Former GM Mike Lombardi said in an article at The Athletic that numerous people have reported to him that the Giants are not in love with any of the 2019 QBs.
will be interesting to see if Eli has a decent year and the team wins 7-8 games if we start hearing takes that the 2020 class really ain't all that after all and maybe we should wait another year (Trevor!).
Finish rebuilding the OL. Fix the defense. Draft a QB next year when there will be a lot to choose from and better choices than this year to boot.
This is ridiculous. A lot? One, you don't just take a QB to take a QB because one is available to you. You have to be ready to get married to that QB not just date them because they were next in line. Two, yes there are more QB next year. However, there are way more teams that need a QB next year. So, that makes it way more difficult to get a QB next year. The worst thing that'll happen next year is we are picking in the teens and we are too faf away to trade up for our guy.
Here are teams that could draft a QB next year imo
NYG
Was
NO
Car (Cam has taken a punishment over the years)
TB (Winston gets one more year to prove himself)
Detroit (rumors they could move on from Stafford)
LAR (Goff's contract is ending, not likely but possible)
Mia
NE
Jax (rumors they could take a QB this year regardless of Foles)
Ten
Cin
Pit (I know they have Rudolph but if the opportunity presents itself)
LAC
Den (haven't figured the QB position out yet)
Oak (Carr is on the hot seat)
So unless there are about 15 QBs that are great next year we cannot just say get one next year especially with us not going full rebuild.
But same old bullshit. Why is this shit getting out? That doesn't help us if this gets out. Arizona now has something over us to use in negotiations.
Haha, really? These reports can mean anything.
They could but how many years have we had info leak where Tennessee jumped over us to draft Conklin and Chicago traded over us because we wanted Floyd. There is never smoke with this team.
... are going to have a top-3 pick next year? I would say the top pick, but the Cardinals are going to be tough to out-lose. I’m very comfortable if the Giants pass on a QB this year because they will be in play yet again in the 2020 draft.
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... are going to have a top-3 pick next year? I would say the top pick, but the Cardinals are going to be tough to out-lose. I’m very comfortable if the Giants pass on a QB this year because they will be in play yet again in the 2020 draft.
You are not, might not be top 3 but I think it’s top 5.
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... are going to have a top-3 pick next year? I would say the top pick, but the Cardinals are going to be tough to out-lose. I’m very comfortable if the Giants pass on a QB this year because they will be in play yet again in the 2020 draft.
Miami unless they get a QB will be worse than the Giants.
This makes a lot more sense than the team being in love with a qb who has started 14 games in his life and a shrimp who would be the shortest guy drafted to play qb since the Truman administration.
... are going to have a top-3 pick next year? I would say the top pick, but the Cardinals are going to be tough to out-lose. I’m very comfortable if the Giants pass on a QB this year because they will be in play yet again in the 2020 draft.
With improved OL play will come some wins. Don't think we'll be the worst team in the league. That should be Miami. Arizona could be up there too. Not buying Oakland turning it around. Denver doesn't look like they'll turn it around. Then you have to factor in teams that suffer injuries and underperform. Cincinnati looks like they'll be bad next year. Not buying Detroit either.
I could see all of these QB's dropping.
With a bunch of teams trading back Into the first to scoop them up and the early 2nd.
I don't think Murray to Arizona is a sure thing as everyone thinks.
... are going to have a top-3 pick next year? I would say the top pick, but the Cardinals are going to be tough to out-lose. I’m very comfortable if the Giants pass on a QB this year because they will be in play yet again in the 2020 draft.
With improved OL play will come some wins. Don't think we'll be the worst team in the league. That should be Miami. Arizona could be up there too. Not buying Oakland turning it around. Denver doesn't look like they'll turn it around. Then you have to factor in teams that suffer injuries and underperform. Cincinnati looks like they'll be bad next year. Not buying Detroit either.
We can’t leave Buffalo out of the discussion. The OL should absolutely be better, but the WR corps is weak and the defense wasn’t any good last year.
The Dolphins appear to be taking one right out of the Marlins play book: Tanking it.
It’s not easy getting a top-3 pick, let alone the top pick. There is a lot of crappy competition out there, but the Giants are in the conversation.
we need to either trade back from 6 to the bengals and get there 2nd round picks next year. I would either also trade back out of 17 or 37 (either one) completely into next years draft.
