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Chatter today at Tide Pro Day-Giants serious in talks with Raiders in attempt to move up for Quinnen Williams. No details, but it obviously will include #6 & other goodies
Is the best player in this draft...End of story. If we can get him, 2 years in row we will draft he best player in the draft. I think he will be better than Jerome Brown.
Yes... Quinnen Williams is elite and if you don't get Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, or Big Q then you are getting a top player not an elite player. He would be a monster for us and I would trade all day ever day as long as it doesn't include #17
I happen to think Quinnen Williams is the best player in the Draft. His quickness and dominance on the inside is truly reminiscent of Aaron Donald. Quinnen is truly a player you build your defense around.
With that being said, Quinnen is really a 3T. I'm not sure if Bettcher would really commit to a 4-3 that's built around Quinnen. We don't exactly have a lot of pieces, but if we're going to trade up for Quinnen, we must switch over to the 4-3. It would bring out the best in Quinnen.
I'm guessing this would be a draft day trade if there is any truth to it
I would assume that we are after one of the top 4 players in the draft. Kyler Murray, Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, and probably the top Giant want in Quinnen Williams.
The Giants can’t be stupid enough to give away ... Â
as unblockable. Doubt few would have an issue with them taking Q Williams with their first pick or even moving up. The devil's in the details (aka goodies)
Yes... Quinnen Williams is elite and if you don't get Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, or Big Q then you are getting a top player not an elite player. He would be a monster for us and I would trade all day ever day as long as it doesn't include #17
It should cost less than 17. Probably our second and a future 2 or 3.
The Jets traded up in a similar spot and it costs two seconds. That's the likely price...
They traded up from 6 to 3 last year and it cost 3 2nd rounders. This would probably cost us less as A) it is from 6 to 4. Also this isn't a QB heavy draft like last year.
but you'd have to think he's going to be an elite NFL pass rusher. I don't think he's that kind transcendent player.
You realize to be a team player Williams played out of position as a NG last year. How many NG have 19.5 TFL and 8 sacks! He was amazing and has big time pass rush and run stopping ability. That is why he is being called elite.
The Jets traded up in a similar spot and it costs two seconds. That's the likely price...
They traded up from 6 to 3 last year and it cost 3 2nd rounders. This would probably cost us less as A) it is from 6 to 4. Also this isn't a QB heavy draft like last year.
IF they get williams, i think a trade for rosen is almost a given considering there will be no #17 this year and waiting is a massive risk.
if they can move up for williams using a 2020 1st, then trade for rosen and go williams at 4 and dev bush at 17
The Round 2 pick? No.
Either of the thirds? No.
After that, we can talk. Maybe.
Yes... Quinnen Williams is elite and if you don't get Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, or Big Q then you are getting a top player not an elite player. He would be a monster for us and I would trade all day ever day as long as it doesn't include #17
But Where does he play in a 3-4?
I happen to think Quinnen Williams is the best player in the Draft. His quickness and dominance on the inside is truly reminiscent of Aaron Donald. Quinnen is truly a player you build your defense around.
With that being said, Quinnen is really a 3T. I'm not sure if Bettcher would really commit to a 4-3 that's built around Quinnen. We don't exactly have a lot of pieces, but if we're going to trade up for Quinnen, we must switch over to the 4-3. It would bring out the best in Quinnen.
IF they get williams, i think a trade for rosen is almost a given considering there will be no #17 this year and waiting is a massive risk.
if they can move up for williams using a 2020 1st, then trade for rosen and go williams at 4 and dev bush at 17
You'd be willing to give up a 2020 1st to move up a few spots to take Williams?
Really?
The Round 2 pick? No.
Either of the thirds? No.
After that, we can talk. Maybe.
We only have one third
I'm guessing this would be a draft day trade if there is any truth to it
Agree - we need several good players
I'm guessing this would be a draft day trade if there is any truth to it
I would assume that we are after one of the top 4 players in the draft. Kyler Murray, Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, and probably the top Giant want in Quinnen Williams.
