I never saw him play. I did see his highlights and read a scouting report or 2. Is he improving each year? Can he be compared to Eli when just coming out?
He looks pretty good to me but I'd like to get the scoop from others. What is there not to like about him?
The reason I mentioned pick #17 is because if the Giants really like him, I don't think they'd just hope he drops so far...
Walterfootball: Daniel Jones Scouting Report - (
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Can you be specific?
I feel the same. I wasn't pissed off that we took Barkley because I know they know more about QBs than I do.
Wish some CFB guys would weigh in.
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at all at any draft spot....
Can you be specific?
Yes, I do not want him to be drafted by the Giants with any draft pick.
Prefer Lock....
Those same people would have passed on Saquon because of Ki-Jana Carter. 🙄
He screams "average QB" to me.
I haven't seen enough of him to go crazy one way or another, but that's been my general impression based on what I've seen.
It seems like he does a lot of things well enough... but he's not really "great" anywhere and never really seems to pop off the screen or make plays you really notice.
I kind of feel like they should have an AT&T commercial for Jones... "Just OK is not OK"
If someone can sell me on the guy, I'm all ears... but so far I've struggled to get much further than lukewarm.
He screams "average QB" to me.
I haven't seen enough of him to go crazy one way or another, but that's been my general impression based on what I've seen.
It seems like he does a lot of things well enough... but he's not really "great" anywhere and never really seems to pop off the screen or make plays you really notice.
I kind of feel like they should have an AT&T commercial for Jones... "Just OK is not OK"
If someone can sell me on the guy, I'm all ears... but so far I've struggled to get much further than lukewarm.
He'd be a decent get in the 4th round, IMO. EVEN at 95. But not 37.. There will be studs on the board at 37 still.
I'm talking about a three-down player who can contribute for the next 10 years.
Should the Jints be so fortunate to take an ER like Gary or Allen or Sweat at #6 then we could be looking at someone like ILB Devin Bush or perhaps CB Deandre Baker or OT Cody Ford
So if you are thinking qb at #17 consider the opportunity loss in your calculations
outside the box prediction i like it (not necessarily the pick but the creativeness)
No, you don't. His scouting report I linked makes it seem like he's pretty good.
Don't waste another pick on a QB.
Use that pick on somebody who can help build the team around the next QB, like an OT or a defensive player. Or even another WR.
Then make the next QB pick NEXT spring when there will almost certainly be more and to put a point on it, BETTER candidates available.
I second this emotion.
It’s Dave Brown, for all of us that remember those seasons. We were lucky to throw for more than 150 yards a game with him. This Jones guy could be good, but there is definitely a fear of Duke QB’s from a Giants fan perspective.
The first thing that jumped out to me was his feet. They're pretty good. He slides around and steps up into the pocket fairly well. He's not as good a thrower as Haskins is, but his feet are much better. On this alone I'd call him a better prospect than Haskins.
The biggest minus I saw in this particular game was his deep ball. The conditions weren't great so that may have played a part, but the ball really died on him. He wasn't as bad though throwing shorter passes to the numbers; the ball got there plenty fast on wide receiver screens, etc.
He's not a plus thrower, but he's a better than average athlete - that may reduce his need for plus throws if the Giants are willing to use him as a running threat.
Then make the next QB pick NEXT spring when there will almost certainly be more and to put a point on it, BETTER candidates available.
If the Giants finish 9-7 this year, they may be picking at #20 and all those QB prospects will be gone. I can certainly understand why some here want D at #6 and #17 or possibly a RT. But by the same token, many posters are screaming for an Eli replacement.
60% completion rate
8K yards
Only 50TD to 30 INT ratio
6.4 Y/A
Those aren't 1st Round QB numbers by a long shot. I believe the Giants are using 'the Cutcliffe connection' in what would admittedly be a little unusual for them...an attempt at misdirection.
Unlike Lock, Jones has excellent mechanics, and can throw on the run. He also reads defenses well, and is more than willing to stand in the pocket and take a hit. His mobility is good.
I'm just not sure he has the arm strength to throw a 20 yard NFL out route from the middle of the field. If he can't, corners will sit on those routes. But Shurmur of course said that arm strength is not the most important quality for a QB.
I'd rather take Finley in the third than Jones or Lock at #17.
They are not rainbows.
Unlike Lock, Jones has excellent mechanics, and can throw on the run. He also reads defenses well, and is more than willing to stand in the pocket and take a hit. His mobility is good.
I'm just not sure he has the arm strength to throw a 20 yard NFL out route from the middle of the field. If he can't, corners will sit on those routes. But Shurmur of course said that arm strength is not the most important quality for a QB.
I'd rather take Finley in the third than Jones or Lock at #17.
The first paragraph of this sounds like Eli for the past five or six years.
Greg Cosell Scouting Report - ( New Window )