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nzyme : 3/20/2019 11:52 am
Just an FYI. If anyone is watching and could provide updates that would be awesome!!!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 11:52 am : link

Aditi Kinkhabwala
‏Verified account @AKinkhabwala

The #Giants contingent here at @OhioStateFB Pro Day is very strong. The folks from NJ took QB Dwayne Haskins to dinner last night and from what I was just told, were very impressed by him and his intelligence.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 11:52 am : link

Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
6m6 minutes ago

Jordan Raanan Retweeted Aditi Kinkhabwala

Asst. DB coach
Defensive coordinator
Area Scout
Director of college scouting
Offensive coordinator
Head coach
WR coach
Asst. O-line coach
Sr. VP, player personnel
Asst. general manager
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figgy2989 : 3/20/2019 11:55 am : link
In comment 14349342 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
6m6 minutes ago

Jordan Raanan Retweeted Aditi Kinkhabwala

Asst. DB coach
Defensive coordinator
Area Scout
Director of college scouting
Offensive coordinator
Head coach
WR coach
Asst. O-line coach
Sr. VP, player personnel
Asst. general manager


No DG?
anyone have a  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/20/2019 12:00 pm : link
live feed?
No rhyme or reason behind this....  
dep026 : 3/20/2019 12:04 pm : link
but I think the Giants have their eyes set on Paris Campbell.
not a big deal  
Torrag : 3/20/2019 12:06 pm : link
...but I believe it's Parris Campbell.
RE: No rhyme or reason behind this....  
figgy2989 : 3/20/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14349380 dep026 said:
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but I think the Giants have their eyes set on Paris Campbell.


Are they going to take him to the Cracker Barrel after?
....and I really liike Campbell's game  
Torrag : 3/20/2019 12:09 pm : link
To me he's the most polished and also has a really nice set of athletic tools to work with. If he was a little taller he'd be getting a lot more 1st round attention imo. I think he has that level of talent.
Campbell is a burner  
Pep22 : 3/20/2019 12:42 pm : link
but I believe Terry McClaurin (who can also fly) is a better player now and will continue to be
pep  
Torrag : 3/20/2019 12:49 pm : link
That's fine. I think Parris is smoother in and out of his breaks and is a more versatile route runner. I believe he had the better senior season and will be the better pro. Time will tell.
RE: pep  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14349456 Torrag said:
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That's fine. I think Parris is smoother in and out of his breaks and is a more versatile route runner. I believe he had the better senior season and will be the better pro. Time will tell.


Im on the Campbell train too. But 2nd to Hakeem Butler who I think will be the top WR of this class. A mix of Mike Evans and Plaxico Burress.
I'm excited  
Pep22 : 3/20/2019 1:10 pm : link
about Butler as well. I think he's the best WR in this class.
RE: No rhyme or reason behind this....  
AcidTest : 3/20/2019 1:18 pm : link
In comment 14349380 dep026 said:
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but I think the Giants have their eyes set on Paris Campbell.


Quite possibly. He needs to improve his route running, but he's an explosive player.
Live Stream Link Here  
Anando : 3/20/2019 1:20 pm : link
https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/ohio-state-football-pro-day-live/
Giants meeting with Nick Bosa today  
Rick in Dallas : 3/20/2019 1:25 pm : link
he is also meeting with 49er's today.
Bosa would be a tremendous pick but he won't fall past the 3rd pick.
RE: Live Stream Link Here  
Eli Wilson : 3/20/2019 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14349542 Anando said:
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https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/ohio-state-football-pro-day-live/


320+ viewers - how many are BBI members?
I have it NFLN on in my office...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 1:30 pm : link
Haskins is basically throwing the standard route tree right now.

Obviously no pressure and his receivers are running free - like a typical OSU game last year... ;)
Chris Mara sighting  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
Must be nice...
Unique Pro Day?  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 1:34 pm : link
Like any other pro day in the history of pro days.... What's your point?
RE: I have it NFLN on in my office...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14349568 bw in dc said:
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Haskins is basically throwing the standard route tree right now.

Obviously no pressure and his receivers are running free - like a typical OSU game last year... ;)


I don't know bw... I'm watching this and I can very easily see him in blue... but of course, I'm being told to say that.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 1:38 pm : link
Pat Shurmer and Mike Shula sighting.
Mayock eyeing him hard!!!  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 1:39 pm : link
Mayock is right behind Haskins... He's watching everything Haskins is doing right now.
That throw on the run  
ajr2456 : 3/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
He just made was impressive
RE: RE: I have it NFLN on in my office...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 1:42 pm : link
In comment 14349579 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14349568 bw in dc said:


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Haskins is basically throwing the standard route tree right now.

Obviously no pressure and his receivers are running free - like a typical OSU game last year... ;)



I don't know bw... I'm watching this and I can very easily see him in blue... but of course, I'm being told to say that.


Look, your role has morphed into a mouthpiece for Jints Central. I get it - you have a business to run and can't bite the hand that feeds you... ;)

Seriously, some of these catches by these OSU receivers are spectacular...
What????  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
I will post full video later for all to see... That's just BS I'm sorry!
Really see how big Haskins's wind up gets...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 1:44 pm : link
on these roll outs...
Like I said before...  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
I'll post the video later...
RE: What????  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14349600 nzyme said:
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I will post full video later for all to see... That's just BS I'm sorry!


What's BS?
He  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 1:49 pm : link
throws a very catchable deep ball.
RE: He  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
In comment 14349612 Eric from BBI said:
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throws a very catchable deep ball.


Agree - looking fwd to swings & screens
On the receivers...  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 1:50 pm : link
Are you saying they are making amazing catches for the pro day or the season?

If the season then how in the hell did this kid throw 50 TDs? Also why aren't any of their receivers going in the first round?
He has a solid arm and nice touch on the ball  
RobCarpenter : 3/20/2019 1:51 pm : link
But that's also obvious from watching game film on him.

The real question mark to me is how quickly he shifts his feet when pressured. I'm on the fence on Haskins right now.
The ball fires out from his hands  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 1:52 pm : link
very impressive.
This  
ajr2456 : 3/20/2019 1:52 pm : link
Is elite placement
Haskins - ( New Window )
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
Chris Mara sighting.
RE: On the receivers...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14349615 nzyme said:
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Are you saying they are making amazing catches for the pro day or the season?

