TJ Hockenson at 17

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Unfortunately, I don't think there's a chance he'll be available at the 17th pick. Maybe if several teams want a QB and there's a huge run on defensive players, he falls through the crack. I doubt it though

I'd rather have Rosen, a RT or a LB. We spent a #1 on a TE 2 years ago. We'll just have to live with that for now

an Edge Rusher at #6, then package a couple picks with our #17 and move up a couple spots and grab a 6'3 WR.

as long as they find a mid-round quarterback that they can stash on the bench and cut two years later.

...I'm with you!!!

I would love this guy at 17. Also, assuming then an Edge guy at 6!

In comment 14342538 VinegarPeppers said:

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an Edge Rusher at #6, then package a couple picks with our #17 and move up a couple spots and grab a 6'3 WR.

6 and 3 will already be gone at this point, and no one has a WR that high

That just doesn’t do it for me. I know what the Pats did with Gronski and psycho killer, but this team needs defense and a RT.

If you want to add to the downfield receiving game after losing OBJ....

Hakeem Butler.

Highest upside in the entire draft class with his size/speed combination and he's not just an athlete playing football he is a football player who is a tremendous athlete with freakish size.

Many like to throw around the Plaxico comparison, while it has some validity, Plaxico had more of a Kevin Knox build while this guy is more a Lebron James build.


Here is Boylehart on him:

Hakeem shows me on film a burning desire to dominate. You can see it in his play on the field, in way he blocks and the way he goes after the ball in the air. He is raw and his route running is inconsistent and lacks polish. He reminds me a lot of Terrell Owens when he came out and I believe, after some adjusting to the next level that Hakeem will become a franchise receiver like Terrell was but without the ON FIELD baggage that seem to follow Owens around from team to team. Out of all these receivers in this draft Hakeem has the biggest upside and that’s saying a lot because there are some very good, big, strong and fast one’s as we all have seen in the combine workouts. If Hakeem keeps his head on straight and doesn’t get it stuck up his buttocks and works hard, he will be the best and become a franchise receiver for the team that selects him. I’m betting he will.
Boylehart on Hakeem - ( New Window )

without knowing about his feet

In comment 14342578 Bill in UT said:

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without knowing about his feet

How's this for footwork....
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In comment 14342550 Boy Cord said:

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That just doesn’t do it for me. I know what the Pats did with Gronski and psycho killer, but this team needs defense and a RT.

Gronk was a 2nd round pick and Hernandez a 4th (in the same draft), but they really used Hernandez like a WR, not just like the Giants do with Engram, but he literally lined up at TE rarely.

and no I do not want the Giants to draft a TE at 17.


Who is the last 1st round TE who proved to be worth a 1st round pick?

Greg Olsen (31) in 2007?

ugh

In comment 14342531 mavric said:

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Unfortunately, I don't think there's a chance he'll be available at the 17th pick. Maybe if several teams want a QB and there's a huge run on defensive players, he falls through the crack. I doubt it though

Without saying whether we should take Hockenson or not, looking at the various mocks he's predicted to go anywhere from #12 to #30, so I don't think it's clear there's no chance he'll be available at #17.

is our QB needs an OL that will give him time to throw. If we sign a FA RT that will open our options for #17

From there you can do things like play action and what not. I know he isn't a hog molly, but a two way tight end like him is pseudo building the lines. I was really just framing it to see if anyone else thinks he fits into DG's vision?

to play out. I don't think I remember a draft where the first 20 picks are all over the place a month out from the draft.

In comment 14342610 Zeke's Alibi said:

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From there you can do things like play action and what not. I know he isn't a hog molly, but a two way tight end like him is pseudo building the lines. I was really just framing it to see if anyone else thinks he fits into DG's vision?

Take your thinking of DG's vision and philosophy of roster contstruction and Hockenson makes sense (so does Cody Ford at #17). But to interpret DG's vision/philosophy, you have to question how Evan "Not Ramczyk" Engram fits? With EE having the stain of Reese, I don't see him being long on the Giants. Maybe we can package EE with our 2nd and move back into the 1st to pick up Ford or Hockenson depending on which one falls further past our #17.

In comment 14342613 Zeke's Alibi said:

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to play out. I don't think I remember a draft where the first 20 picks are all over the place a month out from the draft.

Ha, ha...reminds me of a contest I was in. Whoever had the most guesses in the first round of an NFL draft would win. I won with 6 correct answers....and that was after investing 2 months of my life reading every mock, every analysis, and every piece of information I could get my hands on. Most people in the contest got less than 4 right.

What always surprises me, is who the Giants end up picking. I haven't been right about that since Eli was drafted and the Giants had to give up a king's ransom and trade for him because they didn't even draft him. After San Diego took Eli, I was screaming for Robert Gallery. Then after Gallery, I was screaming for Sean Taylor. About threw up when they drafted Philip Rivers...and if they insisted on a QB, then I wanted Roethlisberger. Of course, there was a plan and I didn't know what it was. It all worked out.

Bottom line: nobody knows how this draft will go. Only thing I would guarantee is that Bosa, Allen, and Q.Williams will most likely go in the top 5.

We have a chance to fix the OL....fix it....

I have mentioned on several threads that T J fit the profile a blocker for Barkley and a receiver for Eli.

Gone at 7 or 8 if we don’t take him at 6

If he lasts to 17 you can take him, or if goes earlier then it increases the odds of an top-10 guy possibly being available.