matter if there are great QBs in next draft  
UberAlias : 3/15/2019 9:39 pm : link
Unless they’re picking high enough to draft one. Here’s a news flash: they aren’t tanking.
And I don’t like Haskins either  
UberAlias : 3/15/2019 9:44 pm : link
Murray would be great, but probably not available. Rosen is the one they should be in on, but sounds like they’re not.
I’d be perfectly fine  
GoDeep13 : 3/15/2019 9:49 pm : link
With not drafting a QB at all this year and beefing up the Lines and our secondary. If we draft well enough this year then we can package whatever picks we need come next draft and get our QB then. But right now we have a lot of holes. The only movement we should do is maybe a few trade BACKS.
Good  
montanagiant : 3/15/2019 9:50 pm : link
Smart on their part
RE: Good  
montanagiant : 3/15/2019 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14341043 Go Terps said:
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I've already seen Kerry Collins play QB here. Don't need to run it back.

Perfect analogy
How can some of you folks believe this?  
yatqb : 3/15/2019 10:00 pm : link
The Giants, who need a QB, aren't scouting one of the 3 QBs expected to go in the 1st round?

I'm not suggesting they're necessarily high on him (or not) but not interested in scouting him? I'm calling bullshit.
RE: How can some of you folks believe this?  
eric2425ny : 3/15/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14341246 yatqb said:
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The Giants, who need a QB, aren't scouting one of the 3 QBs expected to go in the 1st round?

I'm not suggesting they're necessarily high on him (or not) but not interested in scouting him? I'm calling bullshit.


Same here, if anything this may mean they are more interested in him and this could be a smoke screen to keep teams from jumping ahead of them.
RE: Good  
cokeduplt : 3/15/2019 10:21 pm : link
In comment 14341131 WillVAB said:
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Don’t want Byron Leftwich 2.0.


I don’t teally want Haskins but the leftwich comp is crap
RE: RE: Good  
eric2425ny : 3/15/2019 10:26 pm : link
In comment 14341236 montanagiant said:
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In comment 14341043 Go Terps said:


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I've already seen Kerry Collins play QB here. Don't need to run it back.


Perfect analogy


Collins was a decent QB here. If Haskins is as good as Collins I have no issue drafting him. Collins didn’t have a RB anything like Barkley (he had young Tiki who coughed up the ball a lot in the Fassel era).
where there is no smoke  
GiantGrit : 3/15/2019 11:36 pm : link
there is fire
...  
christian : 3/15/2019 11:43 pm : link
If the Giants aren't scouting one of the better QBs in a year they have a top 10 pick, and an aging QB, that should worry everyone.
RE: Good  
since1925 : 3/15/2019 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14341043 Go Terps said:
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I've already seen Kerry Collins play QB here. Don't need to run it back.


Kerry got us to a super bowl. I would mind running back to that.
RE: ...  
81_Great_Dane : 3/16/2019 12:23 am : link
In comment 14341371 christian said:
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If the Giants aren't scouting one of the better QBs in a year they have a top 10 pick, and an aging QB, that should worry everyone.
unless they don’t think he is one of the top QBs in the draft—or have decided not to draft him under any circumstances. If they don’t like his game that is entirely possible.
Kerry Collins was a  
McNally's_Nuts : 3/16/2019 12:27 am : link
serviceable QB for us and was the bridge between Simms and the utter shit that followed Simms.

If Haskins turns out to be Kerry Collins, that’s severely underwhelming
So when Haskins has his Pro Day the Giants won't...  
Torrag : 3/16/2019 1:01 am : link
...be there and won't meet with him afterward? This is so fucking stupid. Of course they will.
Murray will plummet in the draft, perhaps out of the first round. i  
plato : 3/16/2019 1:40 am : link
will be interested in seeing what professional scouting departments and teams think of him when it’s money on the table, not words to the media.
Adam Schein...  
bw in dc : 3/16/2019 2:02 am : link
was saying this yesterday on his radio show, too.

He said he heard that the Giants really don’t have him on their board anymore. That they’ve moved on from him as a top round prospect.
RE: none of this  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/16/2019 2:17 am : link
In comment 14341054 Bill in UT said:
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means anything


Ding ding! This is the same reporter who wrote a few days ago, before they traded for pick 17, that the Giants were definitely drafting a defender at 6. This new assertion means very, very little.
RE: Adam Schein...  
Giants38 : 3/16/2019 2:17 am : link
In comment 14341436 bw in dc said:
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was saying this yesterday on his radio show, too.

He said he heard that the Giants really don’t have him on their board anymore. That they’ve moved on from him as a top round prospect.


