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Possible Asshat Info Regarding Josh Rosen Trade

Anakim : 3/15/2019 8:26 pm
A co-worker of mine who claims to know someone with an NFC West team told me that a Josh Rosen trade is not, I repeat, NOT imminent, but the Giants ARE interested in Rosen and are keeping tabs. He said that Cardinals want a first rounder, but will "settle" for a second rounder if they conclude that Kyler Murray is their QB of the future, which many believe they will.

However, the Cardinals may be willing to Hasson Reddick (specifically) in any Rosen deal in order to get a better pick. Giants would presumably be interested because apparently, James Bettcher was the driving force behind the Reddick pick and think he has "the potential to be an All-Pro." He thinks that the Giants will probably be willing to part with 17 if the deal is Rosen AND Reddick.
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Should say  
Anakim : 3/15/2019 8:28 pm : link
*may be willing to include
I would send Shepard and number 37  
Rjanyg : 3/15/2019 8:29 pm : link
To get Rosen and Reddick. Maybe get a 4th rounder back.
If this is true  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:30 pm : link
And the Giants made this move it would essentially be Beckham and Vernon for Rosen, Zeitler, Reddick, Peppers, and a 3rd.
That is interesting  
BSIMatt : 3/15/2019 8:31 pm : link
Thanks.
Thats 4 former 1st round picks and a 3rd  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:32 pm : link
For Beckham basically.
Thanks, Anak.  
Mike from Ohio : 3/15/2019 8:32 pm : link
There really is no rush for the Cardinals to do anything until right before the draft. Once they draft Murray, getting full value for Rosen will be more difficult.
Im in for 17 for Rosen and Reddick  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2019 8:32 pm : link
Rosen by himself for a 2nd.
RE: Thats 4 former 1st round picks and a 3rd  
mphbullet36 : 3/15/2019 8:33 pm : link
In comment 14341097 Jay on the Island said:
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For Beckham basically.

i don't think you can use that. Reddick has played nothing like a 1st round pick
Interesting  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/15/2019 8:34 pm : link
thx Anakim
If Arizona is set on taking Murray #1  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:34 pm : link
Then I would be very happy to take a chance on Rosen if the cost is a 2nd. I dont want any of the other QBs projected to go in the 1st round.
Thanks  
AcidTest : 3/15/2019 8:35 pm : link
for the information.
i might give up #37 for Rosen  
mphbullet36 : 3/15/2019 8:35 pm : link
but no way im giving up #17 even if they add Reddick
RE: Thats 4 former 1st round picks and a 3rd  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2019 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14341097 Jay on the Island said:
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For Beckham basically.


Who's the 4th? Rosen, Reddick, Peppers, and?
RE: RE: Thats 4 former 1st round picks and a 3rd  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14341100 mphbullet36 said:
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In comment 14341097 Jay on the Island said:


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For Beckham basically.


i don't think you can use that. Reddick has played nothing like a 1st round pick

He was a 1st round pick is what I was saying. Hes only been in the league for 2 years. Perhaps a switch back to the 3-4 will help him take that next step.
RE: RE: Thats 4 former 1st round picks and a 3rd  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14341109 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 14341097 Jay on the Island said:


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For Beckham basically.



Who's the 4th? Rosen, Reddick, Peppers, and?

Zeitler.
3rd  
WillVAB : 3/15/2019 8:36 pm : link
The Giants are bidding against themselves if this is true.
RE: RE: Thats 4 former 1st round picks and a 3rd  
Anakim : 3/15/2019 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14341109 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 14341097 Jay on the Island said:


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For Beckham basically.



Who's the 4th? Rosen, Reddick, Peppers, and?


