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If we stay at 6, Bucs could be a big swing pick

Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 5:41 am
Assuming draft goes like this. Murray at #1, then Bosa, Q.Will and Allen (in some order) go 2 to 4. What will he Bucs do? Will they go Greedy Williams arguably the best cover in the draft? Would they go Montez Sweat? Someone else?

If you really want an edge guy at 6 if they go Sweat that will be a bit of a tough spot. Because Sweat is the last guy (even with a bit of a drop from the top 3) in terms of really high upside as a sack guy. There are other guys but they aren't the types you would expect double digit sacks on a regular basis (Jaylon being a possible exception but he is a mid first round guy I think).

Anyone hearing strong rumors where else the Bucs could go besides Greedy or Sweat?

Could this also be another reason we are trying to move up to 4?
Arent people saying Greedy is going  
mattnyg05 : 3/20/2019 5:44 am : link
in the second round or late first?
RE: Arent people saying Greedy is going  
OBJRoyal : 3/20/2019 5:48 am : link
In comment 14348761 mattnyg05 said:
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in the second round or late first?


That's what I've been seeing as well. Greedy isnt being talked about in the top 6 for sure
It seems Cinn wants haskins  
George from PA : 3/20/2019 5:49 am : link
Trade back to 11....hopefully get their 2020 1st.

I would like draft capital next year....
RE: Arent people saying Greedy is going  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 5:50 am : link
In comment 14348761 mattnyg05 said:
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in the second round or late first?


Wild fluctuation on him I've seen a few showing him at #5 and a couple showing him late round1. I'm not buying it though unless the character stuff is worse than anticipated. The tale is in the tape and it reveals rare cover skill ability.
RE: It seems Cinn wants haskins  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 5:52 am : link
In comment 14348764 George from PA said:
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Trade back to 11....hopefully get their 2020 1st.

I would like draft capital next year....


The trade back option for a kings ransom for a team wanting a QB could be quite worth it if our top tier options are gone.
Isnt Sweat dropping?  
Couchy : 3/20/2019 6:04 am : link
Due to his heart condition?
RE: Isnt Sweat dropping?  
robbieballs2003 : 3/20/2019 6:10 am : link
In comment 14348768 Couchy said:
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Due to his heart condition?


BR said it shouldn't affect him.
RE: RE: Isnt Sweat dropping?  
robbieballs2003 : 3/20/2019 6:21 am : link
In comment 14348770 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14348768 Couchy said:


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Due to his heart condition?



BR said it shouldn't affect him.


Here is anrticle from Yahoo on Sweat.
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RE: It seems Cinn wants haskins  
Big Blue Hokie : 3/20/2019 6:37 am : link
In comment 14348764 George from PA said:
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Trade back to 11....hopefully get their 2020 1st.

I would like draft capital next year....


👆🏻This is the perfect scenario. While getting a 1st this year in the OBJ trade was good, we really should be getting ammo ready to move up in 2020.
RE: Isnt Sweat dropping?  
section125 : 3/20/2019 6:42 am : link
In comment 14348768 Couchy said:
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Due to his heart condition?


If his heart condition is making him drop, why would the Giants want him? He is either ok to play or he is not. All the teams have the report which appears to say while abnormal it is not a health concern.
If the draft ran that way,  
DonnieD89 : 3/20/2019 7:31 am : link
I would definitely take Sweat, if you think Haskins is not a franchise QB worth taking at #6. If Bucs take Sweat, then I think Devin White would be best available at #6, then take Burns at #17, if available. I would hope a good OT would be there to take at #37. My realistic hope would be to take Sweat at #6 and one of Jonah Williams, Jawaan Taylor, Andre Dillard or Cody Ford at #17.
Two Things:  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 3/20/2019 7:42 am : link
Tampa is apparently quite enamored of Devin White. They lost Kwan Alexander and need to replace him.

Second, If we do not take an OT with one of our two first round picks, I will be steamed. OL is our biggest need. We are going nowhere until our OL is really solid. RT and C are two positions screaming for talent upgrades. Get a pass rusher at #6 if you must (and Devin White qualifies as he is an excellent blitzer), but find an OT (Taylor, Dillard, J Williams) or a C (Bradbury) at #17.

I worry that DG thinks he can find quality OL in the mid rounds. Maybe he can, but our track record on that score has been miserable.
Devin White or a trade back  
jeff57 : 3/20/2019 8:07 am : link
Would be my guess
The more I read about Sweat  
jeff57 : 3/20/2019 8:08 am : link
The more it looks like his ideal position is as a 4-3 end. Tampa is moving to a 3-4. I could see Sweat going to the Lions at 8.
RE: It seems Cinn wants haskins  
RobCarpenter : 3/20/2019 8:11 am : link
In comment 14348764 George from PA said:
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Trade back to 11....hopefully get their 2020 1st.

I would like draft capital next year....


The Jets seem like a much more likely trade partner. They need picks after trading up last year.

Also, as far as I know DG has never traded down.
RE: The more I read about Sweat  
AcidTest : 3/20/2019 9:13 am : link
In comment 14348837 jeff57 said:
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The more it looks like his ideal position is as a 4-3 end. Tampa is moving to a 3-4. I could see Sweat going to the Lions at 8.


Agreed. Which means that Sweat might not fit what we need either.
If the 3 blue chippers are gone  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/20/2019 10:31 am : link
Sitting at 6 and taking Hockenson would be fine with me. 2 way TEs are even more rare than a ER.
RE: Two Things:  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14348810 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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Tampa is apparently quite enamored of Devin White. They lost Kwan Alexander and need to replace him.

Second, If we do not take an OT with one of our two first round picks, I will be steamed. OL is our biggest need. We are going nowhere until our OL is really solid. RT and C are two positions screaming for talent upgrades. Get a pass rusher at #6 if you must (and Devin White qualifies as he is an excellent blitzer), but find an OT (Taylor, Dillard, J Williams) or a C (Bradbury) at #17.

I worry that DG thinks he can find quality OL in the mid rounds. Maybe he can, but our track record on that score has been miserable.


Good stuff. Interesting, it could be White at 5. Leaving Greedy, Sweat and Haskins there. What will it be?
RE: If the 3 blue chippers are gone  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 12:19 pm : link
In comment 14349112 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Sitting at 6 and taking Hockenson would be fine with me. 2 way TEs are even more rare than a ER.


But not in impact for a team like a top ER is.
RE: Two Things:  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14348810 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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Second, If we do not take an OT with one of our two first round picks, I will be steamed. OL is our biggest need. We are going nowhere until our OL is really solid. RT and C are two positions screaming for talent upgrades. Get a pass rusher at #6 if you must (and Devin White qualifies as he is an excellent blitzer), but find an OT (Taylor, Dillard, J Williams) or a C (Bradbury) at #17.

I worry that DG thinks he can find quality OL in the mid rounds. Maybe he can, but our track record on that score has been miserable.


Nomad we got a plug and play OL last year in the 2nd. This year the OL class is even deeper especially at our need spot RT.

ER will thin out really, really fast with the expected run in the top 10.

We still would very likely get a high caliber OT in the 2nd but not nearly as good an ER.
Easy choices in that scenario  
Torrag : 3/20/2019 12:24 pm : link
If we are going QB take Haskins. If we aren't take Devin White.
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