What is the reasoning? That he can't run? I didn't hear the show. I think Haskins is going to be a stud. But what I think doesn't matter in the Giants' selection process.
RE: RE: Adam Schein...  
bw in dc : 3/16/2019 2:28 am : link
In comment 14341444 Giants38 said:
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In comment 14341436 bw in dc said:


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was saying this yesterday on his radio show, too.

He said he heard that the Giants really don’t have him on their board anymore. That they’ve moved on from him as a top round prospect.



What is the reasoning? That he can't run? I didn't hear the show. I think Haskins is going to be a stud. But what I think doesn't matter in the Giants' selection process.


I sort of caught the tail end. So I didn’t get the full context.

I think it centered around the Combine and the Giants came away just not blown away. Whether that was his work in drills and/or the interview, I don’t know.
RE: The plan is to continue shopping for QBs  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/16/2019 2:33 am : link
In comment 14341207 UberAlias said:
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In the low rent zone.


That's what she is saying more or less. There have been rumors about their interest in Stidham. And of course Jones if he drops some, like to 37 or better yet 95. Then you have Grier and Finley and Rypien. Not to mention my pet pick Lock.

Isn't one of Shurmur's strengths his ability to develop QBs? Lauletta appears to be pissing away his chances, but if they think Eli still has it, why wouldn't they toss a mid round pick into the QB pond once again?

Of course that directly contradicts what Gettleman said before the combine, but he's getting known to prevaricate a bit now and then.
RE: .  
joeinpa : 3/16/2019 7:08 am : link
In comment 14341049 Banks said:
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Don't like any qb at 6. Hope this is true


Yea, don’t want to create any quarterback controversy if Eli struggles, “Paul Dottino school of thought “
Don’t have a problem with QB controversy  
jeff57 : 3/16/2019 7:11 am : link
I just don’t like this QB crop. Although I’d take a shot on Lock at 17.
RE: Screw the QBs lets load up on defense in a talented defensive draft.  
joeinpa : 3/16/2019 7:11 am : link
In comment 14341086 TMS said:
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Screw the ELI haters. MO


Yea anyone that would like to get a younger quarterback to begin the transition is an Eli hater.

I live Eli, what I hate is so called Giants fans who are bigger Eli fans than Giants fans
joe-  
Sean : 3/16/2019 8:25 am : link
This is no surprise to me & the worst thing the Giants could do is take QB because they feel they have to. My concern is they will have a ton of competition in 2020 for QB’s.

Not to revisit this debate, but this was the risk with not taking Darnold last year. It’s a hard position to fill.
RE: Don’t have a problem with QB controversy  
GFAN52 : 3/16/2019 9:12 am : link
In comment 14341502 jeff57 said:
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I just don’t like this QB crop. Although I’d take a shot on Lock at 17.


I wouldn't mind Lock there as well. Lock is probably getting taken by Denver.
RE: RE: The plan is to continue shopping for QBs  
ajr2456 : 3/16/2019 9:16 am : link
In comment 14341451 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In the low rent zone.



That's what she is saying more or less. There have been rumors about their interest in Stidham. And of course Jones if he drops some, like to 37 or better yet 95. Then you have Grier and Finley and Rypien. Not to mention my pet pick Lock.

Isn't one of Shurmur's strengths his ability to develop QBs? Lauletta appears to be pissing away his chances, but if they think Eli still has it, why wouldn't they toss a mid round pick into the QB pond once again?

Of course that directly contradicts what Gettleman said before the combine, but he's getting known to prevaricate a bit now and then.


If they’re passing on Haskins to waste a pick on Stidham, Grier, Finley or Rypien we’re in a lot of trouble.

Stop trying to turn mid round QBs into franchise QBs
Lock at 17 would be a good value pick  
Dave on the UWS : 3/16/2019 9:53 am : link
Jones at their 2nd would also. I don't buy this report. The Giants had dinner with Haskins the Fri nite at the combine and reports were they were impressed. Lets see how he does Wed at his pro day.
RE: Lock at 17 would be a good value pick  
smokeybandit : 3/16/2019 12:40 pm : link
Haskins is basically just a younger version of the current Eli. No way I'd draft him.

Haskins is as mobile as a dead tree and has one year of true experience, most of that in a dink and dunk offense.
Good !  
Bluesbreaker : 3/16/2019 1:35 pm : link
I wouldn't take him at #6 or anywhere else .
Aren’t even scouting him  
ajr2456 : 3/16/2019 2:05 pm : link
Hmm.
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Obviously DG and Shurmur blow a lot of smoke.  
TMS : 3/16/2019 5:44 pm : link
As a fan I like that. Everybody else is doing the same. So far I am loving the job they have done. We will see if it is all an illusion. Think where we were last year. Except we will certainly miss those OBJ high lights.
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