If the season then how in the hell did this kid throw 50 TDs? Also why aren't any of their receivers going in the first round?


I'm saying a few of these catches in this throwing session were spectacular - that's all.

If you don't think Campbell and McLaurin aren't going at least the second round, I don't know what to tell you. There is a very good chance Campbell goes first round.
That throw rolling left really sticks out  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
Incredible.
I am not a big fan of drafting Haskins  
The 12th Man : 3/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
That said, I believe he looks very good. Throws a very nice ball.
RE: On the receivers...  
RobCarpenter : 3/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14349615 nzyme said:
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Are you saying they are making amazing catches for the pro day or the season?

If the season then how in the hell did this kid throw 50 TDs? Also why aren't any of their receivers going in the first round?


Parris Campbell could very well go in the first. McLaurin is no slouch either, he won't go in the first but he'll be taken in the middle to late rounds.
Link - ( New Window )
Does anyone think Haskins...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
looks a little gassed in this workout?
RE: RE: On the receivers...  
RobCarpenter : 3/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
In comment 14349632 RobCarpenter said:
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In comment 14349615 nzyme said:


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Are you saying they are making amazing catches for the pro day or the season?

If the season then how in the hell did this kid throw 50 TDs? Also why aren't any of their receivers going in the first round?



Parris Campbell could very well go in the first. McLaurin is no slouch either, he won't go in the first but he'll be taken in the middle to late rounds. Link - ( New Window )


Should have said McLaurin likely to go earlier.
RE: Does anyone think Haskins...  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 1:55 pm : link
In comment 14349633 bw in dc said:
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looks a little gassed in this workout?


Yes
Throws a nice fade pass  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 3/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
He's thrown like one bad pass so far.
His feet looked quicker  
Dave on the UWS : 3/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
then at the Combine. I would have liked seeing more throws off platform.
Did Haskins run the forty yet?  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 1:57 pm : link
He may run a 5.5 with the fatigue he's showing...
RE: Does anyone think Haskins...  
Kyle in NY : 3/20/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14349633 bw in dc said:
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looks a little gassed in this workout?


LMAO

I give you credit for commitment
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14349639 arcarsenal said:
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He's thrown like one bad pass so far.


I haven't seen every pass, and he's throwing against air, but he's been on target when I've watched.
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bw in dc : 3/20/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14349639 arcarsenal said:
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He's thrown like one bad pass so far.


I think he's better throwing to his right.
Done passing...  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 1:59 pm : link
good workout
Guy has thrown 100 balls in a row and isn't in good shape  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 1:59 pm : link
Big Ben would be having a Big Mac Break right now.
They have said he has issues with the fade  
The 12th Man : 3/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
He just missed one horribly. His throws to the end zone are where only his receivers can get them or no one else. Have to admit I was impressed.
I gotta BW in DC  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
How do you have the QBs ranked in order that you want for the NY Giants?
He looked great  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
great arm and anticipation.
.  
arcarsenal : 3/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
Lol, bw going for any angle he can get here...

Now it's that Haskins is gassed.

Gee, I don't know - perhaps he's sweating from throwing about 100 footballs in 20 minutes.

The dramatics!
Big Haskins fan  
Fast Eddie : 3/20/2019 2:00 pm : link
But sure looks like he needs more cardio. His gassness hasn’t affected his passing though. Kid can make every throw
I am not a Haskins guy  
dep026 : 3/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
but I figure he would kill this part of the workout. I didnt watch one throw but it seems like he did well.

Footwork is what can separate a top 5 pick from a 3rd round guy. Thats something we may just never know until he gets on the field.
I mean even the guy on NFL network was like if you want to nitpick  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 2:01 pm : link
he is getting gassed.
RE: RE: Does anyone think Haskins...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14349643 Kyle in NY said:
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In comment 14349633 bw in dc said:


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looks a little gassed in this workout?



LMAO

I give you credit for commitment


Friend of mine just texted me and said - b/c I have the sound off - that Jeremiah noticed how much Haskins is sweating vs how Murray looked in his workout.

I'm not saying he looks like he needs oxygen, but he was pretty tired with hands on his hips...
RE: RE: RE: Does anyone think Haskins...  
dep026 : 3/20/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14349659 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14349633 bw in dc said:


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looks a little gassed in this workout?



LMAO

I give you credit for commitment



Friend of mine


Most extreme thing ever said here? 😉
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GiantGrit : 3/20/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14349653 arcarsenal said:
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Lol, bw going for any angle he can get here...

Now it's that Haskins is gassed.

Gee, I don't know - perhaps he's sweating from throwing about 100 footballs in 20 minutes.

The dramatics!


^^
RE: I mean even the guy on NFL network was like if you want to nitpick  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14349657 Zeke's Alibi said:
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he is getting gassed.


Thank you. I don't have the sound on, but he looked tired.
RE: RE: RE: Does anyone think Haskins...  
figgy2989 : 3/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14349659 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14349633 bw in dc said:


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looks a little gassed in this workout?



LMAO

I give you credit for commitment



Friend of mine just texted me and said - b/c I have the sound off - that Jeremiah noticed how much Haskins is sweating vs how Murray looked in his workout.

I'm not saying he looks like he needs oxygen, but he was pretty tired with hands on his hips...


Wait a minute, you have friends?
With how DG wants to build this football team it wouldn't suprise me  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 2:04 pm : link
if Haskins is the pick if Shurmur gives his blessing.
Haskins speaking  
The 12th Man : 3/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
To PS right now
Shurmur chatting up Haskins after workout  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:05 pm : link
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He is throwing  
Joey in VA : 3/20/2019 2:06 pm : link
Like an NFL QB. Arm talent and head talent will take you places and he has plenty of both. The more I see the more I like. Up close he looks much quicker footwork wise and overall in the pocket.
I have..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/20/2019 2:06 pm : link
to give props here:

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Friend of mine just texted me and said - b/c I have the sound off - that Jeremiah noticed how much Haskins is sweating vs how Murray looked in his workout.

I'm not saying he looks like he needs oxygen, but he was pretty tired with hands on his hips...


I thought you were going to nitpick that he was hitting guys too flush in the hands so they weren't able to quickly pump their arms to get up to speed after the catch....
I still  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:06 pm : link
remember the panic after Eli Manning's first mini-camp when his first pass was nowhere near his target. If I recall correctly, his first practice was a disaster.

