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Pat Shurmur’s take on Dwayne Haskins’ Pro Day: ‘Impressive …

GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 7:08 pm
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“It was excellent,’’ Shurmur said. “We obviously have spent a lot of time evaluating him, and this is one piece of it. We got the chance to work with him on the board and take him to dinner, and he certainly is an accomplished and impressive young man.’’

There is evidence of Haskins’ ability from his one record-breaking year as a starting quarterback at Ohio State. Shurmur, as a former quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator, likes to get a sense of things by being in the building.

“Just watch him throw,’’ Shurmur said. “The important thing about Pro Days in general is you come to his school, you get to see how he interacts with his teammates, get to talk to the people that have worked with him.’’





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As I’ve said, if Shurmur believes  
Big Blue '56 : 3/20/2019 7:10 pm : link
he’s the future, I’m all in as a fan..That said, lots of coachspeak in here, imv
I’d take  
Dan_Soprano : 3/20/2019 7:21 pm : link
Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.
That would be kind of cool  
Joey in VA : 3/20/2019 7:22 pm : link
To have another kid who grew up rooting for them like we did. So Peppers and Tate were and we may add a QB who was.

The tone of that locker room will be totally different if we have Haskins in there. Imagine a year from now when Eli hangs it up, you have your 2nd year QB ready to go with your 3rd year phenom RB, that's setting up for a decent future if we can get those two in the same huddle.
Donovan McNabb  
Dan_Soprano : 3/20/2019 7:24 pm : link
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RE: That would be kind of cool  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 7:24 pm : link
In comment 14350339 Joey in VA said:
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To have another kid who grew up rooting for them like we did. So Peppers and Tate were and we may add a QB who was.

The tone of that locker room will be totally different if we have Haskins in there. Imagine a year from now when Eli hangs it up, you have your 2nd year QB ready to go with your 3rd year phenom RB, that's setting up for a decent future if we can get those two in the same huddle.


Not to mention a huge amount of cap room to add more play makers on both sides of the ball.
RE: I’d take  
darren in pdx : 3/20/2019 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


Are you sure you’re not thinking of Murray? I’ve seen a lot of people knocking Haskins for being slow and immobile akin to Eli. As usual, opinions on players are all over the place. Just need someone that can buy time in the pocket, you don’t need to be a Michael Vick to do that.
RE: I’d take  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/20/2019 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


What? RGIII runner, and couldn't digest a playbook.

Haskins - Pocket passer with some wiggle that is fantastic at making great decisions with the ball.

I'm not even a big Haskins fan, but this couldn't be more wrong.


RE: I’d take  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/20/2019 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


Respectfully dont see the RGIII Comp... But, I do fear a Byron Leftwich Comp. Strong arm, pocket passer. The way he was sucking wind at the workout.. & showed up at the Combine pudgey...

What to expect when he gets PAID?? Hmmm.. Chunky "Haskins & Robbins" 31 Flavors like?
RE: Donovan McNabb  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 7:28 pm : link
In comment 14350343 Dan_Soprano said:
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Wow you name black QBs that are nothing like Haskins. Curious if you are trolling or just... you know stupid.
I really  
Dodge : 3/20/2019 7:29 pm : link
Compare him to _insert_other_black_qb_name_
RE: I really  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 7:30 pm : link
In comment 14350355 Dodge said:
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Compare him to _insert_other_black_qb_name_


Right... amazing to me.
The telling quote there is they got him on the board.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 7:31 pm : link
That is probably why Shurmur had a semi all day today at the pro day. We heard Josh Allen last year really blew Shurmur on the board away last year(which tracks because I believe he got a 37 on his wonderlic) but his inaccuracy rightly scared him off. This is going to be the guy as long as the price isn't too high.
RE: RE: I’d take  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/20/2019 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14350352 Jim Bur(n)t said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.



Respectfully dont see the RGIII Comp... But, I do fear a Byron Leftwich Comp. Strong arm, pocket passer. The way he was sucking wind at the workout.. & showed up at the Combine pudgey...