Zeitler
Very interesting  
ChathamMark : 3/15/2019 8:37 pm : link
Thanks, Anak.
Was this info before the Miami trade of Tannehill?  
GFAN52 : 3/15/2019 8:37 pm : link
Because at this point I would think they are the front-runners for Rosen and probably would be willing to trade their #13 1st rd pick.
We should just trade  
WeekendLife56 : 3/15/2019 8:37 pm : link
Our 52 for the cardinals 52 and call it a day
Ok. I guess I dont know how Zeitler is attached to  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2019 8:37 pm : link
Beckham.
RE: 3rd  
mphbullet36 : 3/15/2019 8:38 pm : link
In comment 14341112 WillVAB said:
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The Giants are bidding against themselves if this is true.


yeah they need to play the waiting game with the cardinals they aren't going to keep both on there roster and unless someone is will to give up a #1 (which is highly doubt). I would max give up the #2
RE: Ok. I guess I dont know how Zeitler is attached to  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:38 pm : link
In comment 14341119 ZGiants98 said:
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Beckham.

Seriously? He was part of the revised package for Beckham.
Reddick has been a  
Bill in UT : 3/15/2019 8:39 pm : link
nothingburger. It's like offering to throw in Apple
RE: RE: 3rd  
GFAN52 : 3/15/2019 8:39 pm : link
In comment 14341122 mphbullet36 said:
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The Giants are bidding against themselves if this is true.



yeah they need to play the waiting game with the cardinals they aren't going to keep both on there roster and unless someone is will to give up a #1 (which is highly doubt). I would max give up the #2


The Dolphins may give up a 1st.
RE: RE: Ok. I guess I dont know how Zeitler is attached to  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2019 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14341123 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14341119 ZGiants98 said:


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Beckham.


Seriously? He was part of the revised package for Beckham.


Really? Im genuinely asking because now you have me freaked out. Didn't we trade Olivier Vernon for Zeitler?
RE: RE: RE: 3rd  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14341126 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 14341112 WillVAB said:


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The Giants are bidding against themselves if this is true.



yeah they need to play the waiting game with the cardinals they aren't going to keep both on there roster and unless someone is will to give up a #1 (which is highly doubt). I would max give up the #2



The Dolphins may give up a 1st.

No they wont. Its no secret that they are targeting Tua in 2020.
If the Cards wait until they  
Bill in UT : 3/15/2019 8:41 pm : link
pick Murray on draft day to shop Rosen, his value drops like a very large stone
RE: Was this info before the Miami trade of Tannehill?  
Matt in SGS : 3/15/2019 8:42 pm : link
In comment 14341117 GFAN52 said:
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Because at this point I would think they are the front-runners for Rosen and probably would be willing to trade their #13 1st rd pick.


The Dolphins are going full Tiananmen Square in 2019. They are rolling out the tanks and looking to get a 2020 QB.
Only problem is the Giants have already decided ,  
TMS : 3/15/2019 8:42 pm : link
They do not want Rosen at all. Accept it and stop nagging everyone. Post after post after post.
Thanks for sharing..  
Sean : 3/15/2019 8:42 pm : link
Trading for Rosen means moving on from Eli now, so Im skeptical.
Don't forget  
Mr. Nickels : 3/15/2019 8:42 pm : link
we got Corey Coleman for free a former 1st of theirs!!
How can the Giants NOT trade for Haason Reddick?  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/15/2019 8:42 pm : link
He's a young Arizona Cardinal from New Jersey, who started his NFL career under Bettcher.
RE: RE: RE: Ok. I guess I dont know how Zeitler is attached to  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:42 pm : link
In comment 14341128 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 14341123 Jay on the Island said:


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In comment 14341119 ZGiants98 said:


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Beckham.


Seriously? He was part of the revised package for Beckham.



Really? Im genuinely asking because now you have me freaked out. Didn't we trade Olivier Vernon for Zeitler?

Originally it was that with the Giants sending a 4th also for Zeitler and a 5th. Since it wasnt official before the Beckham trade they added both players to the Beckham deal but eliminated the 4th and 5th round picks. So it was Beckham and Vernon for Zeitler, Peppers, 1st and 3rd
RE: How can the Giants NOT trade for Haason Reddick?  
hitdog42 : 3/15/2019 8:44 pm : link
In comment 14341136 Big Blue Blogger said:
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He's a young Arizona Cardinal from New Jersey, who started his NFL career under Bettcher.


