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Had a realization today. This is offenses personnel = Rams

Breeze_94 : 3/15/2019 9:45 pm

The Giants personnel right now is very similar to the Rams the last couple of years. This offense could be pretty dangerous if you add in a young QB.

Barkley is our Gurley, but decidedly better.

Shep/Tate are pretty interchangeable with Kupp/Woods. All of these guys are undersized and rely on quickness, route running, and attacking defenses in the middle of the field and underneath instead of vertically.

Engram is a way better weapon than any of LA's TE's, but him and Gerald Everett are similar in play style. Speedy, move Tight Ends.

Giants just need to find a vert threat like Cooks to man the outside receiver spot.

Giants have a strong interior OL now with one of the best guard tandems in the league (hopefully), and Solder is the Giants version of Whitworth- solid vet tackle (Whitworth is obviously better but Solder was very good down the stretch last year)

Also similar in scheme- lots of motion, play action, and crossing routes.

Agree with much of this

eric2425ny : 3/15/2019 9:51 pm : link

but I�ll take Kupp and Woods over Shep and Tate. I like Shep and Tate but Kupp looks like a rising star as long as he is able to come back from that knee last year.

Danny Kanell : 3/15/2019 9:51 pm : link

Unfortunately they have McVay and we have Shurmur.

The offense is similar

George from PA : 3/15/2019 10:01 pm : link

The problem...the defense is not

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mrvax : 3/15/2019 10:04 pm : link

In comment 14341239 Danny Kanell said:

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Unfortunately they have McVay and we have Shurmur.

McVay isn't that bad, just young.

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eric2425ny : 3/15/2019 10:06 pm : link

In comment 14341256 mrvax said:

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In comment 14341239 Danny Kanell said:

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Unfortunately they have McVay and we have Shurmur.

McVay isn't that bad, just young.

I think he was saying McVay is > Shurmur.

Here some news

djstat : 3/15/2019 10:06 pm : link

Offense can be pretty dangerous with Eli if the line is decent

pass

Mr. Nickels : 3/15/2019 10:14 pm : link

the crack

Sure it is.

Ten Ton Hammer : 3/15/2019 10:17 pm : link

Why are we looking for comps?

ajr2456 : 3/15/2019 10:21 pm : link

And Woods and Kupp > Tate and Shepard. It�s not close tbh.

We have no

Doomster : 3/15/2019 10:23 pm : link

C and RT.....

Banks : 3/15/2019 10:32 pm : link

their Oline was vastly better. Even CJ Anderson was running wild for them behind that line. This year the line has improved, but are they good? I'm not confident yet

The Rams had all pros and pro bowlers at offensive line

Ten Ton Hammer : 3/15/2019 10:40 pm : link

Two of our starting five are Chad Wheeler and a guy with 2 career starts at Center.

Rams offense in the Super Bowl

morrison40 : 3/15/2019 11:34 pm : link

Didn't look too hot to me

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christian : 3/15/2019 11:38 pm : link

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Giants just need to find a vert threat like Cooks to man the outside receiver spot.

Hmm ... I wonder if the Giants maybe traded a guy just like that?

I get Woods, but I don't understand the love for Kupp over Shep

ChaChing : 3/16/2019 12:00 am : link

They have almost the same production to a T. And while recovery is not as tough today, Kupp has an ACL being especially dependent on quick twitch & change of direction, more than even just straight line speed. Shep is healthy

Actually looking at Woods as well, while he is younger and on the upswing, he's had 1 big year. Tate has 3-4 in the last 5. I'd probably prefer Woods today but I'm not sure those WRs are so much better. If Eli didn't have much team support, you'd argue these guys had the same disadvantages compared to the Rams O. And still had comparable production on a shit team...

My bad...only Shep on a bad team

ChaChing : 3/16/2019 12:02 am : link

Tate obviously had a different back story, mostly mid season trade and new O...fwiw. But still not the advantages of playing in the same solid O a few years in a row

SHEP is a lunchpail type

OBJ_AllDay : 3/16/2019 12:20 am : link

And a willing blocker. But let�s not pretend he doesn�t run in quicksand and disappear for large stretches. Also drops his fair share of balls

Rams OL Much Better

Samiam : 3/16/2019 12:23 am : link

Krupp is also way better than Shep

Not seeing it

SLIM_ : 3/16/2019 4:10 am : link

You mentioned that we don't have a Cooks yet. We do have an Ellison. I think someone provided a stat last year regarding their personnel package is almost strictly 1-1. We've seen at the end of last year that the best package seemed to be 2 tight ends and we have heard some rumors that the focus will be on that package moving forward.

The real shocker

George from PA : 3/16/2019 5:54 am : link

Rams probably win Super Bowl if Eli was QB

RE: The real shocker

ajr2456 : 3/16/2019 8:19 am : link

In comment 14341465 George from PA said:

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Rams probably win Super Bowl if Eli was QB

Yea, no

Kool-Aid, it's a helluva drug

HomerJones45 : 3/16/2019 9:18 am : link

and the OP swallowed it by the gallon.

more relevant than LAR are offenses Shurmur has run like MIN '17

Eric on Li : 3/16/2019 9:29 am : link

Cook = Barkley
Diggs = Shepard
Tate = Thielen
Rudolph = Engram

Obviously those aren't direct matches, and in Cook's case he got hurt in the first month, but in the big picture of equivalent talents, it's pretty close.

That year the Vikings had the 10th ranked offense with Case Keenum at QB. Their rebuilt OL was solid but also didn't have a single player on it who had ever been to a pro bowl. They were #2 in rushing attempts.

They were also #1 in overall defense, but that's another story.

RE: RE: The real shocker

Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/16/2019 9:41 am : link

In comment 14341555 ajr2456 said:

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In comment 14341465 George from PA said:

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Rams probably win Super Bowl if Eli was QB

Yea, no

Give me Playoff Eli over Goff any day with a big game on the line