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Dunleavy: Shurmur and Shula to Buckeyes pro day Weds

Defenderdawg : 3/19/2019 12:10 pm
Ryan Dunleavy (@rydunleavy)
3/19/19, 11:54 AM
Source tells me Giants are sending coach Pat Shurmur, OC/QBs coach Mike Shula to Buckeyes Pro Day on Weds. Another thing to add to equation of their mystery interest in Dwayne Haskins. nj
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Or Parris Campbell  
dep026 : 3/19/2019 12:11 pm : link
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RE: Or Parris Campbell  
Amtoft : 3/19/2019 12:13 pm : link
In comment 14347381 dep026 said:
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That would be a lot for a second round WR.
2 Points  
Biteymax22 : 3/19/2019 12:19 pm : link
1 - Whether or not the organization is high on him at this point in time, they still need to do a full evaluation to make sure they aren't writing off a franchise QB

2 - Ton of other talent at the Ohio State pro day to watch
Was waiting to see how Giants weíre represented at OSU  
BSIMatt : 3/19/2019 12:20 pm : link
And it is what I expected, which completely contradicts that Russini report, which was obviously bullshit.

Doesnít mean Giants love Haskins, but they owe it to themselves to give in depth evaluation of all the top QB prospects.
RE: RE: Or Parris Campbell  
dep026 : 3/19/2019 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14347387 Amtoft said:
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That would be a lot for a second round WR.


Think the Saints would think that with Michael Thomas?
Iím getting scared  
The_Boss : 3/19/2019 12:21 pm : link
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Have Bosa  
CromartiesKid21 : 3/19/2019 12:22 pm : link
run some routes to test if he can be a pass catching threat in the red zone because we have nobody
The other point is that the arguable top prospect in the entire  
BSIMatt : 3/19/2019 12:23 pm : link
draft, Bosa is there as well, so you'd expect strong representation at Ohio State pro day regardless, but the inclusion of Shula holds significance for the quarterback position.
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Amtoft : 3/19/2019 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14347408 dep026 said:
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That would be a lot for a second round WR.



Think the Saints would think that with Michael Thomas?


oh boy... yes because Sean Payton went out to scout Michael Thomas and new he would be amazing but decided to take him in the second round instead. Exactly the same thing and our HC and OC coming to Ohio state pro day.
Trade up for Bosa maybe  
jeff57 : 3/19/2019 12:26 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 3/19/2019 12:26 pm : link
If Shula is there with Shurmur, they're almost certainly there for Haskins.
RE: The other point is that the arguable top prospect in the entire  
Amtoft : 3/19/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14347424 BSIMatt said:
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draft, Bosa is there as well, so you'd expect strong representation at Ohio State pro day regardless, but the inclusion of Shula holds significance for the quarterback position.


exactly... Shurmur there could be anyone. Shula is for Haskins and that doesn't mean the Giants take him, but if he runs a 4.8 or something and throws great that could put them back in the mix for him.
RE: Iím getting scared  
Giants38 : 3/19/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14347410 The_Boss said:
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They sent their entire front office team to watch the QBs last year and passed on him. The guy they didnít watch at his pro day: Saquon Barkley. Means nothing that they are sending anyone over there.
Reading the signals on Haskins  
NoGainDayne : 3/19/2019 12:31 pm : link
I do not think the Giants view him as worth the #6 pick but if he falls would very much grab him at #17 and might package some picks to move up from #17 if he falls past 10.

I don't think Gettleman is at all willing to overuse assets on a QB.

I also have the sense if a QB like Lock or Jones is there in the 2nd round they will pounce.
I like this Parris Campbell kid alot  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/19/2019 12:31 pm : link
FAST FAST FAST and looks to have strong hands! Urben Myer limited him, he's going to be a star like Mike Thomas in the NFL.
Waste of a trip...  
bw in dc : 3/19/2019 12:31 pm : link
At least eight OSU games this year looked like "pro days" for Haskins.
did anyone really think they wouldn't be there?  
GiantsFan84 : 3/19/2019 12:32 pm : link
it'd be total negligence if they didn't go
RE: did anyone really think they wouldn't be there?  
arcarsenal : 3/19/2019 12:34 pm : link
In comment 14347449 GiantsFan84 said:
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it'd be total negligence if they didn't go


Do you read this board?

Yes, people really think things like this.
RE: Waste of a trip...  
Brown Recluse : 3/19/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14347447 bw in dc said:
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At least eight OSU games this year looked like "pro days" for Haskins.


You're a waste of an IP address.
RE: I like this Parris Campbell kid alot  
bw in dc : 3/19/2019 12:36 pm : link
In comment 14347445 Pete from Woodstock said:
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FAST FAST FAST and looks to have strong hands! Urben Myer limited him, he's going to be a star like Mike Thomas in the NFL.


I don't disagree. I think he's a legit first round prospect. Frankly, I'm stunned Metcalf is rated over him.
RE: Waste of a trip...  
NoGainDayne : 3/19/2019 12:38 pm : link
In comment 14347447 bw in dc said:
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At least eight OSU games this year looked like "pro days" for Haskins.


Lol yes good one. We really got a sense what he could do in a scrimmage. Wide open receivers, no pressure.

RE: RE: Waste of a trip...  
Amtoft : 3/19/2019 12:40 pm : link
In comment 14347453 Brown Recluse said:
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At least eight OSU games this year looked like "pro days" for Haskins.



