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nzyme : 3/20/2019 11:52 am
Just an FYI. If anyone is watching and could provide updates that would be awesome!!!
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RE: RE: Has any QB ever had a bad pro day?  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14349827 Giants38 said:
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In comment 14349795 jeff57 said:


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Amazing what they can do when there's no defense on the field.



Teddy Bridgewater is a QB I remember having a terrible pro day. And he slipped because of it.


Still went in the first round - last pick. Hard to ever know what the true impact was.

But his pro day was absolutely atrocious. Although I was fond of him because of his movement, Lamar Jackson's wasn't that special. He was just so lackadaisical and chill. Seemed to be really just going through the motions...
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:59 pm : link

Adam Schefter
‏Verified account @AdamSchefter
4m4 minutes ago

In the coming days, Ohio State QB Dwayne Haskins is scheduled to work out for Raiders and Dolphins in Columbus, and then he’s also scheduled to visit the Redskins, Broncos and Giants, per league sources.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 2:59 pm : link

Aditi Kinkhabwala
‏Verified account @AKinkhabwala
1m1 minute ago

Dwayne Haskins told @MoveTheSticks and I that meeting w/ the Giants was “awesome... We had some good talks, ate some good food and it was a great experience." Said he’s meeting w/ #Broncos, #Raiders, #Dolphins and #Redskins next.
RE: ...  
nzyme : 3/20/2019 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14349850 Eric from BBI said:
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Adam Schefter
‏Verified account @AdamSchefter
4m4 minutes ago

In the coming days, Ohio State QB Dwayne Haskins is scheduled to work out for Raiders and Dolphins in Columbus, and then he’s also scheduled to visit the Redskins, Broncos and Giants, per league sources.


Raiders, Redskins, and Dolphins all potential to steal him.
RE: Daniel Jeremiah - Redskins with a big showing...  
Brown Recluse : 3/20/2019 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14349841 nzyme said:
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Just said the Redskins showed up in force as well....


Can you imagine if the Giants want Haskins and get blocked by the Redskins who trade up and grab him instead?

I worry about the Raiders stealing him.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
We know how Chucky feels about his QB's. Dolphins seem to be all in on the tank for Tua. And we can easily match any Redskins trade package.
Impressive workout  
Lines of Scrimmage : 3/20/2019 3:03 pm : link
Big time NFL arm. Seemed like to can handle some boots as part of play action scheme while maintaining accuracy.

Might need to go to move up if the Giants see him as a franchise guy.

I could see good ole TC making a play for him. Yes he signed Foles, but that would not stop him if he saw a franchise guy imo.

This guy seems perfect for a heavy run team that wants to run play action while taking some shots down field.

RE: RE: Daniel Jeremiah - Redskins with a big showing...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 3:06 pm : link
In comment 14349854 Brown Recluse said:
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Just said the Redskins showed up in force as well....



Can you imagine if the Giants want Haskins and get blocked by the Redskins who trade up and grab him instead?


One thing about the Skins, they are desperate for a QB with Smith likely never playing again. Keenum is nothing but a stop-gap.
RE: Shurmur  
SHO'NUFF : 3/20/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14349689 Pete in MD said:
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and Mara (and two others) can't stay off camera. They are over the right shoulder of the NFL Network guy during the interview with Haskins.


This is a brilliant strategic move. Nice smokescreen!
RE: RE: Shurmur  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14349867 SHO'NUFF said:
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In comment 14349689 Pete in MD said:


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and Mara (and two others) can't stay off camera. They are over the right shoulder of the NFL Network guy during the interview with Haskins.



This is a brilliant strategic move. Nice smokescreen!


I turned it off. Is it John or Chris?
Anyone remember how giddy Tommy C was around Eli in the draft process  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
Shurmur is giving me that same vibe around Haskins.
RE: ...  
SHO'NUFF : 3/20/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14349852 Eric from BBI said:
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Aditi Kinkhabwala
‏Verified account @AKinkhabwala
1m1 minute ago

Dwayne Haskins told @MoveTheSticks and I that meeting w/ the Giants was “awesome... We had some good talks, ate some good food and it was a great experience." Said he’s meeting w/ #Broncos, #Raiders, #Dolphins and #Redskins next.


Haskins mentioned "Good food". That's a red flag.
So how far do we have to move up  
eli4life : 3/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
To get the kid?
I think Rosen winds up with one of  
Chris684 : 3/20/2019 3:13 pm : link
Washington or Denver.

I have a hard time seeing the Raiders moving on from Carr at this point and Chucky's reputation is to rehab veterans more than it is develop rookies.

Cincinnati could be a dark horse.