I only bring this up in that I can't imagine the type of pressure are on these guys at their Pro Day workouts. Everything is noticed.

Personally, I thought he did very well from what I saw (again, I didn't see every snap...sometimes the camera lost track of the ball).
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:08 pm : link
When the Giants drafted Eli, they sent EVERYONE to watch him before the draft.

I may be dead wrong, but I'm getting deja vu over this.
Let me say this about arc...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:08 pm : link
If he was Teddy Bridgewater fan he would have said Bridgewater's workout - one of the worst I have ever seen - was terrific... ;)

Watching him and Kyler Murray do interviews is like night and day.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
Guy shows intellect and is clearly a leader. Would love to know how he did on Wonderlic or the new one the AIQ.
He admitted he was heavier than his ideal weight  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
at the combine. Wants to play a 222 versus his combine weight.
I’ll say  
ajr2456 : 3/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
Haskins has it from a personality perspective
RE: Let me say this about arc...  
figgy2989 : 3/20/2019 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14349677 bw in dc said:
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If he was Teddy Bridgewater fan he would have said Bridgewater's workout - one of the worst I have ever seen - was terrific... ;)


Not to defend arc here, but he has been very adamant that he is not a Haskins guy. Who would have thunk that, someone with an unbiased opinion.
RE: Watching him and Kyler Murray do interviews is like night and day.  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14349680 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Guy shows intellect and is clearly a leader. Would love to know how he did on Wonderlic or the new one the AIQ.


Agreed.
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giants#1 : 3/20/2019 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14349676 Eric from BBI said:
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When the Giants drafted Eli, they sent EVERYONE to watch him before the draft.

I may be dead wrong, but I'm getting deja vu over this.


Didn't they send everyone to watch Rosen last year?
Shurmur  
Pete in MD : 3/20/2019 2:10 pm : link
and Mara (and two others) can't stay off camera. They are over the right shoulder of the NFL Network guy during the interview with Haskins.
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GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14349688 giants#1 said:
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In comment 14349676 Eric from BBI said:


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When the Giants drafted Eli, they sent EVERYONE to watch him before the draft.

I may be dead wrong, but I'm getting deja vu over this.



Didn't they send everyone to watch Rosen last year?


They did.
Watching this talk...  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 2:11 pm : link
He can be the face of a franchise. Whoever picks him will not have to worry about this kid!
To me..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/20/2019 2:11 pm : link
the biggest red flag about Haskins is his lack of games as a starter.

But he's about the only QB I'd want to draft this year (outside of a 4th round developmental guy)
'looks gassed'  
giants#1 : 3/20/2019 2:11 pm : link
Well if he is the pick, then that explains why they're keeping Eli, since he'll have a year of backup duty to work on his conditioning!
RE: Watching him and Kyler Murray do interviews is like night and day.  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:12 pm : link
In comment 14349680 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Guy shows intellect and is clearly a leader. Would love to know how he did on Wonderlic or the new one the AIQ.


Thinking the same thing. Murray is very unimpressive with a mic in front of him.
Sounds humble he interviews very well  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:12 pm : link
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This is the guy - I am more excited than I've been in a while Giants.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 2:13 pm : link
Talking about how he wants to show how smart he is, how charismatic he is, the leader he can be. The guy just has the it factor you look for in QB similar to Mayfield. Arm talent plus gets it mentally.

Honestly I wanted a more mobile QB because that is where the game is moving. However, if you can be extremely accurate in the short, intermediate game there is definitely a spot for pocket passers in the NFL.
A handshake and a hug from Schurmur ...  
Spider56 : 3/20/2019 2:13 pm : link
I hope PS whispered that he needs to get his butt in better shape.
I defer the throwing critique to the experts, but he came across very well in the NFLN interview. Well spoken and he seems to have his head on straight. A year with Eli and he could be ok... but stay away from the donuts.
RE: RE: RE: I have it NFLN on in my office...  
Thegratefulhead : 3/20/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14349597 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14349579 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 14349568 bw in dc said:


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Haskins is basically throwing the standard route tree right now.

Obviously no pressure and his receivers are running free - like a typical OSU game last year... ;)



I don't know bw... I'm watching this and I can very easily see him in blue... but of course, I'm being told to say that.



Look, your role has morphed into a mouthpiece for Jints Central. I get it - you have a business to run and can't bite the hand that feeds you... ;)

Seriously, some of these catches by these OSU receivers are spectacular...
FMiC is right about BW. Holy shit, he is such a tool.
RE: RE: Let me say this about arc...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14349684 figgy2989 said:
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In comment 14349677 bw in dc said:


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If he was Teddy Bridgewater fan he would have said Bridgewater's workout - one of the worst I have ever seen - was terrific... ;)




Not to defend arc here, but he has been very adamant that he is not a Haskins guy. Who would have thunk that, someone with an unbiased opinion.


arc loves Haskins. Don't let him fool you.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:14 pm : link

Charles Davis
‏Verified account @CFD22
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Nice day for @OhioStateFB QB Dwayne Haskins at his Pro Day. Big arm as expected, good footwork/movement in/out of pocket, too @NFLDraft
RE: A handshake and a hug from Schurmur ...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/20/2019 2:15 pm : link
In comment 14349701 Spider56 said:
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I hope PS whispered that he needs to get his butt in better shape.
I defer the throwing critique to the experts, but he came across very well in the NFLN interview. Well spoken and he seems to have his head on straight. A year with Eli and he could be ok... but stay away from the donuts.


Yeah - I could see a tendency there to morph into Byron Leftwich on the Donut Express!!
Who throws a better ball, Haskins or Rosen?  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:15 pm : link
I can't decide, they both seem comparable to me.
As far as intangibles  
Kyle in NY : 3/20/2019 2:16 pm : link
he checks all the boxes. Can say with first hand experience he's a smart kid, works hard, leader type, absolutely fits the bill of a franchise QB in that regard

Could certainly nitpick things on the field. Of course he had a lot of talent around him, he's a solid but not elite athlete, and he is inexperienced. He's not a perfect prospect. But he has a lot of arm talent to work with and the mental game is top notch.
"well spoken" smh  
Brown Recluse : 3/20/2019 2:16 pm : link
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RE: Who throws a better ball, Haskins or Rosen?  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14349710 GFAN52 said:
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I can't decide, they both seem comparable to me.