We need to have 2 1's and 2 2's next year to give us the ability to move up to get the QB we want the most in 2020
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we need to either trade back from 6 to the bengals and get there 2nd round picks next year. I would either also trade back out of 17 or 37 (either one) completely into next years draft.
We need to have 2 1's and 2 2's next year to give us the ability to move up to get the QB we want the most in 2020
we need to either trade back from 6 to the bengals and get there 2nd round picks next year. I would either also trade back out of 17 or 37 (either one) completely into next years draft.
We need to have 2 1's and 2 2's next year to give us the ability to move up to get the QB we want the most in 2020
Rosen
ill pass unless we get him for a steal. They say we want a mobile QB. Rosen is that at all.
At the very least this lines up with what jtgiants posted Â
He still wouldn't get credit. The story lines would be that he got lucky (again). The defense carried the team. We played back-up QBs. Barkley is a beast and the only reason our offense is functional. Other teams were injured. Soft/weak schedule. Any reason other than giving Eli credit.
Finish rebuilding the OL. Fix the defense. Draft a QB next year when there will be a lot to choose from and better choices than this year to boot.
This is ridiculous. A lot? One, you don't just take a QB to take a QB because one is available to you. You have to be ready to get married to that QB not just date them because they were next in line. Two, yes there are more QB next year. However, there are way more teams that need a QB next year. So, that makes it way more difficult to get a QB next year. The worst thing that'll happen next year is we are picking in the teens and we are too faf away to trade up for our guy.
Here are teams that could draft a QB next year imo
NYG
Was
NO
Car (Cam has taken a punishment over the years)
TB (Winston gets one more year to prove himself)
Detroit (rumors they could move on from Stafford)
LAR (Goff's contract is ending, not likely but possible)
Mia
NE
Jax (rumors they could take a QB this year regardless of Foles)
Ten
Cin
Pit (I know they have Rudolph but if the opportunity presents itself)
LAC
Den (haven't figured the QB position out yet)
Oak (Carr is on the hot seat)
So unless there are about 15 QBs that are great next year we cannot just say get one next year especially with us not going full rebuild.
Spot on Robbie. It probably is true, and some people just go on and on that we can just get a QB next year with out any trouble. If you end up having to give up 3 1st rounders plus other picks it will be brutal.
Disinformation occurs but the Giants are terrible at it
Exactly. This is a free Giants websites where it seems at least 2 posters are aware of plenty before it happens and that doesn’t worry anyone? If the Giants like Fromm (for example) so much you don’t think other GMs know this already? Everyone appreciates JonC and Jt for relaying stuff and I have no interest in asking where they hear it from, but you don’t think it’s a problem that they hear it to begin with? They are posting it on the internet so it isn’t like some classified secret.
I think ownership is all aboard the Eli train this year. Rosen I could see cuz he is gonna sit behind Eli and come in in spots (like blowouts and such).
Finish rebuilding the OL. Fix the defense. Draft a QB next year when there will be a lot to choose from and better choices than this year to boot.
This is ridiculous. A lot? One, you don't just take a QB to take a QB because one is available to you. You have to be ready to get married to that QB not just date them because they were next in line. Two, yes there are more QB next year. However, there are way more teams that need a QB next year. So, that makes it way more difficult to get a QB next year. The worst thing that'll happen next year is we are picking in the teens and we are too faf away to trade up for our guy.
Here are teams that could draft a QB next year imo
NYG
Was
NO
Car (Cam has taken a punishment over the years)
TB (Winston gets one more year to prove himself)
Detroit (rumors they could move on from Stafford)
LAR (Goff's contract is ending, not likely but possible)
Mia
NE
Jax (rumors they could take a QB this year regardless of Foles)
Ten
Cin
Pit (I know they have Rudolph but if the opportunity presents itself)
LAC
Den (haven't figured the QB position out yet)
Oak (Carr is on the hot seat)
So unless there are about 15 QBs that are great next year we cannot just say get one next year especially with us not going full rebuild.
Spot on Robbie. It probably is true, and some people just go on and on that we can just get a QB next year with out any trouble. If you end up having to give up 3 1st rounders plus other picks it will be brutal.
Well, if all those teams are drafting before us, I’m going to be pretty flipping happy this season.
