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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/18/2019 5:32 pm
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Is there anything that Greg likes?  
Brown Recluse : 3/19/2019 9:59 am : link
Anyone?

I feel like we need a thread on this. I vaguely remember one started by Ronnie years ago. It might be time for another.
He should be solid? Based on what, exactly?  
Greg from LI : 3/19/2019 10:00 am : link
What you're doing is simply assuming that any bad lineman would be better over the course of the season. There's absolutely no logic behind it. Hernandez was a fairly highly touted rookie and second round pick. Halapio is a waiver-wire scrub who's bounced around the league and played very little before the Giants picked him up.

Why would anyone give this staff the benefit of the doubt when they did such a poor job last year?
I know, I'm such a weirdo for not finding much to like  
Greg from LI : 3/19/2019 10:01 am : link
about a putrid organization that has done nothing but fail miserably for the better part of a decade now.
Halapio  
Harvest Blend : 3/19/2019 10:08 am : link
is scheduled to make $645K this year (0.33% of cap) with zero dead money if he doesn't make the team. And it's March 19th.

But hey, get your panties in a bunch if it suits you.

I'm more and more convinced that people wake up everyday looking to be miserable and take anyone down with them that they can.
RE: He should be solid? Based on what, exactly?  
Brown Recluse : 3/19/2019 10:09 am : link
In comment 14346997 Greg from LI said:
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What you're doing is simply assuming that any bad lineman would be better over the course of the season. There's absolutely no logic behind it. Hernandez was a fairly highly touted rookie and second round pick. Halapio is a waiver-wire scrub who's bounced around the league and played very little before the Giants picked him up.

Why would anyone give this staff the benefit of the doubt when they did such a poor job last year?


Please explain exactly what they did *such a poor job* with last year? Are you really going to define all of their work on a few shit signings like Stewart and Omameh? Thats hardly fair. They got more right than they did wrong last year. And this offseason has been MUCH better than the last one.
Do you think Pat Shurmur did a good job last year? Yes or no.  
Greg from LI : 3/19/2019 10:10 am : link
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RE: I know, I'm such a weirdo for not finding much to like  
Big Blue '56 : 3/19/2019 10:16 am : link
In comment 14347000 Greg from LI said:
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about a putrid organization that has done nothing but fail miserably for the better part of a decade now.


Except, I’m willing to bet the farm that you’re not much different on baseball threads or other sports’ threads
RE: Do you think Pat Shurmur did a good job last year? Yes or no.  
Brown Recluse : 3/19/2019 10:16 am : link
In comment 14347024 Greg from LI said:
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I think Pat Shurmur did some good things and some things I wasn't crazy about. His game management was shit at times. There were questionable play calls and then there were play calls that I really liked. I'd like to see what he can do with his own QB and a stable line.

This isn't about Pat Shurmur though. It's the offseason, and its about the general manager and personnel decisions.
RE: RE: I know, I'm such a weirdo for not finding much to like  
Greg from LI : 3/19/2019 10:30 am : link
In comment 14347042 Big Blue '56 said:
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Except, I’m willing to bet the farm that you’re not much different on baseball threads or other sports’ threads


Hope you have somewhere nice to stay when I take your farm, then. The Yankees are a well run organization, although I wasn't crazy about their offseason choices. I'm not negative at all about them. Same with Virginia basketball. The Knicks are even more of a horror show than the Giants and the Rangers are heading into that territory, so yes, since it's warranted I'm pretty negative on them too.

I'm optimistic when I have reasons to be optimistic.
RE: Halapio  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/19/2019 10:49 am : link
In comment 14347016 Harvest Blend said:
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is scheduled to make $645K this year (0.33% of cap) with zero dead money if he doesn't make the team. And it's March 19th.

But hey, get your panties in a bunch if it suits you.

I'm more and more convinced that people wake up everyday looking to be miserable and take anyone down with them that they can.


It's not about the money he's making. It's about their stated objective of rebuilding the offensive line and whether Halapio is actually good or not. There don't seem to be options behind him with any track record. They haven't met with any centers in free agency either. ANd they could draft one, but then you'd be relying on a rookie.
RE: RE: Halapio  
Harvest Blend : 3/19/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14347159 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14347016 Harvest Blend said:


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is scheduled to make $645K this year (0.33% of cap) with zero dead money if he doesn't make the team. And it's March 19th.

But hey, get your panties in a bunch if it suits you.

I'm more and more convinced that people wake up everyday looking to be miserable and take anyone down with them that they can.



It's not about the money he's making. It's about their stated objective of rebuilding the offensive line and whether Halapio is actually good or not. There don't seem to be options behind him with any track record. They haven't met with any centers in free agency either. ANd they could draft one, but then you'd be relying on a rookie.


It's March 19.
RE: RE: RE: Halapio  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/19/2019 11:06 am : link
In comment 14347166 Harvest Blend said:
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In comment 14347159 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 14347016 Harvest Blend said:


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is scheduled to make $645K this year (0.33% of cap) with zero dead money if he doesn't make the team. And it's March 19th.

But hey, get your panties in a bunch if it suits you.

I'm more and more convinced that people wake up everyday looking to be miserable and take anyone down with them that they can.



It's not about the money he's making. It's about their stated objective of rebuilding the offensive line and whether Halapio is actually good or not. There don't seem to be options behind him with any track record. They haven't met with any centers in free agency either. ANd they could draft one, but then you'd be relying on a rookie.



It's March 19.


You can only offer a reaction to what's in front of you. And they continue to say they like Halapio a great deal.

Of course things could change. And when or if they do, and we have that info to go by, opinions will change.
we go on and on  
mdc1 : 3/19/2019 11:43 am : link
about all this stuff, but many fall to recognize that we are sitting at the bottom of the NFC East and not very competitive at a basic level with last seasons team. Time for a big rebuild and hopefully with hungry players that will establish a culture of winning.
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