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Chatter today at Tide Pro Day-Giants serious in talks with Raiders in attempt to move up for Quinnen Williams. No details, but it obviously will include #6 & other goodies
If all the others are blue chips which I agree then we need a super blue chip. Not all blue chips are equal. These are 3 of the best Def players I have seen in the draft at the same time. I would go up to 4 in a heart beat as long as I still had another 1st.
Don’t many mocks consider Williams going 2 overall UNLESS Cards take Murray? Let’s say Murray goes 1, Bosa 2 to SF. 3 would be Williams to the Jets. I don’t see the Jets taking Allen over Williams, I can totally be wrong though. This kind of trade could easily backfire.
Don’t many mocks consider Williams going 2 overall UNLESS Cards take Murray? Let’s say Murray goes 1, Bosa 2 to SF. 3 would be Williams to the Jets. I don’t see the Jets taking Allen over Williams, I can totally be wrong though. This kind of trade could easily backfire.
Why wouldn't they take Josh Allen... They clearly want an OLB after they missed on Anthony Barr. He is a stud and they easily can take him.
I'd love to get into the top 4. There's a steep and noticeable dropoff after Murray, Bosa, Q, and Allen. Those are the truly elite guys. 6 is like no man's land. If not up, I'd prefer to trade back as there are a lot of good players from 5 on that are all within the same ballpark of each other.
I'd love to get into the top 4. There's a steep and noticeable dropoff after Murray, Bosa, Q, and Allen. Those are the truly elite guys. 6 is like no man's land. If not up, I'd prefer to trade back as there are a lot of good players from 5 on that are all within the same ballpark of each other.
Agreed. Though I think Sweat and Greedy are the clear next 2 after a bit of a drop.
but last year he seemed to say a lot of things (like 10 things) relating to the Giants and none of them came to fruition. It was like that one year when Jordan named 15 prospects they would take and Engram wasn’t listed.
It doesn't make sense, the trade up that makes all the sense in the world is a trade up from 6 to 4 or 5 for Allen, that is what I think the Giants could do.
Williams would be great value at the 4th pick in the draft, but I Â
Get your offensive lineman. Taylor. Ford. Risner
Get your defensive lineman. Gary. Lawrence Ferrell or even Devin White(LB)
No overthinking here. No fancy moves. Build the lines
Get your offensive lineman. Taylor. Ford. Risner
Get your defensive lineman. Gary. Lawrence Ferrell or even Devin White(LB)
No overthinking here. No fancy moves. Build the lines
Yes... Quinnen Williams is elite and if you don't get Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, or Big Q then you are getting a top player not an elite player. He would be a monster for us and I would trade all day ever day as long as it doesn't include #17
I agree with this. Those three seem to be on a top shelf of their own this year. If I were to trade up, i'd prefer to trade up for Josh Allen, partly because I think Williams would have to play DE in the 3-4, and he might not reach his potential for inside pressure playing end.
About NO offering Kamara to NYG, I won't take in any rumors from him.
I'm trying to make sense of him saying that Haskins ran a 4.59 40 in the spring. Chalking it up to confusion, because it seems impossible to have happened. Sometimes with as many contacts as he has and as many prospects as he follows, it could be he gets confused about what he's hearing/heard.
I don't know.
RE: RE: RE: Would it be wise to use up quality picks, Â
Yes... Quinnen Williams is elite and if you don't get Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, or Big Q then you are getting a top player not an elite player. He would be a monster for us and I would trade all day ever day as long as it doesn't include #17
I agree with this. Those three seem to be on a top shelf of their own this year. If I were to trade up, i'd prefer to trade up for Josh Allen, partly because I think Williams would have to play DE in the 3-4, and he might not reach his potential for inside pressure playing end.
I'd rather have Josh Allen if we could move up without a significant cost.
We could however move up in the 2nd round if someone we
covet slides . If were gonna start throwing picks around
then do it for a QB . We have plenty of holes to fill .
he isn't a nose tackle . He is a great prospect but
we should keep our assets and use them wisely .
Get your offensive lineman. Taylor. Ford. Risner
Get your defensive lineman. Gary. Lawrence Ferrell or even Devin White(LB)
No overthinking here. No fancy moves. Build the lines
I agree.
