Cap Question after Beckham/Vernon trade

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Dead money is money that has already been paid to the player

robbieballs2003 : 3/17/2019 10:31 am : link

But has not been recorded yet on the books until the trade or release occurs. As far as counting for this year or next year, it should all be counted for this year. There used to be a rule, I think, where you can designate one player as a post June 1 cut prior to June 1st and split their cap number over 2 years. I dont think that happened with either player. I think we absorbed it all this year so we start fresh next year.

The remaining balance of their

Beer Man : 3/17/2019 10:33 am : link

Signing bonus accelerate to current NFL season. After that, they are off the books. The Browns are now responsible for their salaries; which includes any guaranteed amount.

RE: Dead money is money that has already been paid to the player

Beer Man : 3/17/2019 10:34 am : link

In comment 14343145 robbieballs2003 said:

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But has not been recorded yet on the books until the trade or release occurs. As far as counting for this year or next year, it should all be counted for this year. There used to be a rule, I think, where you can designate one player as a post June 1 cut prior to June 1st and split their cap number over 2 years. I dont think that happened with either player. I think we absorbed it all this year so we start fresh next year.

Since neither was cut, I don't think the June 1st rule would apply.

We have 33M in dead money,

Doomster : 3/17/2019 10:38 am : link

this year....

We are getting better...DG had 44M last year....but it may not all be over yet.....

RE: We have 33M in dead money,

Beer Man : 3/17/2019 10:48 am : link

In comment 14343162 Doomster said:

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this year....

We are getting better...DG had 44M last year....but it may not all be over yet.....

Hopefully he is done with the blood letting for this year. Cap wise, the team is in great shape for next year, at over $103M; which will probably drop a bit when they sign the 12 draft picks (or whatever the final number is).

RE: Dead money is money that has already been paid to the player

SJGiant : 3/17/2019 10:57 am : link

In comment 14343145 robbieballs2003 said:

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But has not been recorded yet on the books until the trade or release occurs. As far as counting for this year or next year, it should all be counted for this year. There used to be a rule, I think, where you can designate one player as a post June 1 cut prior to June 1st and split their cap number over 2 years. I dont think that happened with either player. I think we absorbed it all this year so we start fresh next year.

You can designate up to two players per year post June 1 cut. As far as salary spreading, it�s a little more complicated.
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RE: RE: We have 33M in dead money,

christian : 3/17/2019 11:33 am : link

In comment 14343187 Beer Man said:

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In comment 14343162 Doomster said:

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this year....

We are getting better...DG had 44M last year....but it may not all be over yet.....

Hopefully he is done with the blood letting for this year. Cap wise, the team is in great shape for next year, at over $103M; which will probably drop a bit when they sign the 12 draft picks (or whatever the final number is).

From what I've read the Giants have ~15M in 2019 cap space and ~14M required for their draft pool, and then about 77M space in 2020.

Not to say they are in bad shape, they are in good shape -- but I think they have about 25% less than that 103M number.

RE: RE: RE: We have 33M in dead money,

Beer Man : 3/17/2019 2:04 pm : link

In comment 14343258 christian said:

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In comment 14343187 Beer Man said:

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In comment 14343162 Doomster said:

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this year....

We are getting better...DG had 44M last year....but it may not all be over yet.....

Hopefully he is done with the blood letting for this year. Cap wise, the team is in great shape for next year, at over $103M; which will probably drop a bit when they sign the 12 draft picks (or whatever the final number is).

From what I've read the Giants have ~15M in 2019 cap space and ~14M required for their draft pool, and then about 77M space in 2020.

Not to say they are in bad shape, they are in good shape -- but I think they have about 25% less than that 103M number.

I was going by Over-the-Cap, which earlier in the week had the 2020 Cap at $103-104M. Today (due to the signings this week) that number has dropped to $85.9M.

I prefer spotrac to overthecap

USAF NYG Fan : 3/17/2019 3:36 pm : link

Breaks down the players better. They show over $14 million needed to sign all the draft picks this year. Current cap space is short but I don't know how that will equate with the top 51. Can't seem them doing much before the draft at this point.

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