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Doomster : 3/19/2019 2:39 pm
If we take a QB with our first pick......

And he plays lights out in practice and preseason, would DG have the gonads to cut Eli and save 11.5M?

If he doesn't take a QB, then Eli stays....but I hope they don't waste another pick on a qb later in the draft....
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Danny Kanell : 3/19/2019 2:41 pm : link
I don’t think we would cut him. Eli would start but sit the minute things go south.
Boy, that is one BIG IF  
ZogZerg : 3/19/2019 2:42 pm : link
you have here.

Name the last Rookie QB to play "lights out" in camp and/or preseason.

I can't think of one.
What good would it do  
Gman11 : 3/19/2019 2:43 pm : link
to cut him? He's already proved that he's willing to do whatever the coach wants him to do, even when it's sit so Geno Fucking Smith can start.
Mahomes  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/19/2019 2:44 pm : link
didn't even do that, he sat
rephrase the question  
giants#1 : 3/19/2019 2:44 pm : link
How much better than Eli would the rookie have to perform in camp/preseason, to start opening day over Eli?
Lights out in practice and preseason  
Diver_Down : 3/19/2019 2:48 pm : link
is the barometer to hand over the keys to the franchise? What happens if said practice/preseason studs shits the bed when games matter? Look Kyle looked awesome scampering around in the preseason. Then he gets tasked with real game action and the only pass he completed was to an opponent. Davis Webb and Nassib were anointed at one time or another.

The point is that Eli will start/play until we are eliminated or he is injured. Then Alex, Kyle, or a rookie draft pick will get the call. John and Steve aren't concerned with paying $11.5M to Eli. DG has made a habit of eating dead cap hits larger than saving $11.5M.
RE: Mahomes  
mphbullet36 : 3/19/2019 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14347791 Pete from Woodstock said:
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didn't even do that, he sat


KC was a playoff team...we will be lucky to win 5 games with this current roster...
According to DG  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/19/2019 2:53 pm : link
"Eli is ouw-ah Quawtahback" ;-P
I don’t believe a franchise that could be worth 1-2 billion or  
Big Blue '56 : 3/19/2019 2:56 pm : link
more is concerned about any monies due. Besides, the cap space is quite friendly to us
For the answer, I'd suggest looking at Eli's rookie year  
JohnB : 3/19/2019 2:58 pm : link
something like that would happen with a new QB.

But for a rookie to play head and shoulders above Eli is hard to foresee. The game is so complex and Eli has done it for so long, it's hard to see a rookie being able to surpass Eli by that much, that quickly.
Russell Wilson  
Dnew15 : 3/19/2019 3:02 pm : link
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Dak Prescott  
Dnew15 : 3/19/2019 3:05 pm : link
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Giants JUST paid Eli his 5 million dollar bonus  
I Love Clams Casino : 3/19/2019 3:05 pm : link
if they were going to cut him, he would be gone already BEFORE the Giants paid...he's staying
Rook  
Fast Eddie : 3/19/2019 3:07 pm : link
Won’t see the field until Giants are totally out of playoff contention.
Thats why I think we take  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/19/2019 3:09 pm : link
Drew Lock
If /If /If  
Steve in ATL : 3/19/2019 3:13 pm : link
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Considering all of the available options this year,  
Bill L : 3/19/2019 3:15 pm : link
the OP has truly presented us with a "What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly" type of hypothetical.
Andrew Luck  
Dnew15 : 3/19/2019 3:19 pm : link
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Matt Ryan  
Dnew15 : 3/19/2019 3:20 pm : link
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RE: Boy, that is one BIG IF  
RobCrossRiver56 : 3/19/2019 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14347784 ZogZerg said:
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you have here.

Name the last Rookie QB to play "lights out" in camp and/or preseason.

I can't think of one.


I think Jesse Palmer had a real good pre-season just before we cut him and he went on the Bachelor...iirc
Not an issue  
Thegratefulhead : 3/19/2019 3:51 pm : link
If Eli is beaten out in camp he will retire.
I see a lot of QB names on this thread...  
BillKo : 3/19/2019 4:21 pm : link
..but most had zero competition. In the case of Prescott, Romo was injured.

I think Eli would play until it was evident he needed to be replaced (team losing/bad QB'ing)..........

But we should be so lucky to finally have a young QB who actually looks the part ready to take over.........
RE: Dak Prescott  
ZogZerg : 3/19/2019 5:18 pm : link
In comment 14347851 Dnew15 said:
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He looked great handing ball off to Elliot.
a rookie qb ...  
FranchiseQB : 3/19/2019 5:28 pm : link
... starts the moment he proves he is ready. period. full stop. usually that is a few games into the season. but you do not hold back your heir apparent when they are ready. you don't wait for things to go south with the predecessor. if you wait it is malpractice.
Then KC was guilty  
Dave on the UWS : 3/19/2019 5:48 pm : link
of malpractice in 2017, because that’s what they did.
RE: Then KC was guilty  
eclipz928 : 3/19/2019 6:08 pm : link
In comment 14348328 Dave on the UWS said:
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of malpractice in 2017, because that’s what they did.

Alex Smith had a really good 2017 season. Lead his team to the playoffs and made the Pro Bowl. If Eli has a similar season to that this year then I would expect the Giants to do the same as KC.
RE: RE: Dak Prescott  
Dnew15 : 3/19/2019 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14348275 ZogZerg said:
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In comment 14347851 Dnew15 said:


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He looked great handing ball off to Elliot.


Say what you want about Dak - dude went 13-3 and went 24TDS/3INTS that year.

Pretty sure we could find a guy for 1/4 the price to turn around and hand the ball to SB with this rebuild offensive line.
What I was proving with that list of QBs  
Dnew15 : 3/19/2019 7:33 pm : link
was that it's a straight up myth that you can't draft a guy and start him day one.

Every one of those QBs ended up in the playoffs:
2016/Dak Prescott/ 13-3
2012/Russell Wilson/ 11-5
2012/Andrew Luck/ 11-5
2008/Matt Ryan/ 11-5
Shoot Andy Dalton in 2011 went 9-7 and got in as a wild card team.
Everyone one of them has been back to the playoffs.

There's a lot of ways to handle bringing in a new QB. You don't have to pay a guy $23 million to hand over the reins.
Sometimes you just got to cut bait and start over and let the new guy sink or swim...because...guess what...it's not a foregone conclusion that they are going to sink.
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