I will third that I love Allen he can do it all IMO but
Jets are going Allen or Williams
Would you take Greedy Williams if he slides to 17 ?
Not me trenches !
I will be pissed. This will show that Dave G has no plan. You have a real opportunity to rebuild your team with the draft capital we have, do no waste it by trading up.
With that said, I believe this to be false, no way he will last to pick 4.
than other defensive players available at six? Doesn't seem to make sense.
Yes, all day. Quinnen Williams is a manimal. I think he's the best player in this draft as well, and I think he's in a class by himself, and no I didn't forget about Bosa. I think he's way better than Bosa, and I think Bosa is no worse than the 3rd best player in this draft.
If Williams was available via trade up, and the Giants did that, I wouldn't flinch.
than other defensive players available at six? Doesn't seem to make sense.
Yes, all day. Quinnen Williams is a manimal. I think he's the best player in this draft as well, and I think he's in a class by himself, and no I didn't forget about Bosa. I think he's way better than Bosa, and I think Bosa is no worse than the 3rd best player in this draft.
If Williams was available via trade up, and the Giants did that, I wouldn't flinch.
We have a number of needs but depending on price, I'd be all for the best player in the draft 2 years straight.
it needs to be for a QB this is a very strong defensive draft moving up isnt good value unless you have conviction in a QB.
gettleman has said several times he wants to follow the kansas city model this can only mean a trade up to secure haskins which will require a move up with either the jets or raiders who are also reportedly interested in haskins too
if murray does go 1 to arizona then bosa will almost certainly go 2 ,since neither 49ers or jets are going QB this is where you need to target first to beat oakland unless you trade with oakland or plan to take a trade with rosen where i wouldnt spend more than the second or third round pick given how fast he is being moved its a huge red flag
i never wanted him when they could have taken him either and nothing he has done on or off the field has changed to make him any better
We could however move up in the 2nd round if someone we
covet slides . If were gonna start throwing picks around
then do it for a QB . We have plenty of holes to fill .
he isn't a nose tackle . He is a great prospect but
we should keep our assets and use them wisely .
we need to take our QB while we are in a position to do it without having to mortgage the franchise next year to get one.
If all the others are blue chips which I agree then we need a super blue chip. Not all blue chips are equal. These are 3 of the best Def players I have seen in the draft at the same time. I would go up to 4 in a heart beat as long as I still had another 1st.
Why wouldn't they take Josh Allen... They clearly want an OLB after they missed on Anthony Barr. He is a stud and they easily can take him.
It is in Dave Te's thread.
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Where did you see this rumor?
It is in Dave Te's thread.
Dave Te's Rumor - ( New Window )
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In comment 14348258 Big Rick in FL said:
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Where did you see this rumor?
It is in Dave Te's thread.
Dave Te's Rumor - ( New Window )
Thanks! Somehow completely overlooked that thread.
Draft an ER, please.
That's a fair point. This is a Dave Te rumor we're talking about...
Agreed. Though I think Sweat and Greedy are the clear next 2 after a bit of a drop.
No way I'd want the Giants to cash in next year's 1st to move 2 spots.
It cost the Jets three 2nds to go from 6 to 3 last year. Going from 6 to 4 would cost at least one 2nd, possibly more than just that.
Get your defensive lineman. Gary. Lawrence Ferrell or even Devin White(LB)
No overthinking here. No fancy moves. Build the lines
He's a very good player at everything.
I see a lot of Richard Seymour.
Get your defensive lineman. Gary. Lawrence Ferrell or even Devin White(LB)
No overthinking here. No fancy moves. Build the lines
I agree.
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if we can get a great pick at 6?
Yes... Quinnen Williams is elite and if you don't get Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, or Big Q then you are getting a top player not an elite player. He would be a monster for us and I would trade all day ever day as long as it doesn't include #17
I agree with this. Those three seem to be on a top shelf of their own this year. If I were to trade up, i'd prefer to trade up for Josh Allen, partly because I think Williams would have to play DE in the 3-4, and he might not reach his potential for inside pressure playing end.
I'm trying to make sense of him saying that Haskins ran a 4.59 40 in the spring. Chalking it up to confusion, because it seems impossible to have happened. Sometimes with as many contacts as he has and as many prospects as he follows, it could be he gets confused about what he's hearing/heard.
