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Anakim : 3/19/2019 10:25 am
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Hey, Patti. Remember, click bait does not require accuracy, knowledge or accoutabiliy. It only requires one to continue to feed the frenzy.




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Hey Paul, you're the biggest loser I've ever met. Have the sack to @ me or say it to my face at least. And yes, the fifth day of the league year was Sunday, which I confirmed with the league. And the contract reads the bonus gets paid first Wed. of league year. Big Ls!
Dottino vs Raanan in the steel cage.  
Brown Recluse : 3/19/2019 10:25 am : link
Who ya go?
what is it about sportswriting  
Enzo : 3/19/2019 10:27 am : link
that it attracts so many immature individuals?
LOL...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/19/2019 10:28 am : link
These are grown men right?
Paul sucks  
dep026 : 3/19/2019 10:28 am : link
but Raanan is the fucking worst. He's borderline childish. The tears from his eyes when Flowers went after him was gold.
I enjoyed Jordan's work  
ryanmkeane : 3/19/2019 10:29 am : link
before he went to ESPN. Shame what that company does to people
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figgy2989 : 3/19/2019 10:31 am : link
ohhh slap fight!  
ron mexico : 3/19/2019 10:31 am : link
what was Jordan's initial comment that set Dot off?

Raanan is a perfect example  
Jay on the Island : 3/19/2019 10:32 am : link
Of why sports journalism has gone to shit. He intentionally tries to troll fans in order for clicks. He’s like a poor mans Skip Bayless.
Is there anyone covering the Giants these days worth a damn?  
Greg from LI : 3/19/2019 10:35 am : link
Jeez. Makes me miss the hell outta Mike Garafolo.
RE: Is there anyone covering the Giants these days worth a damn?  
Jon in NYC : 3/19/2019 10:36 am : link
In comment 14347106 Greg from LI said:
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Jeez. Makes me miss the hell outta Mike Garafolo.


Tom Rock does a good job imo and has a pretty funny twitter feed.
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arcarsenal : 3/19/2019 10:36 am : link
These are professionals?

Sad.
I'm no fan of  
mmf551 : 3/19/2019 10:38 am : link
Jordan, but Dottino is the absolute worst. His interviews on WFAN are a slog to get through. He just rambles on and on with cringey analogies. He says "Tape" as much as Coach Mac did.

RE: RE: Is there anyone covering the Giants these days worth a damn?  
Enzo : 3/19/2019 10:40 am : link
In comment 14347112 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 14347106 Greg from LI said:


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Jeez. Makes me miss the hell outta Mike Garafolo.



Tom Rock does a good job imo and has a pretty funny twitter feed.

eh, I like it when Rock goes on vacation and they get Neil Best (who is one of my favorite twitter follows of anyone when it comes to NY sports) away from his desk and back out there covering the team.

RE: RE: Is there anyone covering the Giants these days worth a damn?  
Eli Wilson : 3/19/2019 10:40 am : link
In comment 14347112 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 14347106 Greg from LI said:


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Jeez. Makes me miss the hell outta Mike Garafolo.



Tom Rock does a good job imo and has a pretty funny twitter feed.


Yeah, Rock is solid.
"youre the biggest loser I have ever met"  
Essex : 3/19/2019 10:41 am : link
is completely unprofessional. Jordan could have scored his point with that kind of personal attack. Not that what Paul did was professional either, but journalists sometimes take issue with others reporting and Jordan could have handled it in a classier, more professional way.
RE: RE: RE: Is there anyone covering the Giants these days worth a damn?  
arcarsenal : 3/19/2019 10:42 am : link
In comment 14347127 Eli Wilson said:
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In comment 14347106 Greg from LI said:


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Jeez. Makes me miss the hell outta Mike Garafolo.



Tom Rock does a good job imo and has a pretty funny twitter feed.



Yeah, Rock is solid.


RE: I'm no fan of  
Enzo : 3/19/2019 10:43 am : link
In comment 14347118 mmf551 said:
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Jordan, but Dottino is the absolute worst. His interviews on WFAN are a slog to get through. He just rambles on and on with cringey analogies. He says "Tape" as much as Coach Mac did.