You're a waste of an IP address.


a waste of an IP address? Man you got him good.
RE: RE: Waste of a trip...  
Amtoft : 3/19/2019 12:41 pm : link
In comment 14347465 NoGainDayne said:
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At least eight OSU games this year looked like "pro days" for Haskins.



Lol yes good one. We really got a sense what he could do in a scrimmage. Wide open receivers, no pressure.


Haskins didn't have a good OL... He was always under pressure. Go watch TCU, Michigan, damn man Penn State had like 12 rushers on the field.
Wonder if they both go to Lock's pro day as well  
90.Cal : 3/19/2019 12:41 pm : link
I think his takes place Thursday...
When do we begin to hear about prospects  
90.Cal : 3/19/2019 12:43 pm : link
Coming to the Meadowlands for a private visit/workout? Or does that fly under the public's radar.
RE: Wonder if they both go to Lock's pro day as well  
Amtoft : 3/19/2019 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14347470 90.Cal said:
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I think his takes place Thursday...


I would think they would. Probably Daniel Jones also.
What a shock !  
Bluesbreaker : 3/19/2019 1:54 pm : link
Seriously why wouldn't they be there loads of talent
and of course there is Haskins there is not a ton of
tape on him so we have to feel he is in the mix .
I have my reservations about him but I will try not
to throw the remote .
Paris Campbell is very impressive he is YAK waiting to happen
They won't trade up for Bosa and there is plenty of pass rushers in this draft .
RE: RE: RE: Waste of a trip...  
NoGainDayne : 3/19/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14347468 Amtoft said:
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At least eight OSU games this year looked like "pro days" for Haskins.



Lol yes good one. We really got a sense what he could do in a scrimmage. Wide open receivers, no pressure.




Haskins didn't have a good OL... He was always under pressure. Go watch TCU, Michigan, damn man Penn State had like 12 rushers on the field.


I'll check out Penn St. haven't really had time this past year to watch full games but his highlight reel definitely doesn't show much pressure vs. Murray or other QBs i've simply watched highlight reels for. I do think his stats under pressure seem good I just don't know anything like % of his plays pressured which would situate. If you know of where that stat lives i'd be interested to see it, my google didn't yield any results just now.
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dep026 : 3/19/2019 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14347468 Amtoft said:
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Haskins didn't have a good OL... He was always under pressure. Go watch TCU, Michigan, damn man Penn State had like 12 rushers on the field.


In what world did he have a rush agaisnt him against Michigan? Michigan didnt sniff him.
Isn't this basically their jobs?  
arniefez : 3/19/2019 2:02 pm : link
Hopefully they attend about 20 Pro Days.
RE: The other point is that the arguable top prospect in the entire  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/19/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14347424 BSIMatt said:
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draft, Bosa is there as well, so you'd expect strong representation at Ohio State pro day regardless, but the inclusion of Shula holds significance for the quarterback position.


Yes, absolutely. Can you believe it? Our FO has actively tried to blow smoke up the media's ass about their non interest in Haskins! I love it. But these tea leaves are more like subway graffiti, than smoke.
I mean...  
Dnew15 : 3/19/2019 2:14 pm : link
you gotta go to this ... whether you're taking him or not...right?
In other news,  
Professor Falken : 3/19/2019 2:22 pm : link
water is wet. It's their fucking job, of course they will be there. Just like they went to Murray's pro day. By the way, every other NFL team will be there too, since it's their fucking job as well.
Why would they not go and scout him!  
edavisiii : 3/19/2019 3:23 pm : link
They might not think he is worthy of the the 6th pick but at 17? Don't say never, there will be a lot this draft that will probably make us say, " I didn't see that coming!"
RE: Reading the signals on Haskins  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 3/19/2019 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14347444 NoGainDayne said:
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I do not think the Giants view him as worth the #6 pick but if he falls would very much grab him at #17 and might package some picks to move up from #17 if he falls past 10.

I don't think Gettleman is at all willing to overuse assets on a QB.

I also have the sense if a QB like Lock or Jones is there in the 2nd round they will pounce.


If Haskins is not worth the sixth pick, I would argue he is not worth the seventeenth pick either. If he is The Man, you have to take him at #6. If not, let someone else draft him.
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arcarsenal : 3/19/2019 3:50 pm : link
Yeah, if you're willing to take Haskins @ 17 - then you don't pass on him @ 6. That's how you get burned by playing a passive game with the QB you want.

Not saying NYG should or shouldn't take Haskins over other potential players, but I can't really see a strategy where the Giants pass on him early but then would be willing to take him 11 picks later.

He's not going to be on the board @ 17 anyway. Almost certainly a moot point.
Of course we were always going to do a full work up on Haskins  
Torrag : 3/19/2019 3:52 pm : link
WE had nothing to gain by not doing one. People always want to drive traffic to their site, it's that simple. That's their career and revenue streams. So Shurmur says something to the effect of 'certainly I'd embrace a mobile QB' and that becomes 'the Giants have no interest in Haskins, they aren't even going to scout him' in an attemnpt to drive a frenzy of draftniks into a furor and then to their website.

It's amazing how gullible people are if and when such BS supports their opinions and desires.

Haskins is and always was a player the Giants would do their homework on. Whether they would draft him or at what point they would value him I have no idea.
DG is through and this is their primary job right now,  
TMS : 3/19/2019 4:06 pm : link
Why would they not be there even just to compare performance notes ? All speculation and draft jitters as usual.
Had dinner last night with Haskins  
jeff57 : 3/20/2019 7:36 am : link
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