Miami ultimately waits for 2020.
RE: RE: ...  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14349873 SHO'NUFF said:
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In comment 14349852 Eric from BBI said:


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Aditi Kinkhabwala
‏Verified account @AKinkhabwala
1m1 minute ago

Dwayne Haskins told @MoveTheSticks and I that meeting w/ the Giants was “awesome... We had some good talks, ate some good food and it was a great experience." Said he’s meeting w/ #Broncos, #Raiders, #Dolphins and #Redskins next.



Haskins mentioned "Good food". That's a red flag.


Interesting draft changes at the top if the Raiders took Haskins. Makes sense with the Dolphins and Redskins interest.
RE: Anyone remember how giddy Tommy C was around Eli in the draft process  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14349872 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Shurmur is giving me that same vibe around Haskins.


Why?
Gruden is kind of a wild card in this  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2019 3:17 pm : link
but I think his preference for working with vets and a top of the draft stocked with defensive playmakers prevents them from taking a QB
Pan-handler  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:18 pm : link
Shurmur was all over Haskins... and visa versa...
RE: Pan-handler  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14349895 Eric from BBI said:
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Shurmur was all over Haskins... and visa versa...


Definitely a nice relationship there.
RE: Gruden is kind of a wild card in this  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14349893 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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but I think his preference for working with vets and a top of the draft stocked with defensive playmakers prevents them from taking a QB


I remember watching Gruden do his QB Camp show on ESPN when Carr was a draft prospect. He was effusive with praise about Carr and it seemed genuine. So I think he likes what he has there, but needs to add better support...
If the Raiders select  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
Haskins then we have a legit shot at Bosa, Q Williams, or Josh Allen. I can see Tampa Bay taking a Devin White.
RE: Pan-handler  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14349895 Eric from BBI said:
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Shurmur was all over Haskins... and visa versa...


It's not just me right? Like even the body language and everything when they are talking seems to be like this is the guy I want to work with and stake my career.
Haskins  
BigBlueCane : 3/20/2019 3:23 pm : link
is the guy the Giants brass are talking themselves into taking now as their franchise QB.
Have any asshats chimed in on Haskins yet?  
Chris684 : 3/20/2019 3:24 pm : link
..
Zeke's Alibi  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
They're acting like they are already together.
Zeke's Alibi  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:25 pm : link
To the point that if the Skins trade up to draft him, I could see a very sullen Haskins on the stage.
Eric or anyone who watched Rosen's pro day last year  
Mike in Prescott : 3/20/2019 3:28 pm : link
I've heard we had the whole army out to watch that day as well. Can anyone say from their observation how Shurmer/Shula/Gettleman's body language/non-verbals looked after watching that one? Or even at Darnold's?

I am just curious if we have a point of comparison from last year.
RE: Eric or anyone who watched Rosen's pro day last year  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14349932 Mike in Prescott said:
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I've heard we had the whole army out to watch that day as well. Can anyone say from their observation how Shurmer/Shula/Gettleman's body language/non-verbals looked after watching that one? Or even at Darnold's?

I am just curious if we have a point of comparison from last year.


I didn't see it.
I don't think  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:30 pm : link
they liked the QBs last year.
RE: Zeke's Alibi  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14349921 Eric from BBI said:
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They're acting like they are already together.


Yeh I'm getting fucking excited watching them cavort. It just feels like this it, the next face of the franchise, and I'm all aboard. Mayfield was my guy last year, but I knew that was never happening, this year it is Haskins. I like Murray, but something about his attitude/IQ tells me he's missing that unquantifiable it. Will flash based on his talent and athletic ability, but never gets over that hump.
On the flipside, Haskins screams to me can't miss prospect. He is the type of QB that college hasn't been producing. Guys that can really on their legs tend to use it as a crutch and never progress like they should. Even when Haskins can run he doesn't. He wants to throw the ball.
They were front and center  
BIG FRED 1973 : 3/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
for Darnolds pro day
Zeke  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
Problem is, you just never know. I've seen too many "can't miss" guys miss. You do the best you can do.

The issues with Haskins are obvious... he's only played in a handful of games. He had a great team around him including a great OL. That makes things easier.
I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:35 pm : link
We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.
RE: I don't think  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14349937 Amtoft said:
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they liked the QBs last year.


I think by Darnold’s pro day in the rain the Giants were already comfortable with SB and the thinking was Darnold was going to the Browns.
Redskins  
Professor Falken : 3/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
have the 15th pick. They'd have to give away the farm to leapfrog the Giants. Then again, they are dumb enough so...
RE: Zeke  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14349945 Eric from BBI said:
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Problem is, you just never know. I've seen too many "can't miss" guys miss. You do the best you can do.

The issues with Haskins are obvious... he's only played in a handful of games. He had a great team around him including a great OL. That makes things easier.


