The espn reporter that released the information that we are not interested is an absolute hoax. Teams dont have their draft boards set at the combine so the fact that there is a rumor we dont have interest is smoke and mirrors. This guy fits exactly what the giants want in a QB. Hes humble, big, pocket passer, grew up a giants fan, local kid, and is not a diva like Murray. Murrays attitude and demeanor is the thing that makes me thing they have zero interest in him even if by some miracle hes available at six. I still think Haskins is the pick if hes there at 6.
if PS and DG believe he is the future franchise QB, I will not be disappointed. They know better than most of us. My opinion of getting and edge rusher at #6 is not relevant, given that I am not a professional scout. Smokescreen or no smokescreen, they have to do their homework on Haskins.
Everybody now assuming Haskins is the pick. Pump the brakes... Giants doing their homework on all potential first round picks.
I keep going back to DGs year end press conference... we need to fix the defense!!!!
The espn reporter that released the information that we are not interested is an absolute hoax. Teams dont have their draft boards set at the combine so the fact that there is a rumor we dont have interest is smoke and mirrors. This guy fits exactly what the giants want in a QB. Hes humble, big, pocket passer, grew up a giants fan, local kid, and is not a diva like Murray. Murrays attitude and demeanor is the thing that makes me thing they have zero interest in him even if by some miracle hes available at six. I still think Haskins is the pick if hes there at 6.
The espn reporter that released the information that we are not interested is an absolute hoax. Teams dont have their draft boards set at the combine so the fact that there is a rumor we dont have interest is smoke and mirrors. This guy fits exactly what the giants want in a QB. Hes humble, big, pocket passer, grew up a giants fan, local kid, and is not a diva like Murray. Murrays attitude and demeanor is the thing that makes me thing they have zero interest in him even if by some miracle hes available at six. I still think Haskins is the pick if hes there at 6.
Most of the things you mentioned (humble, grew up a Giants fan, local kid) have no bearing on anything, and the others (big and pocket passer) don't necessarily have any bearing on anything.
saying Haskins not the best athlete, has an explosive arm, impressive thrower and more an old school QB. He needs to show better movement in pocket and avoid contact to get rid of the ball faster.
Breer says he could slip to middle of the round but depends on what happens with Murray. If Murray goes #1 then another team could get antsy and trade up (mentions Jets as target spot) to get him.
saying Haskins not the best athlete, has an explosive arm, impressive thrower and more an old school QB. He needs to show better movement in pocket and avoid contact to get rid of the ball faster.
Breer says he could slip to middle of the round but depends on what happens with Murray. If Murray goes #1 then another team could get antsy and trade up (mentions Jets as target spot) to get him.
I should have included, just said this now on Sirius with Ross Tucker and Charlie Weiss..
There hasn't been much talk about this possibility:
that QB draft prospects have their flaws magnified and their skills diminished. Giants are doing their due diligence. Everything else (they like him, he is off their board, they will trade up/down) is just noise.
But its just too much elite defensive talent at 6. This team desperately needs a playmaker on defense. Thats why I think trading for Rosen is the best option
Edge or White-Haskins-OL with our first 3 picks, that would be a great way to start this draft. If Gettleman could somehow pull that off without dealing away #37
If the Giants wanted him, they would be motivated to keep things quiet. On the other hand, if they didn't want him, they would be motivated to have someone jump ahead of them for him, pushing another prospect back, and also want to reassure the fans of the legitimacy of their search for Eli's successor.
RE: I know of Haskins only what I've read in different scouting
or show they are in on taking him at #6. As with Murray, it shows they are doing their homework on both to develop as precise a rating as they can. It isn't as binary as they are taking him or not taking him.
Suppose after all the due diligence he lands somewhere around their 10th highest prospect. They go ahead and draft an edge rusher at #6 who has much higher value to them, but then they see Haskins still sitting there at #12 while Green Bay is on the clock. If they expect Miami may take him at 13, that may cause them to put in a call to Green Bay and inquire about trading up from #17 to #12 to get Haskins.