It is only 2 spots... it isn't going to be that crazy. Maybe a 2nd rounder.
ridiculously better... The top 3 Def are off the charts while the others are really good.
we receive #4 and # 24 and #126
we get best remaining DL and a T at #24 +
No way I'd want the Giants to cash in next year's 1st to move 2 spots.
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they are moving up but not for Q williams.
IF they get williams, i think a trade for rosen is almost a given considering there will be no #17 this year and waiting is a massive risk.
if they can move up for williams using a 2020 1st, then trade for rosen and go williams at 4 and dev bush at 17
You'd be willing to give up a 2020 1st to move up a few spots to take Williams?
Really?
i meant as a package...get maybe a 2 or 3 back but thats contingent on getting rosen
we receive #4 and # 24 and #126
we get best remaining DL and a T at #24 +
Oh come on man... Why would they move down 2 spots at the top of the draft to gain 7 spots later in the first and give up #126? Come on man.
Sorry Getts / Shurmur you want to win those games find a star at 6
We have limited ammunition in Rounds 4,5,7 to use in trading up but that opportunity applies in Rounds 3,4,5.
We need to nail all three picks in the top 40. Heck some of our third and some of our fours and fives need to be immediate contributors on defense.
He is amazing. Look out of all the first round Alabama DT that have come out ... IMO he is the best so far. He is a stud.
The Round 2 pick? No.
Either of the thirds? No.
After that, we can talk. Maybe.
The Jets traded up in a similar spot and it costs two seconds. That's the likely price...
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if we can get a great pick at 6?
Yes... Quinnen Williams is elite and if you don't get Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, or Big Q then you are getting a top player not an elite player. He would be a monster for us and I would trade all day ever day as long as it doesn't include #17
It should cost less than 17. Probably our second and a future 2 or 3.
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The 17? No.
The Round 2 pick? No.
Either of the thirds? No.
After that, we can talk. Maybe.
The Jets traded up in a similar spot and it costs two seconds. That's the likely price...
They traded up from 6 to 3 last year and it cost 3 2nd rounders. This would probably cost us less as A) it is from 6 to 4. Also this isn't a QB heavy draft like last year.
Like I guess the Raiders have a ton of money... I'm sure it would cost more than Shep and 6 to move up though. Maybe Shep, 6, and 37 for 2...
Being okay with one of the top 2-3 QBs (Jets trading up to #3, Eagles trading to #2, Washington to #2) is one thing...
Being comfortable enough with either a QB, DT or EDGE just seems very farfetched, IMO
You realize to be a team player Williams played out of position as a NG last year. How many NG have 19.5 TFL and 8 sacks! He was amazing and has big time pass rush and run stopping ability. That is why he is being called elite.
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In comment 14347926 Beezer said:
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The 17? No.
The Round 2 pick? No.
Either of the thirds? No.
After that, we can talk. Maybe.
The Jets traded up in a similar spot and it costs two seconds. That's the likely price...
They traded up from 6 to 3 last year and it cost 3 2nd rounders. This would probably cost us less as A) it is from 6 to 4. Also this isn't a QB heavy draft like last year.
You're right. My bad. It was three seconds.
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In comment 14347922 BleedBlue said:
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they are moving up but not for Q williams.
IF they get williams, i think a trade for rosen is almost a given considering there will be no #17 this year and waiting is a massive risk.
if they can move up for williams using a 2020 1st, then trade for rosen and go williams at 4 and dev bush at 17
You'd be willing to give up a 2020 1st to move up a few spots to take Williams?
Really?
i meant as a package...get maybe a 2 or 3 back but thats contingent on getting rosen
Under no circumstances do I trade away a future 2020 1st.
That is what I said.. It would cost less because it is 6 to 4 and that was a QB heavy draft.