I don't know.
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In comment 14347914 Big Blue '56 said:
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if we can get a great pick at 6?
Yes... Quinnen Williams is elite and if you don't get Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, or Big Q then you are getting a top player not an elite player. He would be a monster for us and I would trade all day ever day as long as it doesn't include #17
I agree with this. Those three seem to be on a top shelf of their own this year. If I were to trade up, i'd prefer to trade up for Josh Allen, partly because I think Williams would have to play DE in the 3-4, and he might not reach his potential for inside pressure playing end.
I'd rather have Josh Allen if we could move up without a significant cost.
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but I’m not sure he’s elite. Can he play the run?
He's a very good player at everything.
I see a lot of Richard Seymour.
A little Richard Seymour? There's about a fifty pound difference there...
covet slides . If were gonna start throwing picks around
then do it for a QB . We have plenty of holes to fill .
he isn't a nose tackle . He is a great prospect but
we should keep our assets and use them wisely .
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Get your offensive lineman. Taylor. Ford. Risner
Get your defensive lineman. Gary. Lawrence Ferrell or even Devin White(LB)
No overthinking here. No fancy moves. Build the lines
I agree.
I will third that I love Allen he can do it all IMO but
Jets are going Allen or Williams
Would you take Greedy Williams if he slides to 17 ?
Not me trenches !
With that said, I believe this to be false, no way he will last to pick 4.
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In comment 14348375 ryanmkeane said:
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but I’m not sure he’s elite. Can he play the run?
He's a very good player at everything.
I see a lot of Richard Seymour.
A little Richard Seymour? There's about a fifty pound difference there...
seems littler. so a little richard seymour.
Yes, all day. Quinnen Williams is a manimal. I think he's the best player in this draft as well, and I think he's in a class by himself, and no I didn't forget about Bosa. I think he's way better than Bosa, and I think Bosa is no worse than the 3rd best player in this draft.
If Williams was available via trade up, and the Giants did that, I wouldn't flinch.
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than other defensive players available at six? Doesn't seem to make sense.
Yes, all day. Quinnen Williams is a manimal. I think he's the best player in this draft as well, and I think he's in a class by himself, and no I didn't forget about Bosa. I think he's way better than Bosa, and I think Bosa is no worse than the 3rd best player in this draft.
If Williams was available via trade up, and the Giants did that, I wouldn't flinch.
We have a number of needs but depending on price, I'd be all for the best player in the draft 2 years straight.
So we make the move for Q. Williams and then what if Lynch decides he likes him better than Bosa/Allen?
Unless you're making this move when you're on the clock and you know he's there, be careful.
Quinnen Williams is a dynamic 3T. We could move B.J Hill to NT, plus the new signing Olsen Pierre played NT for Bettcher previously.
Do you read those?
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good just to be able to parse out a trade rumor in those walls of text!!
Do you read those?
Nope. I'll wait for Sy's reports. Formatted. Easy to read. Numerical Grade. No eye strain. And no announcement in every thread title that it is Sy.
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In comment 14348857 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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good just to be able to parse out a trade rumor in those walls of text!!
Do you read those?
Nope. I'll wait for Sy's reports. Formatted. Easy to read. Numerical Grade. No eye strain. And no announcement in every thread title that it is Sy.
I'm the same way.
gettleman has said several times he wants to follow the kansas city model this can only mean a trade up to secure haskins which will require a move up with either the jets or raiders who are also reportedly interested in haskins too
if murray does go 1 to arizona then bosa will almost certainly go 2 ,since neither 49ers or jets are going QB this is where you need to target first to beat oakland unless you trade with oakland or plan to take a trade with rosen where i wouldnt spend more than the second or third round pick given how fast he is being moved its a huge red flag
i never wanted him when they could have taken him either and nothing he has done on or off the field has changed to make him any better
The move is exactly the opposite, you go hard at the strength of supply and try to build abundant units.
and go for Offensive 'skills positions' (WRs, QBs, skinny people) in 2020.
covet slides . If were gonna start throwing picks around
then do it for a QB . We have plenty of holes to fill .
he isn't a nose tackle . He is a great prospect but
we should keep our assets and use them wisely .