Rosen has a better stroke mechanically. But they both throw very catchable balls.
Haskins at 6  
Chris684 : 3/20/2019 2:17 pm : link
followed by a defensive draft the rest of the way would be too perfect.

Hopefully he sees Eli scarfing down potato chips during meetings  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
and realizes he wants to play into his 40s and cuts that out. In all seriousness though he defnietly cut some flub since the combine.
impressive  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
kid at all levels. Could easily see him being the next face of the Giants.
Football is not soccer. Especially at the QB position  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 2:18 pm : link
He'll be fine.
.  
arcarsenal : 3/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
Loves? No - but he's my favorite QB in this class, and the guy I think is the best bet. Doesn't mean I would move up to 1 for him or empty out my draft capital when I know there will be a tremendous defensive player available.

The Bridgewater stuff is just total nonsense.

bw wants Ryan Finley.. a guy who is destined to be holding a clipboard for as long as he's in the league or would prefer we trade for Jeff Driskel so he can do the same thing.

Really swinging for the fences with guys like those...
I watched both  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
Murrays and Haskins pro days... Murray was sweating also so that is normal. He did look a little more tired with his hands on his hips, but it didn't affect him at all. Feet good, hips good, movement good, etc He threw great and unlike Murray he was making throws on the run, rolling out more, etc. Probably because Murray doesn't need to show that. I will say this in watching both QBs even though I would take Murray, Haskins is a much better thrower. His deeps balls were by far better imo.
I read  
Big Rick in FL : 3/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
He was 45-50 with 4 receiver drops and he was 14-15 in the red zone.
Haskins is the guy  
crooza172 : 3/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
He impresses me more than anyone in last years class and is the total package. They need to do whatever it takes to get this kid.
Haskins looked great  
KingBlue : 3/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
If he is there at 6, he will be the selection. His arm talent was on display today. His lack of experience is the only knock... He is going to be a good one.
Ryan Day...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:19 pm : link
is going to be an NFL coach in a few years.

He's a very bright coach.
After Haskins' Performance...  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 2:20 pm : link
I would watch out for someone trading up to leapfrog the GMEN.
RE: To me..  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14349692 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the biggest red flag about Haskins is his lack of games as a starter.

But he's about the only QB I'd want to draft this year (outside of a 4th round developmental guy)


This is me exactly... If he had at least one more year starting ... Well he would probably be the number 1 pick in the draft. Still though lack of experience scares me.
RE: After Haskins' Performance...  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14349728 nzyme said:
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I would watch out for someone trading up to leapfrog the GMEN.


Very possible.
Did Haskins run the forty?  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
Or did he skip it?
RE: I read  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14349724 Big Rick in FL said:
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He was 45-50 with 4 receiver drops and he was 14-15 in the red zone.


That is also with way more movement than you see in other workouts. It was also without top WR Paris who slipped early in the work out.
Experience may be lacking but...  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 2:23 pm : link
He's so damn young that he can sit for a year and still be 2 years younger than Eli when he was drafted!
RE: Did Haskins run the forty?  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14349735 bw in dc said:
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Or did he skip it?


Skipped it.
RE: RE: Did Haskins run the forty?  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14349739 GFAN52 said:
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Or did he skip it?



Skipped it.


That shocks me honestly... He looked leaner to me and I figure they would have worked on it.
RE: RE: I read  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14349736 Amtoft said:
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He was 45-50 with 4 receiver drops and he was 14-15 in the red zone.



That is also with way more movement than you see in other workouts. It was also without top WR Paris who slipped early in the work out.


You're kidding, right? Movement is a big part of almost all QB prospects. Did you see the workouts last year by Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Darnold, in particular, was outside in the rain rolling left and right...
Don't listen to dc...  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 2:26 pm : link
They just started the damn pro day. They still have to test ALL of the players on the 40, vertical, etc...
RE: RE: RE: Did Haskins run the forty?  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14349741 Amtoft said:
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Or did he skip it?



Skipped it.



That shocks me honestly... He looked leaner to me and I figure they would have worked on it.


Not really. He said in the interview he's continuing to lose some weight and all the interested teams will have in for private workouts where they can time him.
After today, I've gone from on-the-fence  
Mike in Prescott : 3/20/2019 2:27 pm : link
to no-way-he-lasts until 6. Damn. I really want to see this kid in blue. But I think we would need to move up some to get him. Utterly impressed by his poise, composure, and accuracy today.
.  
arcarsenal : 3/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
He's pissed about the two throws he missed.

Also said he put a ton of work in on throwing on the move, moving to his left, etc. this offseason.

That rollout throw to his weak side down the left sideline was tremendous. That's a big boy NFL throw - only the WR has a shot at that ball.
RE: Don't listen to dc...  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14349748 nzyme said:
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They just started the damn pro day. They still have to test ALL of the players on the 40, vertical, etc...


And you would be wrong.
if the Clemson kid was coming out after one year  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/20/2019 2:28 pm : link
no one would be concerned. Haskins looks like the real deal IMHO.
RE: Don't listen to dc...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14349748 nzyme said:
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They just started the damn pro day. They still have to test ALL of the players on the 40, vertical, etc...


I just asked a question.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:30 pm : link

Bucky Brooks
‏Verified account @BuckyBrooks
2m2 minutes ago

Thoughts on @dh_simba7 Pro Day workout..
1. A+ arm talent
2. MLB pitcher with every pitch in the bag. Drive throws, touch, timing & anticipation.
3. Game/Arm talent fits old school systems

DH is the classic drop back passer who has dominated the league the past 30 years
40 yard dash timing  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:31 pm : link
In comment 14349760 bw in dc said:
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They just started the damn pro day. They still have to test ALL of the players on the 40, vertical, etc...



I just asked a question.



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40-yard dash
In a bit of a surprise, the only Buckeye to run the 40 was Malcolm Pridgeon — and we won’t get official 40 times from the event. Despite Dwayne Haskins saying that he’d re-do his Combine performance, it appears that he and the receivers — who all clocked excellent times — will stick by what they did in Indy.
Sorry about that..  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 2:32 pm : link
Don't post often and this forum format confuses me a bit...
RE: RE: RE: I read  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14349746 bw in dc said:
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He was 45-50 with 4 receiver drops and he was 14-15 in the red zone.