Dottino on WFAN is ridiculous. He's way oversensitive about all things Giants...to the point when he and Benigno have had words. Say what you want about Benigno, but he's typically more than fair when it comes to the Giants. But you say one little thing that P-Dot doesn't like and all of a sudden he's lashing out like a baby.
Leonard is the absolute fucking worse.  
smshmth8690 : 3/19/2019 10:43 am : link
I will not buy a paper, click on a link, or read an article written by him. Smarmy fucking douchebag.
RE: RE: RE: Is there anyone covering the Giants these days worth a damn?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/19/2019 10:45 am : link
In comment 14347127 Eli Wilson said:
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In comment 14347106 Greg from LI said:


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Jeez. Makes me miss the hell outta Mike Garafolo.



Tom Rock does a good job imo and has a pretty funny twitter feed.



Yeah, Rock is solid.


Art Stapleton deserves a mention too.
Stapleton and Rock  
Essex : 3/19/2019 10:46 am : link
and I will even go as far as to say Duggan are worth reading and following, the rest of the regular beat is a clown car.
RE: Leonard is the absolute fucking worse.  
mfsd : 3/19/2019 10:46 am : link
In comment 14347143 smshmth8690 said:
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I will not buy a paper, click on a link, or read an article written by him. Smarmy fucking douchebag.


Agreed. A sad commentary when these 2 donkeys (Dottino and Raanan) sniping at each other aren’t even the biggest twats covering the team.
Pat Leonard was the worst when he covered the Rangers  
Greg from LI : 3/19/2019 10:47 am : link
and he's still the worst now that he's on the Giants' beat.
I could do without Leonard, Raanan, Lombardo, and Dunleavy.  
Brown Recluse : 3/19/2019 10:51 am : link
They're all awful.
Duggan and Art are the best imo  
adamg : 3/19/2019 10:52 am : link
I love the Raanan-Dottino feud though. This is an on-going thing. They've gone at each other on twitter before. It always takes this shape too. Dottino subtweets Jordan and then Jordan takes a dump on Dottino.

I have to say, I'm team Raanan. Even though he's a clown, he's not a sycophant like Paul...

Shalom, Jordan... (when he reads these comments)
Everyone has a role to play  
Matt in SGS : 3/19/2019 10:58 am : link
Leonard is a click baiting, antagonistic douche. I think there are few things in life that everyone agrees on, and that's one of them.

Jordan actually has good knowledge and contacts. He does do his homework. But in the competitive world of sports journalism now, with several jobs disappearing, and working at ESPN, he's now in the belly of the beast. I hate to say it, but the Giants are very much a "boring" team. Gettleman has blown away the locker room lawyers (I wonder how many Josina reports we will see out of Giants camp. With Collins and Odell gone, her two biggest contacts went out the door.) . The next controversial thing Eli says will be the first. There isn't much sizzle on this Giants team and for click bait reporters, or working for organizations that demand click bait, the Giants are a hard sell. But Jordan also has always had a bit of an edge to him. How many reporters have been pushed by a Giants player over the years? Well, Jordan pulled the trick with Flowers. (I wish however, Flowers would have clocked him, win-win for all of us, Jordan gets a whack and Flowers would have gotten suspended, oh well...and yes, I"m joking).

Dottino is the homer. The cheerleader. His career is entwined with the Giants. He essentially writes for the School Paper. We know his role. He's is going to be a mouthpiece for the organization, go on the pre/post game shows. He's going to give interviews on WFAN where he will report what the Giants want him to report. He's been around the organization for 30 years.

