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In Odell's wake, this resonates

battttles : 3/19/2019 8:40 pm
Enlightening thoughts from Chris Wesseling and Bill James

and this misses any point that was made  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/19/2019 8:44 pm : link
by several thousand leagues

I just can't  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/19/2019 8:46 pm : link
anymore.
Well, in the long shot chance to make the playoffs  
BSIMatt : 3/19/2019 8:47 pm : link
He wasnít on the field, so, he didnít factor in either way. Tough to make an impact winning games missing 16 games your last two seasons here.
Shouldn't this drivel be in Elite Mobsters thread?  
JCin332 : 3/19/2019 8:48 pm : link
..
this post really is about the dumbing down of America  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/19/2019 8:49 pm : link
and a total lack of understanding of what football is all about
Hmm Is he referring to Eli as our best player?  
Diver_Down : 3/19/2019 8:52 pm : link
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Very often the team ends up focusing on what their best player DOESN'T do, and thus attributes their collective failure to the star.


Based on the focus that Eli can't do this or that and he is to blame for the team's failure, then the hypothesis that Eli is our best player is proven true.
It doesn't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/19/2019 8:57 pm : link
even pertain though. Nobody postulated that we were bad because of Beckham. He was traded to avoid future headaches and meltdowns and to get value, not an assessment of how responsible he was for the losing.
...  
battttles : 3/19/2019 9:17 pm : link
I think it pertains
"I've said this to ownership" - ( New Window )
RE: this post really is about the dumbing down of America  
bradshaw44 : 3/19/2019 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14348583 gidiefor said:
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and a total lack of understanding of what football is all about


This went through my head immediately.
RE: It doesn't..  
chuckydee9 : 3/19/2019 10:21 pm : link
In comment 14348597 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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even pertain though. Nobody postulated that we were bad because of Beckham. He was traded to avoid future headaches and meltdowns and to get value, not an assessment of how responsible he was for the losing.


Tons of people on BBI blame Giants record on OBJ. Fat Mike on WFAN has a lot of followers.. the overall situation reminds me a lot of Ewing..
Odell wasnt our best player  
kes722 : 3/19/2019 10:42 pm : link
Last year, Barkley was.

Anyone calling him a cancer?

Say how we would be better without his distractions?

How many fights has he gotten into with other players?

How many times did he call out his QB / coach?

Did he do any really inappropriate calibrations?

OBJ is a hell of a talent... but he is also an ass hole. He is gone... stop being little bitches and go root for Cleveland
So much negativity  
MM_in_NYC : 3/19/2019 11:07 pm : link
towards those who want to discuss the OBJ trade and don't have a positive view of it.

This poster saw something that resonated with him and some of you guys say he's not a real fan because he's upset one of our best players got traded? Unreal.
RE: So much negativity  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/19/2019 11:10 pm : link
In comment 14348692 MM_in_NYC said:
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towards those who want to discuss the OBJ trade and don't have a positive view of it.

This poster saw something that resonated with him and some of you guys say he's not a real fan because he's upset one of our best players got traded? Unreal.


english is your friend?

who said he wasn't a real fan?
RE: RE: So much negativity  
MM_in_NYC : 3/19/2019 11:15 pm : link
In comment 14348694 gidiefor said:
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In comment 14348692 MM_in_NYC said:


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towards those who want to discuss the OBJ trade and don't have a positive view of it.

This poster saw something that resonated with him and some of you guys say he's not a real fan because he's upset one of our best players got traded? Unreal.



english is your friend?

who said he wasn't a real fan?


English is my friend? What now? LOL.

How about the person immediately commenting before me saying to root for the Browns. As though he's only a OBJ fan and not a Giants fan.
JFC  
Joey in VA : 3/20/2019 12:04 am : link
People are stupid, film at 11. We will win this trade and all the gelled up know nothing tw@s will be scrambling for answers. You all suck, I am smarter than you are so STFU.
RE: It doesn't..  
giants#1 : 3/20/2019 8:14 am : link
In comment 14348597 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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even pertain though. Nobody postulated that we were bad because of Beckham. He was traded to avoid future headaches and meltdowns and to get value, not an assessment of how responsible he was for the losing.


I wouldn't say nobody. Go Terps certainly blamed Beckham.
RE: JFC  
giants#1 : 3/20/2019 8:15 am : link
In comment 14348713 Joey in VA said:
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People are stupid, film at 11. We will win this trade and all the gelled up know nothing tw@s will be scrambling for answers. You all suck, I am smarter than you are so STFU.


No, they'll just pretend they loved the trade from the start!
Btw  
giants#1 : 3/20/2019 8:16 am : link
If it's a Bill James quote, it's most likely related to basketball where "stars" have a much bigger impact on the outcomes and are expected, especially by fans, to carry their teams regardless of circumstances.
RE: Btw  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/20/2019 8:49 am : link
In comment 14348847 giants#1 said:
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If it's a Bill James quote, it's most likely related to basketball where "stars" have a much bigger impact on the outcomes and are expected, especially by fans, to carry their teams regardless of circumstances.

Uhhh, if it's a Bill James quote, it's most likely related to baseball because Bill James is most related to baseball.
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