Wondering what the boards opinion is on this. We're mostly agreed that the RT position needs to be upgraded, either in the draft on by free agency. We watched last year as the offensive line failed to set the edge repeatedly on runs by Barkley.
Now as much as Chad Wheeler left a lot to be desired as a blocker, more times than not I noticed Ellison's repeated inability to set the edge as well. Just a thought: The reviews of T.J. Hochenson's ability not only to catch but block might go a long way towards solving our problem of not being about to run wide. I've watched a lot of Hochenson's blocking and I for one am impressed.
Maybe having a great blocking tight end would make our tackles job so much easier. Offensive line play is a great example where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Just as two great blocking guards might make Halapio look better at center, maybe Hochenson would make any tackle look that much better. Where is he projected to go in the draft? Is it possible to get him with our second first round pick? Looks like Mark Bavaro part II.
I know the concern with him is blocking, but that can be covered up with upgrades along the offensive line. It just seems like taking another tight end in the first round would be a waste of resources at this point.
Kaden Smith, C.J Conrad, Zach Gentry are all options early on day three.
Is everybody here in agreement that our blocking from the tight end position was as bad as any in the league? I don't mind Engram as a receiving tight end but we need someone who can block in line, as well as being more than just the occasional receiving threat. It would make Barkley that much more successful.
Is everybody here in agreement that our blocking from the tight end position was as bad as any in the league? I don't mind Engram as a receiving tight end but we need someone who can block in line, as well as being more than just the occasional receiving threat. It would make Barkley that much more successful.
The blocking wasn't good but it wasn't the worst in football. It was very disappointing that Ellison struggled at times as a blocker. That's the main reason that he was signed and if he improve as a blocker this season it will likely be his last with the Giants.
5th might be the round, 'former or too light' offensive tackles.
Was Ed Shaheen last year? Player had great size and game, small school prospect who rose after initially being over looked.
5th might be the round, 'former or too light' offensive tackles.
Was Ed Shaheen last year? Player had great size and game, small school prospect who rose after initially being over looked.
Simonson did seem to improve as the season wore on. Or maybe the coaches saw what I did and wanted to give him more opportunity to play over Ellison in certain situations..
For comp Ellison claims 255.
I think EE was 245 at draft?
Hochinson Puts Someone On their Ass - ( New Window )
Everybody keeps saying that and we haven't had one since Howard Cross.
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priorities than TE. You can probably pick up a good blocking TE on Day 3
Everybody keeps saying that and we haven't had one since Howard Cross.
It could depend on what you're looking for. If you're looking for the total package, run, catch and block, you're going to have a lot of misses. If your only concern is blocking, I think you can find someone like that.
no offense taken :)
2-- We could use a better center.
3-- We could use a better QB
4-- We need a better ILB core
5-- We need a DL passrusher
6-- We need at least one safety and one CB
7-- you can get good blocking tight ends in later rounds. If your point is that we haven't -- then the issue is with the scouting not forcing a selection in an earlier round.
If Gant is available in rd 2 I'd strongly consider him. But in 1st rd I either want a QB or I want an OL or front 7 pick first.
2-- We could use a better center.
3-- We could use a better QB
4-- We need a better ILB core
5-- We need a DL passrusher
6-- We need at least one safety and one CB
7-- you can get good blocking tight ends in later rounds. If your point is that we haven't -- then the issue is with the scouting not forcing a selection in an earlier round.
If Gant is available in rd 2 I'd strongly consider him. But in 1st rd I either want a QB or I want an OL or front 7 pick first.
We'll probably get a right tackle. We probably won't get a better center though I think it would be nice for a change to value that position. We're not getting a QB. Would love Devin White and I think we could get him. We'll definitely get an edge rusher just don't know who. Nice to have a couple to choose from. Don't forget about Sam Beal.
Center and blocking TE are like scheduling your colonoscopy on this team. You know you need one but somehow it just never happens.
Center and blocking TE are like scheduling your colonoscopy on this team. You know you need one but somehow it just never happens.
oh, yeah? Talk to my butt
from passing on Ramzyk was they needed a TE who could block to help a putrid OL. Engram is not that TE. But a TE like Hochensen can catch & block. That NE offense was very good until that schmuck Hernandez did what he did. I think a very good TE would be a big time help to Barkley as well