I just wish we could go back to the Garafalo's of the world who reported on what was going on, and if he had his biases (and everyone does), he checked it at the door for the most part and reported. Journalism is a dying art, pretty much in all facets at this point, so why not sports too.
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Jints in Carolina : 3/19/2019 11:03 am : link
Dottino isn’t grear either  
Jay on the Island : 3/19/2019 11:08 am : link
As he never has anything negative to say about the Giants but he’s employed by the team so that’s not surprising. Leonard and Raanan basically troll fans. It’s quite pathetic to be honest and it makes you really appreciate Garafalo who was unbiased despite being an eagles fan. Meanwhile douchebags like Leonard shows his bias every time he writes just like the pathetic Gary Myers before him.
Jordan  
figgy2989 : 3/19/2019 11:21 am : link
Just seems like that guy who puts his name in Google and refreshes every 30 seconds to see if anyone is talking about him.

Have the sack to @ me  
BlueHurricane : 3/19/2019 11:24 am : link
Modern day fighting words. LMFAO

Raanan is a sh*t stirring hack. Absolutely  
NBGblue : 3/19/2019 11:35 am : link
insufferable and unprofessional.

P Dot isn't great, but at least he's genuine.
Dottino isn’t really a reporter  
Oscar : 3/19/2019 11:46 am : link
He’s like the team scribe, any criticism will be very very light. Fun to listen to on the FAN sometimes but he’s not a serious journalist and won’t give you anything worthwhile really.

Ranaan and Leonard are both hacks basically which sucks because they should be the main reporters we rely on for information.

I stick to national outlets for the most part, and news I pick up here.
RE: Everyone has a role to play  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/19/2019 11:49 am : link
In comment 14347187 Matt in SGS said:
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Leonard is a click baiting, antagonistic douche. I think there are few things in life that everyone agrees on, and that's one of them.

Jordan actually has good knowledge and contacts. He does do his homework. But in the competitive world of sports journalism now, with several jobs disappearing, and working at ESPN, he's now in the belly of the beast. I hate to say it, but the Giants are very much a "boring" team. Gettleman has blown away the locker room lawyers (I wonder how many Josina reports we will see out of Giants camp. With Collins and Odell gone, her two biggest contacts went out the door.) . The next controversial thing Eli says will be the first. There isn't much sizzle on this Giants team and for click bait reporters, or working for organizations that demand click bait, the Giants are a hard sell. But Jordan also has always had a bit of an edge to him. How many reporters have been pushed by a Giants player over the years? Well, Jordan pulled the trick with Flowers. (I wish however, Flowers would have clocked him, win-win for all of us, Jordan gets a whack and Flowers would have gotten suspended, oh well...and yes, I"m joking).

Dottino is the homer. The cheerleader. His career is entwined with the Giants. He essentially writes for the School Paper. We know his role. He's is going to be a mouthpiece for the organization, go on the pre/post game shows. He's going to give interviews on WFAN where he will report what the Giants want him to report. He's been around the organization for 30 years.

I just wish we could go back to the Garafalo's of the world who reported on what was going on, and if he had his biases (and everyone does), he checked it at the door for the most part and reported. Journalism is a dying art, pretty much in all facets at this point, so why not sports too.


Matt, I must admit you are one of the guys on this site who I actively seek out when they post. Good stuff here.
i know raanan frequents this site occassionally..  
2cents : 3/19/2019 11:49 am : link
not his biggest fan so i dont need to go into him as a journalist but even his biggest supporters would say this is a horrible look. Im going to take a look at all the twitter replies to this for a few chuckles, I bet hes getting buried.
RE: Everyone has a role to play  
Danny Kanell : 3/19/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14347187 Matt in SGS said:
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Leonard is a click baiting, antagonistic douche. I think there are few things in life that everyone agrees on, and that's one of them.

Jordan actually has good knowledge and contacts. He does do his homework. But in the competitive world of sports journalism now, with several jobs disappearing, and working at ESPN, he's now in the belly of the beast. I hate to say it, but the Giants are very much a "boring" team. Gettleman has blown away the locker room lawyers (I wonder how many Josina reports we will see out of Giants camp. With Collins and Odell gone, her two biggest contacts went out the door.) . The next controversial thing Eli says will be the first. There isn't much sizzle on this Giants team and for click bait reporters, or working for organizations that demand click bait, the Giants are a hard sell. But Jordan also has always had a bit of an edge to him. How many reporters have been pushed by a Giants player over the years? Well, Jordan pulled the trick with Flowers. (I wish however, Flowers would have clocked him, win-win for all of us, Jordan gets a whack and Flowers would have gotten suspended, oh well...and yes, I"m joking).