That is also with way more movement than you see in other workouts. It was also without top WR Paris who slipped early in the work out.



You're kidding, right? Movement is a big part of almost all QB prospects. Did you see the workouts last year by Darnold, Rosen and Allen. Darnold, in particular, was outside in the rain rolling left and right...


No I admit I didn't see Darnold or Rosen because I am a Pac-12 Cal fan so I have seen so many of their games. I don't normally watch Pro Day work outs except for Cals because it is a glorified practice, but I this year I wanted to see Murray's and he barely moved compared to Haskins. In fact they said Haskins did more movement passes to show he was working hard at his movement and throwing on the run and avoiding the rush. If this is standard then that is my mistake.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:33 pm : link

Louis Riddick
‏Verified account @LRiddickESPN
12m12 minutes ago

Nothing more I need to see physically from Dwayne Haskins. He has what I would want if I needed a QB. Will be talking to him on #NFLLive coming up shortly....
Impressive throwing session by Haskins  
Rick in Dallas : 3/20/2019 2:33 pm : link
Throwing technique and footwork was excellent. He is a pocket QB that can move in the pocket when necessary.
His interview was so much more at ease than Murray.
Important to Shurmur in his meeting last night is football IQ of Haskins versus Murray,
Those Ohio State Wr’s are impressive. Either one of those 3 would look great in Giant blue.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Did Haskins run the forty?  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14349749 GFAN52 said:
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Or did he skip it?



Skipped it.



That shocks me honestly... He looked leaner to me and I figure they would have worked on it.



Not really. He said in the interview he's continuing to lose some weight and all the interested teams will have in for private workouts where they can time him.


That makes sense... he looks leaner to me than at the combine.
Who cares about Haskins 40  
Big Rick in FL : 3/20/2019 2:33 pm : link
It's irrelevant for him. That's not his game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I have it NFLN on in my office...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:34 pm : link
In comment 14349703 Thegratefulhead said:
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FMiC is right about BW. Holy shit, he is such a tool.


I've known Eric for a while. We used to watch games together. So he knows I'm busting his chops.

Any shot Arizona takes him?  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 2:35 pm : link
That pro day was impressive. Any chance you guys think Arizona takes him over Murray?
RE: Any shot Arizona takes him?  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14349777 nzyme said:
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That pro day was impressive. Any chance you guys think Arizona takes him over Murray?


Nope, Murray is a lock for the offense their new coach is going to run.
guys  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:36 pm : link
bw in dc is a good guy. You've just got to understand his MO. On football matters, he is old school and is often proved correct.
...  
BleedBlue : 3/20/2019 2:37 pm : link
haskins did look slim by comparison to combine.

one thing that hasnt changed...his ball placement is REALLY good
I want to try and find the thread  
figgy2989 : 3/20/2019 2:37 pm : link
Everyone watched Darnold's pro day last year and afterwards, the consensus was he was there was no way the Browns weren't going to take him. He was the sure fire number 1 pick.

If there is a team out there that wants to jump in front of the Giants to get him and the Cards take Murray, that means another one of the top defenders drops a spot.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I have it NFLN on in my office...  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14349776 bw in dc said:
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FMiC is right about BW. Holy shit, he is such a tool.



I've known Eric for a while. We used to watch games together. So he knows I'm busting his chops.


bw is very knowledgeable, has been around forever, and knows football. He knows Pac-12 better than most really.
.  
arcarsenal : 3/20/2019 2:39 pm : link
I have no problem with bw - I disagree with him a lot, but it's not personal, we bust eachother's balls. It is what it is.

He's like a fly on shit when it comes to Haskins and making sure there's a way to debunk every single area where he's being looked at in a positive light - so, there's that. :)

But I got nothing against him.
RE: .  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14349754 arcarsenal said:
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He's pissed about the two throws he missed.

Also said he put a ton of work in on throwing on the move, moving to his left, etc. this offseason.

That rollout throw to his weak side down the left sideline was tremendous. That's a big boy NFL throw - only the WR has a shot at that ball.


Yup
Has any QB ever had a bad pro day?  
jeff57 : 3/20/2019 2:40 pm : link
Amazing what they can do when there's no defense on the field.
Who would be realistic competition for Haskins?  
Chris684 : 3/20/2019 2:40 pm : link
Denver, Miami, Washington and Cincy?

All with the exception of Cincy brought in a veteran, but doesn't mean they couldn't make a move to draft the future.

I'm inclined to believe Miami and Denver wait it out until 2020.

Washington I have no idea.

Cincy is rumored to like Haskins with the Red Rocket firing blanks.

The good thing is, if NYG likes DH, due to the quantity and quality of their picks, they would be hard to match in terms of making an offer.
RE: Has any QB ever had a bad pro day?  
Chris684 : 3/20/2019 2:42 pm : link
In comment 14349795 jeff57 said:
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Amazing what they can do when there's no defense on the field.


To be fair, people were hyperventilating over Sam Darnold throwing in the rain last year
RE: ...  
BillT : 3/20/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14349763 Eric from BBI said:
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Bucky Brooks
þVerified account @BuckyBrooks
2m2 minutes ago

Thoughts on @dh_simba7 Pro Day workout..
1. A+ arm talent
2. MLB pitcher with every pitch in the bag. Drive throws, touch, timing & anticipation.
3. Game/Arm talent fits old school systems

DH is the classic drop back passer who has dominated the league the past 30 years

Sign me up. Only Murray dropping to 6 would change that.
RE: Who would be realistic competition for Haskins?  
giants#1 : 3/20/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14349799 Chris684 said:
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Denver, Miami, Washington and Cincy?

All with the exception of Cincy brought in a veteran, but doesn't mean they couldn't make a move to draft the future.

I'm inclined to believe Miami and Denver wait it out until 2020.

Washington I have no idea.

Cincy is rumored to like Haskins with the Red Rocket firing blanks.

The good thing is, if NYG likes DH, due to the quantity and quality of their picks, they would be hard to match in terms of making an offer.


Miami is supposedly all in on the tank.

Denver and Elway reportedly like Lock, though who knows if they're even interested after acquiring Flacco.