What to expect when he gets PAID?? Hmmm.. Chunky "Haskins & Robbins" 31 Flavors like?


The big difference is that he doesn't have that wind up in his throw. That's what killed Leftwhich at the next level.
Haskins may not pan out in the NFL  
BSIMatt : 3/20/2019 7:32 pm : link
Draft is always a crapshoot when it comes to quarterbacks, but he absolutely does not resemble RGIII in any way.
Dan_Soprano  
BillT : 3/20/2019 7:32 pm : link
Dopey troll

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RE: RE: RE: I’d take  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 7:33 pm : link
In comment 14350360 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.



Respectfully dont see the RGIII Comp... But, I do fear a Byron Leftwich Comp. Strong arm, pocket passer. The way he was sucking wind at the workout.. & showed up at the Combine pudgey...

What to expect when he gets PAID?? Hmmm.. Chunky "Haskins & Robbins" 31 Flavors like?



The big difference is that he doesn't have that wind up in his throw. That's what killed Leftwhich at the next level.


He has a very quick release he reminds of Kurt Warner a little bit except I can't say that because Kurt is white so I will say Kyler Murray.
RE: I’d take  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 7:33 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


That makes no sense as a comparison, but thanks for sharing.
Purdue  
BigBlueCane : 3/20/2019 7:33 pm : link
punched this team in the Mouth and Haskins had no answer despite his talent and the talent around him.
RE: Purdue  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/20/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14350366 BigBlueCane said:
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punched this team in the Mouth and Haskins had no answer despite his talent and the talent around him.


Rutgers did the same to Saquon, whats your point.
Someone Say Impressive?  
Trainmaster : 3/20/2019 7:35 pm : link
RE: RE: Purdue  
arcarsenal : 3/20/2019 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14350368 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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punched this team in the Mouth and Haskins had no answer despite his talent and the talent around him.



Rutgers did the same to Saquon, whats your point.


He doesn't have one - he thought Tim Tebow was a good pro QB.
the point  
BigBlueCane : 3/20/2019 7:36 pm : link
with SB was you don't draft a RB b/c its not a relevant position in Today's NFL.

The point with Haskins is stop relying on numbers and look at what your eyes are saying. He's closer to Kerry Collins then he is either Manning.
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Jim Bur(n)t : 3/20/2019 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14350357 Amtoft said:
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Compare him to _insert_other_black_qb_name_



Right... amazing to me.


I would like to believe that isn't the mindset... But nobody says anything about guys like (WR) Renfro or Isabella going to the Pats time & time again... Let's ease up on the hypersensitivity folks,,, I am sure there is no malice behind comments.
RE: I’d take  
crooza172 : 3/20/2019 7:39 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


You are an idiot. I’m not justifying it because you didn’t either in your ridiculous statement.
RE: the point  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/20/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14350372 BigBlueCane said:
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with SB was you don't draft a RB b/c its not a relevant position in Today's NFL.

The point with Haskins is stop relying on numbers and look at what your eyes are saying. He's closer to Kerry Collins then he is either Manning.


He's not nearly the statue that Kerry Collins was. Man some lazy analysis around here.

He's also really accurate. Not Kerry Collins strong point.
RE: I’d take  
mrvax : 3/20/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


You must be thinking of someone else. Haskins is nothing like RG3.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I’d take  
Jimmy Googs : 3/20/2019 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14350364 Amtoft said:
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In comment 14350352 Jim Bur(n)t said:


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In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:


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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.



Respectfully dont see the RGIII Comp... But, I do fear a Byron Leftwich Comp. Strong arm, pocket passer. The way he was sucking wind at the workout.. & showed up at the Combine pudgey...

What to expect when he gets PAID?? Hmmm.. Chunky "Haskins & Robbins" 31 Flavors like?



The big difference is that he doesn't have that wind up in his throw. That's what killed Leftwhich at the next level.



He has a very quick release he reminds of Kurt Warner a little bit except I can't say that because Kurt is white so I will say Kyler Murray.