Dottino is the homer. The cheerleader. His career is entwined with the Giants. He essentially writes for the School Paper. We know his role. He's is going to be a mouthpiece for the organization, go on the pre/post game shows. He's going to give interviews on WFAN where he will report what the Giants want him to report. He's been around the organization for 30 years.

I just wish we could go back to the Garafalo's of the world who reported on what was going on, and if he had his biases (and everyone does), he checked it at the door for the most part and reported. Journalism is a dying art, pretty much in all facets at this point, so why not sports too.


Sums it up very well
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Chris in Philly : 3/19/2019 11:59 am : link
Surprised Pat Traina hasn't gotten any mentions yet  
PSIMMS 22-25-268 : 3/19/2019 12:02 pm : link
She is always my go-to for Giants news and opinions.
The Giants have been anything but boring these last 5 years  
ZogZerg : 3/19/2019 12:02 pm : link
If you couldn't make it then, your are in big trouble.

I agree that the Giants may become "boring" in the future, but that certainly hasn't been the case.
There  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/19/2019 12:03 pm : link
is a subtext here in Matt's post that I hope everyone caught... and that is WHO has been leaking to the press.
RE: There  
dep026 : 3/19/2019 12:11 pm : link
In comment 14347361 Eric from BBI said:
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is a subtext here in Matt's post that I hope everyone caught... and that is WHO has been leaking to the press.


The same man who pushed for the trade...
RE: There  
flycatcher : 3/19/2019 1:15 pm : link
In comment 14347361 Eric from BBI said:
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is a subtext here in Matt's post that I hope everyone caught... and that is WHO has been leaking to the press.

I'm reading it as Josina leaking from her sources, therefore Landon and/or Odell. Correct? Problem now addressed?
RE: There  
Diver_Down : 3/19/2019 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14347361 Eric from BBI said:
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is a subtext here in Matt's post that I hope everyone caught... and that is WHO has been leaking to the press.


It was caught and has been insinuated for some time. There is no surprise going back to the Collins/Apple feud that Josina was the first to "break" the goings on. Of course, it goes without mention that OBJ and her were BFFs.
Isn't that always the case though?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/19/2019 1:24 pm : link
Strahan had Jay Glazer as his mouthpiece.

Tiki was outed as a locker room leaker the second he was out the door.
OTOH, I thought Josina had a piece early on last year  
Bill L : 3/19/2019 1:29 pm : link
where she was vehement and vehemently proud that the Giants were not going to sign OBJ. I think it was the day before they signed OBJ.
Dottino labeled every report  
joeinpa : 3/19/2019 1:38 pm : link
About Giants being fed up with Beckham as , “click bait” only to diss Beckham the minute Giants traded him.

He is a puppet totally incapable of any objective reporting on the Giants.

RE: There  
montanagiant : 3/19/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14347361 Eric from BBI said:
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is a subtext here in Matt's post that I hope everyone caught... and that is WHO has been leaking to the press.

What was the beef they had with Snacks? Something about being the "Lockerroom Lawyer"? What does that mean exactly?
RE: Duggan and Art are the best imo  
montanagiant : 3/19/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14347172 adamg said:
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I love the Raanan-Dottino feud though. This is an on-going thing. They've gone at each other on twitter before. It always takes this shape too. Dottino subtweets Jordan and then Jordan takes a dump on Dottino.

I have to say, I'm team Raanan. Even though he's a clown, he's not a sycophant like Paul...

Shalom, Jordan... (when he reads these comments)


He didn't subtweet Raanan, he never even mentions his name yet Raanan ran like a fly to shit all butt hurt
RE: RE: Duggan and Art are the best imo  
montanagiant : 3/19/2019 1:48 pm : link
In comment 14347626 montanagiant said:
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I love the Raanan-Dottino feud though. This is an on-going thing. They've gone at each other on twitter before. It always takes this shape too. Dottino subtweets Jordan and then Jordan takes a dump on Dottino.

