Ben Allbright gives a hint as to what the Giants might do

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What the hell does that mean!?

So cryptic....

liking Jones for a while.

If so, buckle up kiddies.

In comment 14343830 GoDeep13 said:

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What the hell does that mean!? So cryptic....

It means Montez Sweat at 6 and Jones at 17

Of Daniel Jones at 17

Don’t want him in 2nd round...Don’t want him at all!

Daniel Jones = Dave Brown, not at 6, not at 17, not even Rd 2

And sweat?? Not 1 and 2 please.

In comment 14343834 ColHowPepper said:

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Daniel Jones = Dave Brown, not at 6, not at 17, not even Rd 2

Agreed.

Related to Madeline?

after the Dave Brown years. My God did we waste some good defenses during his run of shit.

In comment 14343837 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Related to Madeline?

Lol, he also commented on several key foreign policy decisions in a later tweet.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha

but I thought after drafting a Penn State RB that was actually good, we’d stop falling into the trap of “no cuz he went to this school”

....with my head.

Oliver guesses are out in da Bush.

Allen for da White choice

One could do this all day.

In comment 14343844 The_Boss said:

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....with my head.

Good. Thank you..

😜😜😜

and it may not improve enough with better coaching. Just like the Giants thought they could improve on Flowers weaknesses. This guy concerns me bigtime. I would take any of Lock, Murray or Haskins over Jones.

...a spew of bullshit 24/7.

Because of their common connections the Giants likely know a lot about Jones. Remember he played on a pretty lousy team. He has all the NFL measurables. Plus Sweat is a monster in an area of need.

He's not really plugged into the Giants though. At this point last year he told me we were going to draft Josh Rosen.

In comment 14343834 ColHowPepper said:

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Daniel Jones = Dave Brown, not at 6, not at 17, not even Rd 2

why is it when posters say Jones is Dave Brown its ok but if someone says Haskins is similar to Byron Leftwich everyone gets offended?

Especially at 17. The defensive group is so deep and talented there is no way Jones should grade out ahead of many of them. What a reach that would be....

And why do we give two shits what he has to say?

not Jones at seventeen
Not six or twelve, however we lean.
A tackle or guard, or center between,
We want a lineman, nasty and mean.
But never, not Jones at seventeen

In comment 14343871 Photoguy said:

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not Jones at seventeen Not six or twelve, however we lean. A tackle or guard, or center between, We want a lineman, nasty and mean. But never, not Jones at seventeen

Impressive

Not a Jones guy... and not even really a Lock guy. But, the only QB outside of Haskins/Murray I'll be on board with is probably Lock since I can at least point to a guy with some really good tools and hope that Shurmur can develop him.

Taking Jones @ 17 would annoy me. He just seems really limited. I can see him being serviceable but that's not what I want. Not in the 1st round. It would be a crappy pick.

Doesn’t have any inside sources here.

Just trying to draw strings and connect dots to Giants needs and guys that might fit Giants.

He tweeted out "It's Darnold," at #1 last year even when it became obvious it was Baker. He argued about it, then deleted the tweets when he was wrong. Loves to block dissenting opinions. Portrays that he's an insider when he has no clue what's actually going to happen.

Sweat and Jones would be an all-time terrible draft.

In comment 14343838 eric2425ny said:

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after the Dave Brown years. My God did we waste some good defenses during his run of shit.

You do realize that was like 27 years ago? Imagine deciding that Penn State RBs are all busts so avoid Barkley at all costs.

In comment 14343881 oreojenkins said:

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He tweeted out "It's Darnold," at #1 last year even when it became obvious it was Baker. He argued about it, then deleted the tweets when he was wrong. Loves to block dissenting opinions. Portrays that he's an insider when he has no clue what's actually going to happen. Sweat and Jones would be an all-time terrible draft.

Why do you hate Sweat?

and offensive line and receiving corps like those two schools. Would his passing numbers be as good as Murray's and Haskins?