RE: Has any QB ever had a bad pro day?  
arcarsenal : 3/20/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14349795 jeff57 said:
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Amazing what they can do when there's no defense on the field.


It's about ball placement, mechanics, platform throws, etc.

Yes, QB's have had poor pro days or not hit on a lot of their throws.

I hadn't watched many of them for most of Eli's career, because I knew we weren't looking at QB's at all then. But there have been poor pro days.

They're obviously set up so the QB can showcase his best throwing attributes - but for guys who struggle with certain routes/ball placements, you'll usually see that rear its head.
You also have to factor that between now and then  
Chris684 : 3/20/2019 2:44 pm : link
a team that feels it has a need at QB, is going to make a move for Josh Rosen, so probably one less DH suitor.
It was a far camera angle, but Shurmur's body language  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 2:45 pm : link
towards the guy seems like someone he likes very much.
The most glaring..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/20/2019 2:48 pm : link
Pro Day that was panned was Teddy Bridgewater's.

Kind of came to fruition.
RE: Has any QB ever had a bad pro day?  
Giants38 : 3/20/2019 2:49 pm : link
In comment 14349795 jeff57 said:
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Amazing what they can do when there's no defense on the field.


Teddy Bridgewater is a QB I remember having a terrible pro day. And he slipped because of it.
I think Haskins would be a great fit for timeline reasons  
SHO'NUFF : 3/20/2019 2:52 pm : link
Due to his lack of experience, I can see him sitting behind Eli for 2 years and learning everything, like Aaron Rodgers.
Daniel Jeremiah - Redskins with a big showing...  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 2:53 pm : link
Just said the Redskins showed up in force as well....
RE: I think Haskins would be a great fit for timeline reasons  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14349836 SHO'NUFF said:
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Due to his lack of experience, I can see him sitting behind Eli for 2 years and learning everything, like Aaron Rodgers.


You don't sit a QB for two years. That is a terrible waste of rookie contract in the current CBA. If we draft Haskins this year is Eli's swan song. And honestly if we catch Shurmur mouthing throw the ball again he won't make it through the full year.
RE: RE: Has any QB ever had a bad pro day?  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14349827 Giants38 said:
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Amazing what they can do when there's no defense on the field.



Teddy Bridgewater is a QB I remember having a terrible pro day. And he slipped because of it.


Still went in the first round - last pick. Hard to ever know what the true impact was.

But his pro day was absolutely atrocious. Although I was fond of him because of his movement, Lamar Jackson's wasn't that special. He was just so lackadaisical and chill. Seemed to be really just going through the motions...
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:59 pm : link

Adam Schefter
‏Verified account @AdamSchefter
4m4 minutes ago

In the coming days, Ohio State QB Dwayne Haskins is scheduled to work out for Raiders and Dolphins in Columbus, and then he’s also scheduled to visit the Redskins, Broncos and Giants, per league sources.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:59 pm : link

Aditi Kinkhabwala
‏Verified account @AKinkhabwala
1m1 minute ago

Dwayne Haskins told @MoveTheSticks and I that meeting w/ the Giants was “awesome... We had some good talks, ate some good food and it was a great experience." Said he’s meeting w/ #Broncos, #Raiders, #Dolphins and #Redskins next.
RE: ...  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14349850 Eric from BBI said:
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Adam Schefter
‏Verified account @AdamSchefter
4m4 minutes ago

In the coming days, Ohio State QB Dwayne Haskins is scheduled to work out for Raiders and Dolphins in Columbus, and then he’s also scheduled to visit the Redskins, Broncos and Giants, per league sources.


Raiders, Redskins, and Dolphins all potential to steal him.
RE: Daniel Jeremiah - Redskins with a big showing...  
Brown Recluse : 3/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14349841 nzyme said:
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Just said the Redskins showed up in force as well....


Can you imagine if the Giants want Haskins and get blocked by the Redskins who trade up and grab him instead?

I worry about the Raiders stealing him.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
We know how Chucky feels about his QB's. Dolphins seem to be all in on the tank for Tua. And we can easily match any Redskins trade package.
Impressive workout  
Lines of Scrimmage : 3/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
Big time NFL arm. Seemed like to can handle some boots as part of play action scheme while maintaining accuracy.

Might need to go to move up if the Giants see him as a franchise guy.

I could see good ole TC making a play for him. Yes he signed Foles, but that would not stop him if he saw a franchise guy imo.

This guy seems perfect for a heavy run team that wants to run play action while taking some shots down field.

RE: RE: Daniel Jeremiah - Redskins with a big showing...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
In comment 14349854 Brown Recluse said:
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Just said the Redskins showed up in force as well....



Can you imagine if the Giants want Haskins and get blocked by the Redskins who trade up and grab him instead?


One thing about the Skins, they are desperate for a QB with Smith likely never playing again. Keenum is nothing but a stop-gap.
RE: Shurmur  
SHO'NUFF : 3/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14349689 Pete in MD said:
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and Mara (and two others) can't stay off camera. They are over the right shoulder of the NFL Network guy during the interview with Haskins.


This is a brilliant strategic move. Nice smokescreen!
RE: RE: Shurmur  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14349867 SHO'NUFF said:
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In comment 14349689 Pete in MD said:


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and Mara (and two others) can't stay off camera. They are over the right shoulder of the NFL Network guy during the interview with Haskins.



This is a brilliant strategic move. Nice smokescreen!


I turned it off. Is it John or Chris?
Anyone remember how giddy Tommy C was around Eli in the draft process  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
Shurmur is giving me that same vibe around Haskins.
RE: ...  
SHO'NUFF : 3/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14349852 Eric from BBI said:
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Aditi Kinkhabwala
‏Verified account @AKinkhabwala
1m1 minute ago

Dwayne Haskins told @MoveTheSticks and I that meeting w/ the Giants was “awesome... We had some good talks, ate some good food and it was a great experience." Said he’s meeting w/ #Broncos, #Raiders, #Dolphins and #Redskins next.


Haskins mentioned "Good food". That's a red flag.
So how far do we have to move up  
eli4life : 3/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
To get the kid?
I think Rosen winds up with one of  
Chris684 : 3/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
Washington or Denver.

I have a hard time seeing the Raiders moving on from Carr at this point and Chucky's reputation is to rehab veterans more than it is develop rookies.

Cincinnati could be a dark horse.