I have to say, I'm team Raanan. Even though he's a clown, he's not a sycophant like Paul...

Shalom, Jordan... (when he reads these comments)



He didn't subtweet Raanan, he never even mentions his name yet Raanan ran like a fly to shit all butt hurt

Ran to that thread like a fly to shit
RE: RE: I'm no fan of  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/19/2019 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14347142 Enzo said:
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In comment 14347118 mmf551 said:


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Jordan, but Dottino is the absolute worst. His interviews on WFAN are a slog to get through. He just rambles on and on with cringey analogies. He says "Tape" as much as Coach Mac did.



Dottino on WFAN is ridiculous. He's way oversensitive about all things Giants...to the point when he and Benigno have had words. Say what you want about Benigno, but he's typically more than fair when it comes to the Giants. But you say one little thing that P-Dot doesn't like and all of a sudden he's lashing out like a baby.

If you have the audacity to remind Dottino that he was so vocal about Webb being Eli's heir apparent, he'll block you on Twitter. Raanan might be a brat at times himself, but at least he has enough spine to defend his own takes, unlike Dottino.

IMO, Dottino is the worst of the Giants beat reporters, and that includes Pat Leonard.
Paul Dottino is not a Giant beat reporter  
arniefez : 3/19/2019 2:01 pm : link
he is a Giants employee. Sometimes it's hard to listen to his interviews on WFAN because he truly is the Giants version of Bagdad Bob or as Francesa has said it never rains for Paul.

But his interviews are useful if you realize he putting out the information the Giants organization wants out and take it from that perspective.

Most of the actual Giants beat writers are just trolls and shit stirers. Not all but most.

I'm team Paul here. Raanan needs to act like an adult.
I used to love Tom Rock...  
BamaBlue : 3/19/2019 2:34 pm : link
He started posting less about his job and sports and became a political activist.
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O Butter Giants 2019 : 3/19/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14347113 arcarsenal said:
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These are professionals?

Sad.


Where exactly have you been? Journalism has been dead for years.
They both suck  
Matt G : 3/19/2019 2:56 pm : link
Listening to Dottino on the Giants podcast is painful... Listening Ranaan and most of our other crummy beat reporters is even worse...

Mike Garafolo was our last decent beat reporter
RE: RE: Duggan and Art are the best imo  
adamg : 3/19/2019 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14347626 montanagiant said:
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In comment 14347172 adamg said:


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I love the Raanan-Dottino feud though. This is an on-going thing. They've gone at each other on twitter before. It always takes this shape too. Dottino subtweets Jordan and then Jordan takes a dump on Dottino.

I have to say, I'm team Raanan. Even though he's a clown, he's not a sycophant like Paul...

Shalom, Jordan... (when he reads these comments)



He didn't subtweet Raanan, he never even mentions his name yet Raanan ran like a fly to shit all butt hurt


Look up subtweeting. That's what it means. He didn't have to mention his name, Patti was ostensibly correcting a Jordan report. It was implied to be a shot at Raanan.
I like Paul. He’s not always right but at least he stands for somethj  
BBelle21 : 3/19/2019 3:12 pm : link
Jordan is one of the biggest douchebags out there. His hair tweets are creepy.
RE: I like Paul. He’s not always right but at least he stands for somethj  
BigBlueinDE : 3/19/2019 8:13 pm : link
In comment 14347871 BBelle21 said:
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Jordan is one of the biggest douchebags out there. His hair tweets are creepy.


Agreed. I like Paul.
Chris in Philly  
djm : 3/19/2019 9:31 pm : link
Lol!
RE: I like Paul. He’s not always right but at least he stands for somethj  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/20/2019 8:43 am : link
In comment 14347871 BBelle21 said:
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Jordan is one of the biggest douchebags out there. His hair tweets are creepy.

What exactly does Dottino stand for? He's a shill.
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