Unless I am mistaking Wilson will be 32 during the 2020 season. Is that a smart move? I also read that Wilson is 5’ 11 and 205 when he was drafted. I could be wrong in the weight, nonetheless, I hear Murray called all kinds of stuff but it doesn’t seem to be that much of a difference between him and Wilson.
Haha, really? These reports can mean anything.
This is ridiculous. A lot? One, you don't just take a QB to take a QB because one is available to you. You have to be ready to get married to that QB not just date them because they were next in line. Two, yes there are more QB next year. However, there are way more teams that need a QB next year. So, that makes it way more difficult to get a QB next year. The worst thing that'll happen next year is we are picking in the teens and we are too faf away to trade up for our guy.
Here are teams that could draft a QB next year imo
NYG
Was
NO
Car (Cam has taken a punishment over the years)
TB (Winston gets one more year to prove himself)
Detroit (rumors they could move on from Stafford)
LAR (Goff's contract is ending, not likely but possible)
Mia
NE
Jax (rumors they could take a QB this year regardless of Foles)
Ten
Cin
Pit (I know they have Rudolph but if the opportunity presents itself)
LAC
Den (haven't figured the QB position out yet)
Oak (Carr is on the hot seat)
So unless there are about 15 QBs that are great next year we cannot just say get one next year especially with us not going full rebuild.
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But same old bullshit. Why is this shit getting out? That doesn't help us if this gets out. Arizona now has something over us to use in negotiations.
Haha, really? These reports can mean anything.
They could but how many years have we had info leak where Tennessee jumped over us to draft Conklin and Chicago traded over us because we wanted Floyd. There is never smoke with this team.
Probably.
You are not, might not be top 3 but I think it’s top 5.
Miami unless they get a QB will be worse than the Giants.
With improved OL play will come some wins. Don't think we'll be the worst team in the league. That should be Miami. Arizona could be up there too. Not buying Oakland turning it around. Denver doesn't look like they'll turn it around. Then you have to factor in teams that suffer injuries and underperform. Cincinnati looks like they'll be bad next year. Not buying Detroit either.
With a bunch of teams trading back Into the first to scoop them up and the early 2nd.
I don't think Murray to Arizona is a sure thing as everyone thinks.
Well if you combine this with the report that giants want a mobile qb, then AZ is shit out of luck re rosen
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... are going to have a top-3 pick next year? I would say the top pick, but the Cardinals are going to be tough to out-lose. I’m very comfortable if the Giants pass on a QB this year because they will be in play yet again in the 2020 draft.
With improved OL play will come some wins. Don't think we'll be the worst team in the league. That should be Miami. Arizona could be up there too. Not buying Oakland turning it around. Denver doesn't look like they'll turn it around. Then you have to factor in teams that suffer injuries and underperform. Cincinnati looks like they'll be bad next year. Not buying Detroit either.
We can’t leave Buffalo out of the discussion. The OL should absolutely be better, but the WR corps is weak and the defense wasn’t any good last year.
The Dolphins appear to be taking one right out of the Marlins play book: Tanking it.
It’s not easy getting a top-3 pick, let alone the top pick. There is a lot of crappy competition out there, but the Giants are in the conversation.
We need to have 2 1's and 2 2's next year to give us the ability to move up to get the QB we want the most in 2020
What would happen if you won the Power Ball?
It was about this time last year when we started reading reports that the Giants were not going to select a QB.
I wanted a QB (Rosen was my first choice) and I kept holding out hope that it was disinformation. Turns out all the reports were right.
I would love to see this happen, guy gets shit on constantly.
We need to have 2 1's and 2 2's next year to give us the ability to move up to get the QB we want the most in 2020
Rosen
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we need to either trade back from 6 to the bengals and get there 2nd round picks next year. I would either also trade back out of 17 or 37 (either one) completely into next years draft.
We need to have 2 1's and 2 2's next year to give us the ability to move up to get the QB we want the most in 2020
Rosen
ill pass unless we get him for a steal. They say we want a mobile QB. Rosen is that at all.
He still wouldn't get credit. The story lines would be that he got lucky (again). The defense carried the team. We played back-up QBs. Barkley is a beast and the only reason our offense is functional. Other teams were injured. Soft/weak schedule. Any reason other than giving Eli credit.
Trade that 17th pick down for more picks. And if we can grab another second, parlay that into Ryan Finley.
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Finish rebuilding the OL. Fix the defense. Draft a QB next year when there will be a lot to choose from and better choices than this year to boot.