I don't think that OL was great at all. Go watch the vs Penn State or Michigan or TCU etc. He had a ton of pressure against him all season. In fact he faced 6 of the top 51 Def this year throwing for like 1900+ yards 19 TDs and 2 Int which one was a tip ball of the WRs hands.
Probably the Jets at 3 would be the spot to move to?  
Eli Wilson : 3/20/2019 3:38 pm : link
I don't think the 49ers will trade out of 2 and miss out on Bosa.
RE: I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14349948 Zeke's Alibi said:
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We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.


If the Redskins or another team offered next years 2020 1st in addition to this years 1st I could see them topping the Giants. I don’t see DG spending 2020 picks.
I will still say  
BIG FRED 1973 : 3/20/2019 3:39 pm : link
that Ryan Day is having an impact on this with Shurmur since they are very close .Shurmur has gotten all the info he needs on DH from Day months ago
RE: Zeke  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14349945 Eric from BBI said:
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Problem is, you just never know. I've seen too many "can't miss" guys miss. You do the best you can do.

The issues with Haskins are obvious... he's only played in a handful of games. He had a great team around him including a great OL. That makes things easier.


Can't Miss determined by who? With the attitude, IQ, and arm talent the guy has its hard not seeing him be a starting NFL QB in this league. Maybe he never becomes a special QB I can buy that, I'm just not seeing how he isn't going to be an average starting NFL QB for the majority of his career.
RE: RE: I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14349958 GFAN52 said:
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We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.



If the Redskins or another team offered next years 2020 1st in addition to this years 1st I could see them topping the Giants. I don’t see DG spending 2020 picks.


That is a pretty big move up... I don't think they do that especially after RG3 cost them many years. They got lucky that year also drafting Cousins.
RE: RE: I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:42 pm : link
In comment 14349958 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 14349948 Zeke's Alibi said:


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We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.



If the Redskins or another team offered next years 2020 1st in addition to this years 1st I could see them topping the Giants. I don’t see DG spending 2020 picks.


Our 6 + 17 has a higher worth than Redksins 1st this year and next.
RE: RE: RE: I'm not worries about the Redskins.  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14349965 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14349948 Zeke's Alibi said:


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We can match any package they can put together unless they give up like 3 number 1s.



If the Redskins or another team offered next years 2020 1st in addition to this years 1st I could see them topping the Giants. I don’t see DG spending 2020 picks.



Our 6 + 17 has a higher worth than Redksins 1st this year and next.


It wouldn't cost that much... it would cost probably our 2nd this year and 2nd next year... still don't think we move up unless it is a 3rd or less.
Zeke  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:44 pm : link
I don't see the Giants giving up both their #1s for Haskins.
Zeke  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
I could probably list 100 players off of the top of my head who were supposed to be "can't miss".

RE: Eric or anyone who watched Rosen's pro day last year  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14349932 Mike in Prescott said:
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I've heard we had the whole army out to watch that day as well. Can anyone say from their observation how Shurmer/Shula/Gettleman's body language/non-verbals looked after watching that one? Or even at Darnold's?

I am just curious if we have a point of comparison from last year.


I watched Rosen's and Darnold's

Rosen was like watching the making of "How to Play QB" video. He was expected to look good and he did. It was outside at UCLA. Did a lot of play-action stuff with rollouts to both sides. Looked like a natural doing it. Frankly, I don't recall seeing any of the brass...

RE: Zeke  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14349968 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't see the Giants giving up both their #1s for Haskins.


I would hope not, given the defensive needs.
RE: Zeke  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14349968 Eric from BBI said:
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I don't see the Giants giving up both their #1s for Haskins.


I think your're right. I think they really like Cody Ford in that spot. However, if he's the guy, he's the guy and we know DG comes from the Accorsi school. You give up what you have to when you've identified him.
RE: RE: Eric or anyone who watched Rosen's pro day last year  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14349974 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14349932 Mike in Prescott said:


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I've heard we had the whole army out to watch that day as well. Can anyone say from their observation how Shurmer/Shula/Gettleman's body language/non-verbals looked after watching that one? Or even at Darnold's?

I am just curious if we have a point of comparison from last year.



I watched Rosen's and Darnold's

Rosen was like watching the making of "How to Play QB" video. He was expected to look good and he did. It was outside at UCLA. Did a lot of play-action stuff with rollouts to both sides. Looked like a natural doing it. Frankly, I don't recall seeing any of the brass...


They were there. In fact they had a private workout with him prior to the pro day.
RE: Zeke  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14349972 Eric from BBI said:
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I could probably list 100 players off of the top of my head who were supposed to be "can't miss".


Sure by other people. I don't take stock into how other people rate can't miss, mostly cause I believe it is a super overused word. If you aren't hitting over 80 percent on your own personal can't miss prospects I think you are overusing that word.
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