does not mean the “o” line will be a cohesive unit. this takes time learning to work with each other, with the running backs, and the passing game. The giants started to get better after the break not just because brown added something good, but the line was more cohesive and was used to working with SB.
The contract with the union limits practice and contact (physical and otherwise) which makes cohesion harder to obtain except over years.
My point is for the giants just adding a RT will just make for three new instead of 2 new players. It will take some time for zeitler and Pio to learn to work together and Pio rather than Pulley may be more physically talented but he will need to work into the line with a new guard on his right.
I don’t know how we get a talented line that is cohesive and that can work with our rbs this season. it seems we need talent and time, when we don’t have either, for the line to come out of the gate in September really ready to help the offense win.
Last season the redskins signed two veteran offensive linemen the week before a game and they both started the next game and played relatively well.
Hard to be optimistic with a plug n play line. We’ll see in preseason and September. I tend to be on the pessimistic side.
I would think they'll still land some level of vet and a high draft slot rookie to battle for minutes in 2019.
For a 39 yo QB that is GIGANTIC.
Addition by subtraction.
I tend to agree, but it was striking how slowly Solder came along.
There was plenty of ink on getting comfortable with Hernandez and also getting used to the depth Manning liked in a pocket.
I won't be surprised if with 3/5 potentially new lineman and several new receivers, the pass protection and timing doesn't take half a season to develop.
When you suck, you suck, he sucked. We need players that don't suck.
Solder and Hernandez were great down the stretch and I would blame the inexperience of a rookie combined with a LT getting used to a new system and suffering from the substandard of a learning RG for the early problems. But the BIGGEST problem was the right side and center where Eli was unable to step up into the pocket which meant Solders guy was literally backed down into Eli on a regular basis. By mid season Eli was stepping up and Solder was guiding the DE right by and out of the play for the most part.
IF we can get a RT I think we can have a really solid line, one good enough to take us to the big dance. But they need the supporting cast of a defense.
Hala Pio. I didn't get it at first either.
Hanging out is important but lets not kid ourselves it absolutely takes time to gel, especially with the coordinators who stunt and throw crazy blitzes at guys.
One can find center projects.
5th round.
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Really good at picking up stunts as pointed out in the breakdown by Banks and Papa. That is GIGANTIC. It has been a HUGE issue for this offense. Brown was better, but still not great. Zeitler is really good and we now have two REALLY strong guards. That is a HUGE boost to our OL.
For a 39 yo QB that is GIGANTIC.
He is 38.
But the improvement was going from historically bad to just simply bad.
We need more than that on the line.
Vets will take less time, but even with vets the more time they have together the better they will perform. I think even if the Giants get a vet RT, the line will take some time to come together. Expect some bumps in the first 4 - 6 games.
I hope that's not what people take away from my post...
We need better talent for sure, both RT and C... But even after they arrive, expect some bumps. That was what I was intending as the take away.
Another thing: why does Hal Hunter still have a job? Why did he not get any of the blame for failing teach these idiots how to pick up a simple stunt?
And yes, Free Agents would assimilate faster than rookies would, i.e., look how long it took Hernandez..... almost half a season before the mistakes dwindled....
But is this a team that's going somewhere this year? No, so, get a RT from the draft.....let this OL grow together....it will be better the second half than the first....Rome was not built in a day....OL's are not built in a year....I know, I know, Minnesota did it in one year....how did they do the next year?
How Reese could f*ck up this process of creating an OL in front of Eli, is a question professors will be asking their students years from now.....but only if they are Giant fans....