This is ridiculous. A lot? One, you don't just take a QB to take a QB because one is available to you. You have to be ready to get married to that QB not just date them because they were next in line. Two, yes there are more QB next year. However, there are way more teams that need a QB next year. So, that makes it way more difficult to get a QB next year. The worst thing that'll happen next year is we are picking in the teens and we are too faf away to trade up for our guy.
Here are teams that could draft a QB next year imo
NYG
Was
NO
Car (Cam has taken a punishment over the years)
TB (Winston gets one more year to prove himself)
Detroit (rumors they could move on from Stafford)
LAR (Goff's contract is ending, not likely but possible)
Mia
NE
Jax (rumors they could take a QB this year regardless of Foles)
Ten
Cin
Pit (I know they have Rudolph but if the opportunity presents itself)
LAC
Den (haven't figured the QB position out yet)
Oak (Carr is on the hot seat)
So unless there are about 15 QBs that are great next year we cannot just say get one next year especially with us not going full rebuild.
Spot on Robbie. It probably is true, and some people just go on and on that we can just get a QB next year with out any trouble. If you end up having to give up 3 1st rounders plus other picks it will be brutal.
I vote the leakiest. :)
These guys are no where near the QBs from last year.
Disinformation occurs but the Giants are terrible at it
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But it's either the most obvious smokescreen on the planet or the Giants continue to have the leakiest ship in the NFL.
I vote the leakiest. :)
That's where the smart money is if we're using history as an indicator.
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But it's either the most obvious smokescreen on the planet or the Giants continue to have the leakiest ship in the NFL.
I vote the leakiest. :)
That's where the smart money is if we're using history as an indicator.
Did you see the OBJ trade coming?
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Disinformation occurs but the Giants are terrible at it
Exactly. This is a free Giants websites where it seems at least 2 posters are aware of plenty before it happens and that doesn’t worry anyone? If the Giants like Fromm (for example) so much you don’t think other GMs know this already? Everyone appreciates JonC and Jt for relaying stuff and I have no interest in asking where they hear it from, but you don’t think it’s a problem that they hear it to begin with? They are posting it on the internet so it isn’t like some classified secret.
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But it's either the most obvious smokescreen on the planet or the Giants continue to have the leakiest ship in the NFL.
I vote the leakiest. :)
That's where the smart money is if we're using history as an indicator.
Did you see the OBJ trade coming?
I knew it was a possibility but the fact that they pulled the trigger on that comp did. Not sure what your point is. The information was out.
I think ownership is all aboard the Eli train this year. Rosen I could see cuz he is gonna sit behind Eli and come in in spots (like blowouts and such).
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Finish rebuilding the OL. Fix the defense. Draft a QB next year when there will be a lot to choose from and better choices than this year to boot.
This is ridiculous. A lot? One, you don't just take a QB to take a QB because one is available to you. You have to be ready to get married to that QB not just date them because they were next in line. Two, yes there are more QB next year. However, there are way more teams that need a QB next year. So, that makes it way more difficult to get a QB next year. The worst thing that'll happen next year is we are picking in the teens and we are too faf away to trade up for our guy.
Here are teams that could draft a QB next year imo
NYG
Was
NO
Car (Cam has taken a punishment over the years)
TB (Winston gets one more year to prove himself)
Detroit (rumors they could move on from Stafford)
LAR (Goff's contract is ending, not likely but possible)
Mia
NE
Jax (rumors they could take a QB this year regardless of Foles)
Ten
Cin
Pit (I know they have Rudolph but if the opportunity presents itself)
LAC
Den (haven't figured the QB position out yet)
Oak (Carr is on the hot seat)
So unless there are about 15 QBs that are great next year we cannot just say get one next year especially with us not going full rebuild.
Spot on Robbie. It probably is true, and some people just go on and on that we can just get a QB next year with out any trouble. If you end up having to give up 3 1st rounders plus other picks it will be brutal.
Well, if all those teams are drafting before us, I’m going to be pretty flipping happy this season.
Unless I am mistaking Wilson will be 32 during the 2020 season. Is that a smart move? I also read that Wilson is 5’ 11 and 205 when he was drafted. I could be wrong in the weight, nonetheless, I hear Murray called all kinds of stuff but it doesn’t seem to be that much of a difference between him and Wilson.