Haha. Love this...
I'd be fine with Haskens at 6  
ZogZerg : 3/20/2019 7:46 pm : link
He looked good today and seems like a really good guy.

RE: RE: I really  
Toth029 : 3/20/2019 7:48 pm : link
In comment 14350357 Amtoft said:
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Compare him to _insert_other_black_qb_name_



Right... amazing to me.

About as ignorant as people comparing *insert white WR* to Wes Welker.
Haskins vs Purdue  
ZogZerg : 3/20/2019 7:49 pm : link
As a huge Purdue fan, I watched that game a couple of times.
Haskins played decent in that game. Sure, he had a few dud throws, but OSU receivers didn't do him any favors. They dropped a number of passes - at least 2 TD passes were dropped.
This sentence by Shurmur seems to contradict those reports of  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 7:50 pm : link
no Giants interest Haskins.

"We obviously have spent a lot of time evaluating him, and this is one piece of it."
RE: This sentence by Shurmur seems to contradict those reports of  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/20/2019 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14350388 GFAN52 said:
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no Giants interest Haskins.

"We obviously have spent a lot of time evaluating him, and this is one piece of it."


Yep.. it's the "lying season" as they say :)
RE: I’d take  
FStubbs : 3/20/2019 7:52 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


If you're going to play the "compare him to a black qb bust that he might resemble", at least pick someone like Jason Campbell. Great competitor, but limited tools and low ceiling.

Actually he's sounding more like Matt Stafford to me than anything else.
Haskins patterns his game after Warren Moon  
Eli Wilson : 3/20/2019 7:52 pm : link
At least that's what he told Mariucci.
RE: RE: I’d take  
Amtoft : 3/20/2019 7:55 pm : link
In comment 14350390 FStubbs said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.



If you're going to play the "compare him to a black qb bust that he might resemble", at least pick someone like Jason Campbell. Great competitor, but limited tools and low ceiling.

Actually he's sounding more like Matt Stafford to me than anything else.


I don't get the Matt Stafford... His arm was a cannon but he isn't nearly as accurate coming out. He had one of the strongest arms coming out. Haskins has a good arm but I don't see that type of cannon. Besides he isn't black so that won't work.
RE: RE: I’d take  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/20/2019 7:57 pm : link
In comment 14350390 FStubbs said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.






If you're going to play the "compare him to a black qb bust that he might resemble", at least pick someone like Jason Campbell. Great competitor, but limited tools and low ceiling.

Actually, he's sounding more like Matt Stafford to me than anything else.


Hey, ding dongs... You are looking for/creating dumb shit rather than realizing a dumb shit (who knows nothing about football apparently) made a dumb comment... Snap out of it! Enough
RE: the point  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2019 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14350372 BigBlueCane said:
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with SB was you don't draft a RB b/c its not a relevant position in Today's NFL.

The point with Haskins is stop relying on numbers and look at what your eyes are saying. He's closer to Kerry Collins then he is either Manning.


No, the point your made about Saquon was about him not being good. But since you got proven wrong on that one you’ve moved the goal post claiming you meant don’t draft a RB high. Fucking dumb.

Let’s take all top players and make sure we don’t draft them if they ever lost a game. That’s what I take away from your comment and it’s beyond dumb.
RE: RE: This sentence by Shurmur seems to contradict those reports of  
GFAN52 : 3/20/2019 8:01 pm : link
In comment 14350389 Jim Bur(n)t said:
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no Giants interest Haskins.

"We obviously have spent a lot of time evaluating him, and this is one piece of it."



