Have neverseen him play, but I was curious if you believe this guy, with Pro experience, could be our future franchise guy? In other words, does he have the Pro tools?
If so, my understanding is he is projected to possibly go in the 3rd (?) round.
He did not throw well at the senior bowl or combine so his stock is kinda dropping. Depends on who you ask, i think his arm strength is fine. Loved his ball placement and moxie - definitely not afraid of the big stage. One of those guys who needs to be put into the right situation for sure.
BB56, I am generally on your side as far as believing if Shurmur likes him, I can get behind it. But I do have to admit, Lauletta's complete dud of a freshman year on and off the field has me wondering if Shurmur is the QB guru we all thought he was.
People were saying Grier didn't have enough arm strength until Â
he measured highest in velocity at the combine (curtesy of Our Lads). People point out that he didn't look good throwing at the Senior Bowl and the combine, but forget he had excellent numbers during the season. I think he's as good as Haskins, though not as good as Murray.
BB56, I am generally on your side as far as believing if Shurmur likes him, I can get behind it. But I do have to admit, Lauletta's complete dud of a freshman year on and off the field has me wondering if Shurmur is the QB guru we all thought he was.
KL was a 4th round pick so I wouldn’t put all my stock in that. However, despite an horrific game against the Skins with a 100 point lead, I thinkwith a full year’s body of work and lumps, Shurmur’s expertise in that area would show, imo..We’ll probably never know?
RE: People were saying Grier didn't have enough arm strength until Â
he measured highest in velocity at the combine (curtesy of Our Lads). People point out that he didn't look good throwing at the Senior Bowl and the combine, but forget he had excellent numbers during the season. I think he's as good as Haskins, though not as good as Murray.
As far as velocity - if you had a rep for being weak armed you would throw harder. Haskins has always shown plenty of velocity, yet had one of the lesser velocities. I don't put much stock into the velocities.
Need to take advantage of one of the teams trading up to take a QB this season, they need to get their first round pick, hopefully it will be the Bengals, (since I have faith they will suck this season), then have two first rounders and two third rounders for next years draft, then get our QB in next years draft, there are three better then any this season, except for possibly Murray, but I would not use my two first rounders this season for him, I am not that confident. We have Eli another season, use this haul of draft picks to get our right tackle, build the defense, and to get a first rounder for next years draft, they do that and they hit a home run.
He's also pretty old for a rookie and has PED issues in the past.
I liked what I saw from him when I saw him play.
BB56, I am generally on your side as far as believing if Shurmur likes him, I can get behind it. But I do have to admit, Lauletta's complete dud of a freshman year on and off the field has me wondering if Shurmur is the QB guru we all thought he was.
BB56, I am generally on your side as far as believing if Shurmur likes him, I can get behind it. But I do have to admit, Lauletta's complete dud of a freshman year on and off the field has me wondering if Shurmur is the QB guru we all thought he was.
KL was a 4th round pick so I wouldn’t put all my stock in that. However, despite an horrific game against the Skins with a 100 point lead, I thinkwith a full year’s body of work and lumps, Shurmur’s expertise in that area would show, imo..We’ll probably never know?
As far as velocity - if you had a rep for being weak armed you would throw harder. Haskins has always shown plenty of velocity, yet had one of the lesser velocities. I don't put much stock into the velocities.
THAT would be worth a lot to me
I only watched a few games of Grier's last season (Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Texas) but he looked solid in all of them.
His velocity and overall measurables from the combine check a lot of boxes.
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