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March 13th 2018 According to @AllbrightNFL he hears the #Giants are "eyeing their options" at No. 2 overall, and that Josh Rosen & Quenton Nelson are among those in play. March 22nd 2018 1. Browns - Darnold 2. Giants - Chubb 3. Jets - Allen 4. Browns - Trade back w/ Buffalo who takes Rosen 5. Broncos - Nelson or Mayfield March 25th 2018 1. Browns - Darnold 2. Giants - Rosen/Chubb 3. Jets - Allen/Rosen/Mayfield 4. Browns - Chubb/trade back with Bills who takes Rosen/Allen 5. Mayfield/Nelson/Roquan Smith April 10th 2018 If I'm guessing today... 1. Browns - Still Darnold 2. Giants - Chubb 3. Jets - Mayfield 4. Trade up by Buff or AZ for QB 5. Broncos - Nelson April 11th 2018 According to @AllbrightNFL he's hearing the #Giants will pick either a QB or North Carolina St. DE Bradley Chubb at No. 2 overall. April 23rd 2018 Since we've all been having fun with these the last two weeks... If I had to guess tonight... 1. Browns - Baker Mayfield 2. Giants - Sam Darnold 3. Jets - Josh Allen 4. Browns - Bradley Chubb 5. Bills - trade up with Broncos, Josh Rosen

So essentially the 45 days leading up to the draft he had the Giants taking Rosen, Darnold, Chubb & Nelson. Not many mentions of Barkley. So I'd take his word with a grain of salt when it comes to the Giants.

In comment 14343883 Deejboy said:

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In comment 14343838 eric2425ny said: Quote: after the Dave Brown years. My God did we waste some good defenses during his run of shit. You do realize that was like 27 years ago? Imagine deciding that Penn State RBs are all busts so avoid Barkley at all costs.

Duke is not a football school. Could the guy end up being good, maybe. With all of the busts we have had in recent years, let’s take someone a little less risky.

In comment 14343842 Brown Recluse said:

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but I thought after drafting a Penn State RB that was actually good, we’d stop falling into the trap of “no cuz he went to this school”

You do know who our owners are don't you? God only knows what's gonna happen after Accorsi leaves this Earth. I know, they'll tap a long retired DG as consultant.

In comment 14343887 Ira said:

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and offensive line and receiving corps like those two schools. Would his passing numbers be as good as Murray's and Haskins?

It's not only about his team. He was bad during Senior Bowl practices and had a bad combine also.

They discovered a heart condition that will impact where he’ll be drafted

and everything to do with Sutcliffe. just like Clint Sintim had everything to do with Al Groh. The Giants love what makes them comfortable.

In comment 14343895 Big Rick in FL said:

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In comment 14343887 Ira said: Quote: and offensive line and receiving corps like those two schools. Would his passing numbers be as good as Murray's and Haskins? It's not only about his team. He was bad during Senior Bowl practices and had a bad combine also.

even his behavior or interview temperament was off, from what I hear.

In comment 14343877 arcarsenal said:

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Not a Jones guy... and not even really a Lock guy. But, the only QB outside of Haskins/Murray I'll be on board with is probably Lock since I can at least point to a guy with some really good tools and hope that Shurmur can develop him. Taking Jones @ 17 would annoy me. He just seems really limited. I can see him being serviceable but that's not what I want. Not in the 1st round. It would be a crappy pick.

Exactly. Im pretty much of the same opinion on the QBs.

Hoping Albright is not too bright here (at least regarding Jones).

In comment 14343897 tyrik13 said:

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They discovered a heart condition that will impact where he’ll be drafted

I wouldn't be surprised.

another twitter guy “in the know” who gets 1 out of every 50 things he says right.

In comment 14343842 Brown Recluse said:

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but I thought after drafting a Penn State RB that was actually good, we’d stop falling into the trap of “no cuz he went to this school”

Yea I give two shits were he went to school. I’m out based on what seems to be the reasoning why they like him.