Yep.. it's the "lying season" as they say :)


Well then, they are doing a pretty good job of it, because Shurmur sure seems enamored with Haskins.
No way in hell  
tyrik13 : 3/20/2019 8:02 pm : link
He’s NOT gonna be the pick. If he’s there at 6, they’re taking him and not looking back. I’d be fine with it. People saying he lacks mobility and maneuverability are sorely mistaken because he looks to be just fine in that dept.
Point to consider....  
Big_Pete : 3/20/2019 8:07 pm : link
Ohio State Coach Ryan Day (formerly their OC) worked directly with Pat Shurmur at the Eagles as their QB coach.
RE: I’d take  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


Not even close
RE: Point to consider....  
Joey in VA : 3/20/2019 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14350412 Big_Pete said:
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Ohio State Coach Ryan Day (formerly their OC) worked directly with Pat Shurmur at the Eagles as their QB coach.
Excellent point sir!
Still looks fat and slow to me. This workout showed nothing.  
TMS : 3/20/2019 8:10 pm : link
Why was he never made to move or show some ability to do that? He might be fine until he is flushed from the pocket and they start to get after him. Because an Ol blows a block or receiver does not finish a rout and he panics because he cannot get away. Thats when the really bad things happen. A big statue with a big arm but rattle him and he is in trouble. A nightmare in our league. Snurmur is all BS he complemetns every QB he sees as it should be. Lets see what they do on draft day .
Ok, a few things here  
jvm52106 : 3/20/2019 8:12 pm : link
1) Dumb ass comparison to RGIII.
2) He is a bit more leftwich in his overall athleticism but I see more Stan Humphries and Mark Rypien in him.
3) I don't think the Gmen are looking at Haskins at 6 but maybe somewhere after 6.
4) I think the Kyler Murray talk can end now. There is no way the Giants are drafting a guy that small at QB unless he really slides in the draft.
5) I am seeing the real possibility that Josh Rosen is the guy we end up with and Haskins could be a fall back at after 6 if the Cardinals ask for too much.
RE: Point to consider....  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 8:14 pm : link
In comment 14350412 Big_Pete said:
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Ohio State Coach Ryan Day (formerly their OC) worked directly with Pat Shurmur at the Eagles as their QB coach.


They gonna know this kid inside and out. If they pick him they will be thoroughly confident he can be our next QB.

Perhaps Im not remembering but I dont recall the talk being nearly as effusive for ANY of the QBs last year. All the praise seemed much more reserved.

The highest praise seemed to be about Rosens table manners Lol
RE: RE: Point to consider....  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/20/2019 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14350428 Pan-handler said:
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Ohio State Coach Ryan Day (formerly their OC) worked directly with Pat Shurmur at the Eagles as their QB coach.



They gonna know this kid inside and out. If they pick him they will be thoroughly confident he can be our next QB.

Perhaps Im not remembering but I dont recall the talk being nearly as effusive for ANY of the QBs last year. All the praise seemed much more reserved.

The highest praise seemed to be about Rosens table manners Lol


Rosen never slurped his soup or called the server "Honey".. not once ;-P . Josh Allen, on the other hand, used a salad fork to eat his Chateaubriand.. Classless fuck
RE: I’d take  
MotownGIANTS : 3/20/2019 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


You do realize the only thing they have in common is their black .... nothing about their style of play is the same
RE: I’d take  
MotownGIANTS : 3/20/2019 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14350338 Dan_Soprano said:
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Daniel Jones over him in a heartbeat. Haskins = another RGIII.


You do realize the only thing they have in common is they’re black .... nothing about their style of play is the same
Haskins has to be the guy if he's there at 6  
Breeze_94 : 3/20/2019 8:35 pm : link
the question is how much are you willing to give up to make sure you get him
RE: Still looks fat and slow to me. This workout showed nothing.  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 8:35 pm : link
In comment 14350418 TMS said:
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Why was he never made to move or show some ability to do that? He might be fine until he is flushed from the pocket and they start to get after him. Because an Ol blows a block or receiver does not finish a rout and he panics because he cannot get away. Thats when the really bad things happen. A big statue with a big arm but rattle him and he is in trouble. A nightmare in our league. Snurmur is all BS he complemetns every QB he sees as it should be. Lets see what they do on draft day .


I thought he looked better physically this time vs the Combine. He even admitted he's cut weight since then, and admitted he wasn't in top shape.

Today didn't solve the issue that is a big question mark throughout the season - how will Haskins deal with an NFL environment where you have less time to read the defense and less time to throw.

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