He's a QB and if drafted he becomes the face of the franchise so you have more people involved in the evaluation of the guy, but that does not necessarily mean they desperately want him or are conducting elaborate smokescreens.
Why are we still holding on so hard to that Shurmur quote?
If you really love Haskins, you don't play games and take a chance on him falling to 17 - you take him @ 6.
I realize there are defensive players that are going to be on the board there who will be really appealing, but if you're really sold on the QB, you have to take him @ 6. Don't get cute - that's how you get burned and lose your guy.
I'm not saying Haskins is or isn't the ideal choice @ 6. But if the Giants see him as a franchise QB - 6 is not too high to take him.
I think its hilarious when people say remote thrower or emphatic no
In reference to Haskins. It makes me question whether youve actually put any work into evaluating the player or if you have your judgment in evaluating a player. Same thing happened with barkley last year people were screaming he was the next kijana carter or that he couldnt break tackles.
Im not saying you have to like haskins, but he has too many positive attributes to warrant remote thrower comments. Now if were talking daniel jones at 6 then i would understand, but Haskins is no Daniel Jones.
In comment 14348871 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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that QB draft prospects have their flaws magnified and their skills diminished. Giants are doing their due diligence. Everything else (they like him, he is off their board, they will trade up/down) is just noise.
But if Haskins were to drop like a brick, say to the 17th pick or into the second round - does he become a viable option?
I keep going back to DGs year end press conference... we need to fix the defense!!!!
I agree. It wouldn't surprise me at all.
Didn't Reese make a couple picks on players they never even met with?
These meetings mean nothing
Most of the things you mentioned (humble, grew up a Giants fan, local kid) have no bearing on anything, and the others (big and pocket passer) don't necessarily have any bearing on anything.
You have the quotes of him stating this? Thanks
This comment is ridiculous. You see the QB they keep going back to right??
So what do you think he saw in Lauletta?
Breer says he could slip to middle of the round but depends on what happens with Murray. If Murray goes #1 then another team could get antsy and trade up (mentions Jets as target spot) to get him.
Breer says he could slip to middle of the round but depends on what happens with Murray. If Murray goes #1 then another team could get antsy and trade up (mentions Jets as target spot) to get him.
I should have included, just said this now on Sirius with Ross Tucker and Charlie Weiss..
I would absolutely be on board with that.
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Shurmur has repeated several times that he prefers a mobile QB and while there's a lot to like about Haskins, he's anything but mobile.
Also highlights of Haskins show much more mobility than what they have now.
Common sense says at 21 years of age he s a better athlete than Eli
This comment is ridiculous. You see the QB they keep going back to right??
But if Haskins were to drop like a brick, say to the 17th pick or into the second round - does he become a viable option?
I hope GMEN don't take a QB just because he drops to rd 2. If they passed on him at 17 -- they can't be that high on him.
Suppose after all the due diligence he lands somewhere around their 10th highest prospect. They go ahead and draft an edge rusher at #6 who has much higher value to them, but then they see Haskins still sitting there at #12 while Green Bay is on the clock. If they expect Miami may take him at 13, that may cause them to put in a call to Green Bay and inquire about trading up from #17 to #12 to get Haskins.
He's a QB and if drafted he becomes the face of the franchise so you have more people involved in the evaluation of the guy, but that does not necessarily mean they desperately want him or are conducting elaborate smokescreens.
Just because he claims to like the added benefit of a QB that can run doesn't mean it's the deciding factor in a QB evaluation.
How would it set us back a decade? What an overreaction.
I realize there are defensive players that are going to be on the board there who will be really appealing, but if you're really sold on the QB, you have to take him @ 6. Don't get cute - that's how you get burned and lose your guy.
I'm not saying Haskins is or isn't the ideal choice @ 6. But if the Giants see him as a franchise QB - 6 is not too high to take him.
Im not saying you have to like haskins, but he has too many positive attributes to warrant remote thrower comments. Now if were talking daniel jones at 6 then i would understand, but Haskins is no Daniel Jones.
Agreed.