Lol- wins the thread
RE: RE: RE: 3rd  
mphbullet36 : 3/15/2019 8:44 pm : link
In comment 14341126 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 14341112 WillVAB said:


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The Giants are bidding against themselves if this is true.



yeah they need to play the waiting game with the cardinals they aren't going to keep both on there roster and unless someone is will to give up a #1 (which is highly doubt). I would max give up the #2



The Dolphins may give up a 1st.


then let them overpay...he isn't worth a first
Z  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:45 pm : link
I agree with you I would rather trade a 2nd for Rosen than the 17th pick for Rosen and Reddick but if thats the only way to close the deal I would do it. Getting Rosen and keeping two 1st round picks would be a huge development for this team.
Damn guess I missed that part. Thanks  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2019 8:45 pm : link
Still think it would have made more sense if you said we would have been getting back 4 former first round picks for Beckham AND Vernon. But gotcha.
RE: How can the Giants NOT trade for Haason Reddick?  
Matt in SGS : 3/15/2019 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14341136 Big Blue Blogger said:
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He's a young Arizona Cardinal from New Jersey, who started his NFL career under Bettcher.


Giants new logo



Giants move their camp to Skylands Park in Sparta.
RE: Z  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2019 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14341144 Jay on the Island said:
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I agree with you I would rather trade a 2nd for Rosen than the 17th pick for Rosen and Reddick but if thats the only way to close the deal I would do it. Getting Rosen and keeping two 1st round picks would be a huge development for this team.


Yeah. Im back on board with the Giants 100% if they can pull this off. Right now I think we are a mess, but if they can make something like this happen, my hat will be off.
I can't keep up with all of this "Asshat" Information  
ZogZerg : 3/15/2019 8:46 pm : link
We need a score card!
RE: Im in for 17 for Rosen and Reddick  
bouchy24 : 3/15/2019 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14341099 ZGiants98 said:
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Rosen by himself for a 2nd.



Sign me up. I like Rosen better than any QB in this draft.
I'm  
Jon in NYC : 3/15/2019 8:47 pm : link
in for Rosen + Reddick for no. 17.
RE: Damn guess I missed that part. Thanks  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:49 pm : link
In comment 14341145 ZGiants98 said:
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Still think it would have made more sense if you said we would have been getting back 4 former first round picks for Beckham AND Vernon. But gotcha.

I did lol.

If this is true
Jay on the Island : 8:30 pm : link : reply
And the Giants made this move it would essentially be Beckham and Vernon for Rosen, Zeitler, Reddick, Peppers, and a 3rd.
Im posting on my iphone  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:51 pm : link
So i get lazy writing and often leave stuff out Id normally include.
RE: RE: Damn guess I missed that part. Thanks  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2019 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14341153 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14341145 ZGiants98 said:


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Still think it would have made more sense if you said we would have been getting back 4 former first round picks for Beckham AND Vernon. But gotcha.


I did lol.

If this is true
Jay on the Island : 8:30 pm : link : reply
And the Giants made this move it would essentially be Beckham and Vernon for Rosen, Zeitler, Reddick, Peppers, and a 3rd.


🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Holy smokes. Lol. Long day and even longer week. Apologies.
So this is just saying  
adamg : 3/15/2019 8:51 pm : link
the Giants are interested in Rosen but there are no talks currently?
RE: So this is just saying  
GFAN52 : 3/15/2019 8:53 pm : link
In comment 14341159 adamg said:
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the Giants are interested in Rosen but there are no talks currently?


This part...."interested in Rosen and are keeping tabs."
RE: Was this info before the Miami trade of Tannehill?  
Anakim : 3/15/2019 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14341117 GFAN52 said:
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Because at this point I would think they are the front-runners for Rosen and probably would be willing to trade their #13 1st rd pick.


I don't know when my co-worker and his friend spoke
Its fine dude  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 8:56 pm : link
Ive been so down on the future of this franchise prior to the last two days. If they pulled off this trade or came away with Murray in the draft then I would feel significantly more hopeful about the direction of this team. I believe Rosen has franchise upside and it would be fun to see him develop next to Barkley. Trade a 2nd for Rosen then draft Sweat and OT Andre Dillard or Jawaan Taylor in the 1st round and I will be excited heading into the season.
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