Miami ultimately waits for 2020.
RE: RE: ...  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14349873 SHO'NUFF said:
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In comment 14349852 Eric from BBI said:


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Aditi Kinkhabwala
‏Verified account @AKinkhabwala
1m1 minute ago

Dwayne Haskins told @MoveTheSticks and I that meeting w/ the Giants was “awesome... We had some good talks, ate some good food and it was a great experience." Said he’s meeting w/ #Broncos, #Raiders, #Dolphins and #Redskins next.



Haskins mentioned "Good food". That's a red flag.


Interesting draft changes at the top if the Raiders took Haskins. Makes sense with the Dolphins and Redskins interest.
RE: Anyone remember how giddy Tommy C was around Eli in the draft process  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14349872 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Shurmur is giving me that same vibe around Haskins.


Why?
Gruden is kind of a wild card in this  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
but I think his preference for working with vets and a top of the draft stocked with defensive playmakers prevents them from taking a QB
Pan-handler  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
Shurmur was all over Haskins... and visa versa...
RE: Pan-handler  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14349895 Eric from BBI said:
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Shurmur was all over Haskins... and visa versa...


Definitely a nice relationship there.
RE: Gruden is kind of a wild card in this  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14349893 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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but I think his preference for working with vets and a top of the draft stocked with defensive playmakers prevents them from taking a QB


I remember watching Gruden do his QB Camp show on ESPN when Carr was a draft prospect. He was effusive with praise about Carr and it seemed genuine. So I think he likes what he has there, but needs to add better support...
If the Raiders select  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
Haskins then we have a legit shot at Bosa, Q Williams, or Josh Allen. I can see Tampa Bay taking a Devin White.
RE: Pan-handler  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14349895 Eric from BBI said:
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Shurmur was all over Haskins... and visa versa...


It's not just me right? Like even the body language and everything when they are talking seems to be like this is the guy I want to work with and stake my career.
Haskins  
BigBlueCane : 3/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
is the guy the Giants brass are talking themselves into taking now as their franchise QB.
Have any asshats chimed in on Haskins yet?  
Chris684 : 3/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
..
Zeke's Alibi  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
They're acting like they are already together.
Zeke's Alibi  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
To the point that if the Skins trade up to draft him, I could see a very sullen Haskins on the stage.
Eric or anyone who watched Rosen's pro day last year  
Mike in Prescott : 3/20/2019 3:28 pm : link
I've heard we had the whole army out to watch that day as well. Can anyone say from their observation how Shurmer/Shula/Gettleman's body language/non-verbals looked after watching that one? Or even at Darnold's?

I am just curious if we have a point of comparison from last year.
RE: Eric or anyone who watched Rosen's pro day last year  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14349932 Mike in Prescott said:
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I've heard we had the whole army out to watch that day as well. Can anyone say from their observation how Shurmer/Shula/Gettleman's body language/non-verbals looked after watching that one? Or even at Darnold's?

I am just curious if we have a point of comparison from last year.


I didn't see it.
I don't think  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
they liked the QBs last year.
RE: Zeke's Alibi  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14349921 Eric from BBI said:
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They're acting like they are already together.


Yeh I'm getting fucking excited watching them cavort. It just feels like this it, the next face of the franchise, and I'm all aboard. Mayfield was my guy last year, but I knew that was never happening, this year it is Haskins. I like Murray, but something about his attitude/IQ tells me he's missing that unquantifiable it. Will flash based on his talent and athletic ability, but never gets over that hump.
On the flipside, Haskins screams to me can't miss prospect. He is the type of QB that college hasn't been producing. Guys that can really on their legs tend to use it as a crutch and never progress like they should. Even when Haskins can run he doesn't. He wants to throw the ball.
They were front and center  
BIG FRED 1973 : 3/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
for Darnolds pro day
Zeke  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
Problem is, you just never know. I've seen too many "can't miss" guys miss. You do the best you can do.

The issues with Haskins are obvious... he's only played in a handful of games. He had a great team around him including a great OL. That makes things easier.
I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.
RE: I don't think  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14349937 Amtoft said:
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they liked the QBs last year.


I think by Darnold’s pro day in the rain the Giants were already comfortable with SB and the thinking was Darnold was going to the Browns.
Redskins  
Professor Falken : 3/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
have the 15th pick. They'd have to give away the farm to leapfrog the Giants. Then again, they are dumb enough so...
RE: Zeke  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14349945 Eric from BBI said:
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Problem is, you just never know. I've seen too many "can't miss" guys miss. You do the best you can do.

The issues with Haskins are obvious... he's only played in a handful of games. He had a great team around him including a great OL. That makes things easier.


I don't think that OL was great at all. Go watch the vs Penn State or Michigan or TCU etc. He had a ton of pressure against him all season. In fact he faced 6 of the top 51 Def this year throwing for like 1900+ yards 19 TDs and 2 Int which one was a tip ball of the WRs hands.
Probably the Jets at 3 would be the spot to move to?  
Eli Wilson : 3/20/2019 3:38 pm : link
I don't think the 49ers will trade out of 2 and miss out on Bosa.
RE: I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14349948 Zeke's Alibi said:
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We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.


If the Redskins or another team offered next years 2020 1st in addition to this years 1st I could see them topping the Giants. I don’t see DG spending 2020 picks.
I will still say  
BIG FRED 1973 : 3/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
that Ryan Day is having an impact on this with Shurmur since they are very close .Shurmur has gotten all the info he needs on DH from Day months ago
RE: Zeke  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14349945 Eric from BBI said:
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Problem is, you just never know. I've seen too many "can't miss" guys miss. You do the best you can do.

The issues with Haskins are obvious... he's only played in a handful of games. He had a great team around him including a great OL. That makes things easier.


Can't Miss determined by who? With the attitude, IQ, and arm talent the guy has its hard not seeing him be a starting NFL QB in this league. Maybe he never becomes a special QB I can buy that, I'm just not seeing how he isn't going to be an average starting NFL QB for the majority of his career.
RE: RE: I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14349958 GFAN52 said:
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We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.



If the Redskins or another team offered next years 2020 1st in addition to this years 1st I could see them topping the Giants. I don’t see DG spending 2020 picks.