In comment 14343939 ryanmkeane said:

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another twitter guy “in the know” who gets 1 out of every 50 things he says right.

I disagree with this. Allbright is normally pretty good when it comes to free agents and what teams are going to do in that regard. The draft is a completely different animal and it's almost impossible for anybody to predict.

He's plugged in to quite a few times. The Giants are not one of them.

In comment 14343877 arcarsenal said:

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Not a Jones guy... and not even really a Lock guy. But, the only QB outside of Haskins/Murray I'll be on board with is probably Lock since I can at least point to a guy with some really good tools and hope that Shurmur can develop him. Taking Jones @ 17 would annoy me. He just seems really limited. I can see him being serviceable but that's not what I want. Not in the 1st round. It would be a crappy pick.

I've started to come around on Jones. Of the realistic options he's got the best ability to be multi-dimensional and make something happen with his legs, obviously other than Murray. He ran for more yards each year of his career at Duke than Russell Wilson's best college season (their statistical profiles are similar across the board actually). He doesn't have "wow" arm talent, but I think he's got enough. He's got good size and he really knows how to stand in there and take a hit and deliver an accurate ball downfield. Watch the beating he took on the road against miami in a monsoon as his receivers dropped pass after pass. Half of that D is projected to get picked in the top 100 this year and the other half next year - and he led his team to basically ending their season.

That's all aside from the Cutcliffe factor + the way he processes things. In that regard I have no idea if he's an ideal fit for Shurmur - but i'd guess the giants org likes that pedigree. And Shurmur has talked at great length about the importance of mobility.

In comment 14343871 Photoguy said:

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not Jones at seventeen Not six or twelve, however we lean. A tackle or guard, or center between, We want a lineman, nasty and mean. But never, not Jones at seventeen

I'll give it a go:

I do not want Jones, not at six
I'd rather have different picks
I do not want Jones at seventeen
Not in round one, and this I mean
I do not want Jones at 37
No chance I'd take him, no chance in heaven
I do not want Jones anywhere
If we pick him, I just might swear.

In comment 14344010 Eli Wilson said:

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In comment 14343871 Photoguy said: Quote: not Jones at seventeen Not six or twelve, however we lean. A tackle or guard, or center between, We want a lineman, nasty and mean. But never, not Jones at seventeen I'll give it a go: I do not want Jones, not at six I'd rather have different picks I do not want Jones at seventeen Not in round one, and this I mean I do not want Jones at 37 No chance I'd take him, no chance in heaven I do not want Jones anywhere If we pick him, I just might swear.

Please stop. This is like adolescent Dr. Seuss

Is thinking that's clever

Same guy who said Saquon was the next McFadden. Who cares what he thinks

In comment 14344068 Bill in UT said:

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In comment 14344010 Eli Wilson said: Quote: In comment 14343871 Photoguy said: Quote: not Jones at seventeen Not six or twelve, however we lean. A tackle or guard, or center between, We want a lineman, nasty and mean. But never, not Jones at seventeen I'll give it a go: I do not want Jones, not at six I'd rather have different picks I do not want Jones at seventeen Not in round one, and this I mean I do not want Jones at 37 No chance I'd take him, no chance in heaven I do not want Jones anywhere If we pick him, I just might swear. Please stop. This is like adolescent Dr. Seuss

That was the point.

We passed on the qb class last year, but don’t regret the Barkley pick.
Even though watching Eli play the last few years, makes some of us sick apparently Haskins is too slow, and Murray is too short
Cause if your not big and fast, you’ll have trouble in this sport
Looks like Jones is the pick, well according to Bens tweet.
he doesn’t have a great arm, or even the best feet.
Which is prob why it will happen, with they way we’ve been going why not
The guys making these decisions, must be smoking a shit ton of pot.
But if we push the decision and wait till next year
Our options aren’t as limited, the decision would be clear.
But If the Giants are waiting for the next Peyton or Luck
Say goodbye to ever winning again, cause we’ll continue to suck.

and grab Drew Lock.