That is a pretty big move up... I don't think they do that especially after RG3 cost them many years. They got lucky that year also drafting Cousins.
RE: RE: I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:42 pm : link
In comment 14349958 GFAN52 said:
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We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.



If the Redskins or another team offered next years 2020 1st in addition to this years 1st I could see them topping the Giants. I don’t see DG spending 2020 picks.


Our 6 + 17 has a higher worth than Redksins 1st this year and next.
RE: RE: RE: I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14349965 Zeke's Alibi said:
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We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.



If the Redskins or another team offered next years 2020 1st in addition to this years 1st I could see them topping the Giants. I don’t see DG spending 2020 picks.



Our 6 + 17 has a higher worth than Redksins 1st this year and next.


It wouldn't cost that much... it would cost probably our 2nd this year and 2nd next year... still don't think we move up unless it is a 3rd or less.
Zeke  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:44 pm : link
I don't see the Giants giving up both their #1s for Haskins.
Zeke  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
I could probably list 100 players off of the top of my head who were supposed to be "can't miss".

RE: Eric or anyone who watched Rosen's pro day last year  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
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I've heard we had the whole army out to watch that day as well. Can anyone say from their observation how Shurmer/Shula/Gettleman's body language/non-verbals looked after watching that one? Or even at Darnold's?

I am just curious if we have a point of comparison from last year.


I watched Rosen's and Darnold's

Rosen was like watching the making of "How to Play QB" video. He was expected to look good and he did. It was outside at UCLA. Did a lot of play-action stuff with rollouts to both sides. Looked like a natural doing it. Frankly, I don't recall seeing any of the brass...

RE: Zeke  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14349968 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't see the Giants giving up both their #1s for Haskins.


I would hope not, given the defensive needs.
RE: Zeke  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14349968 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't see the Giants giving up both their #1s for Haskins.


I think your're right. I think they really like Cody Ford in that spot. However, if he's the guy, he's the guy and we know DG comes from the Accorsi school. You give up what you have to when you've identified him.
RE: RE: Eric or anyone who watched Rosen's pro day last year  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14349974 bw in dc said:
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I've heard we had the whole army out to watch that day as well. Can anyone say from their observation how Shurmer/Shula/Gettleman's body language/non-verbals looked after watching that one? Or even at Darnold's?

I am just curious if we have a point of comparison from last year.



I watched Rosen's and Darnold's

Rosen was like watching the making of "How to Play QB" video. He was expected to look good and he did. It was outside at UCLA. Did a lot of play-action stuff with rollouts to both sides. Looked like a natural doing it. Frankly, I don't recall seeing any of the brass...


They were there. In fact they had a private workout with him prior to the pro day.
RE: Zeke  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14349972 Eric from BBI said:
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I could probably list 100 players off of the top of my head who were supposed to be "can't miss".


Sure by other people. I don't take stock into how other people rate can't miss, mostly cause I believe it is a super overused word. If you aren't hitting over 80 percent on your own personal can't miss prospects I think you are overusing that word.
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Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14349979 Zeke's Alibi said:
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I don't see the Giants giving up both their #1s for Haskins.



I think your're right. I think they really like Cody Ford in that spot. However, if he's the guy, he's the guy and we know DG comes from the Accorsi school. You give up what you have to when you've identified him.


Just look at last year... to move from 6 to 4 or 3 won't cost nearly what you are talking.
It cost the Jets 3 2nds.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:51 pm : link
That is worth significatly more than the 17.
RE: RE: RE: Eric or anyone who watched Rosen's pro day last year  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 3:52 pm : link
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They were there. In fact they had a private workout with him prior to the pro day.


I don't doubt it. I just don't remember seeing them. I remember seeing some old guy there for the Pats. For a second, I thought it was Ernie Adams, their PM for Belichick's special needs. But I don't think it was. Made sense, because there was talk that the Pats were very interested and might trade up...
RE: It cost the Jets 3 2nds.  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:54 pm : link
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That is worth significatly more than the 17.


They went from 6 to 3 in a QB heavy draft... that means you pay more. Won't cost that much this year.
RE: RE: It cost the Jets 3 2nds.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14350001 Amtoft said:
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That is worth significatly more than the 17.



They went from 6 to 3 in a QB heavy draft... that means you pay more. Won't cost that much this year.


Teams always overpay to move up for QB, doesn't matter if it is QB heavy draft or not. This year is a bit different because there are less teams looking and if it costs us anymore than 17 or two seconds we should pass. Mostly because the other teams looking to trade up or so far down in draft position it would take a severe overpay for them to get there.
did haskins do any running drills?  
ron mexico : 3/20/2019 4:12 pm : link
40 or 3 cone?
RE: did haskins do any running drills?  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 4:14 pm : link
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40 or 3 cone?


No... Someone mentioned he was still getting in even better shape after coming into the combine to big. Said he will run for teams at their visits if they want him too.
RE: did haskins do any running drills?  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 4:16 pm : link
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40 or 3 cone?


No, neither did most of the other OSU players
RE: RE: It cost the Jets 3 2nds.  
Mike in NJ : 3/20/2019 4:17 pm : link
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That is worth significatly more than the 17.



They went from 6 to 3 in a QB heavy draft... that means you pay more. Won't cost that much this year.


To move from 6 to 3 we would be dealing with the same team that made that exact move last year, they aren't taking less than what they had to give up.
RE: RE: did haskins do any running drills?  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 4:20 pm : link
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40 or 3 cone?



No, neither did most of the other OSU players


I'm not surprised. That looked like a very slow field.
RE: RE: RE: It cost the Jets 3 2nds.  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 4:21 pm : link
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That is worth significatly more than the 17.



They went from 6 to 3 in a QB heavy draft... that means you pay more. Won't cost that much this year.



To move from 6 to 3 we would be dealing with the same team that made that exact move last year, they aren't taking less than what they had to give up.


You take what you can get. If they truly want to move then you can't get what you can't get.
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AcidTest : 3/20/2019 4:28 pm : link
don't see the Giants moving up for Haskins, except maybe to #5. The cost would be tremendous, and we have so many other holes. But that workout was incredible, and I think increases the chance the Giants would take him at #6.

I have the same concerns that have already been mentioned, namely that he has started so few games, frequently had all day to throw, and isn't particularly mobile. But the enormous contingent of Giants and their constant attention do seem to indicate that he's the favorite at #6.
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