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What is your DREAM scenario for Round 1?

Joey in VA : 3/20/2019 8:08 pm
No holds barred, you can orchestrate a trade up to 1, drop down and get more, blah blah blah. Bottom line, your right now (and it will change 100 times in 30 days) absolute dream picks at 6 and 17. The only thing I ask is to be reasonable with where guys are slated to go and I can't believe I'm saying it, just contribute, let's keep it clean and civil and share some grey matter.

Right now, my dream scenario is

Round 1, Pick 6 - QB Dwayne Haskins, OSU.

Round 1, Pick 17 - WR D.K. Metcalf, Miss St.

OR

Round 1, Pick 17 - TE T.J. Hockenson, Iowa

Chances are Metcalf is long gone by 17 but if there is any way he's there I nab him immediately. He's a matchup problem just with his size and he has elite speed to match it. You add a 6-3 lightning bolt who can block down field to an offense with Evan Engram and Saquon Barkley and a much improved OL from two years ago and you have the pieces in place.

Hockenson would be an immediate starter, updgrade our egde blocking in the run and the pass game and he's a talented down field pass catcher and a lot of times we played best out of 12 personnel and I think Shurmur is going to use a lot of that.

Haskins is the one today, who I want at 6 after his pro day. He looked much much quicker up close footwork wise and his arm talent speaks for itself. I have questions as do others on his experience and how easy he had it at OSU but we're talking prototype size, arm talent, bright kid with a calm demeanor who seems to just get it.

So you'd have finally a solid OL (yes my blind faith in DG means I'm assuming he fixes RT by September), a superstar do it all RB who teams have to box in, a TE/Y in Engram who can absolutely fly and a big strong armed QB with smarts and intangibles. And then a matchup nightmare in Metcalf or a solid reliable two way TE in Hockenson. And flame on!
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#6 - Josh Allen  
Saos1n : 3/20/2019 8:12 pm : link
#17 - Brian Burns

Get the rush back. Trade for Josh Rosen
Joey  
Andy in Boston : 3/20/2019 8:13 pm : link
How can you not want to pick a defensive player knowing what
This defense is right now ?
Metcalf  
XBRONX : 3/20/2019 8:13 pm : link
blows
Trade up from 6 to 4 and take Quinnen Williams  
Ira : 3/20/2019 8:14 pm : link
At 17 take one of the offensive tackles - Williams, Risner or Dillard.
I want Josh Allen, but think he will be gone, so...  
rasbutant : 3/20/2019 8:14 pm : link
#6 OT Taylor
#17 EDGE Brian Burns
#37 WR N'keal Harry
A pass rusher, an OT  
David B. : 3/20/2019 8:15 pm : link
and ROSEN.
#6 Quinnen Williams  
Motley Two : 3/20/2019 8:16 pm : link
#17 T.J.Hockenson

Please
..  
Mr. Nickels : 3/20/2019 8:17 pm : link
6 Quinen williams
17 Greg Little
Haskins  
Jon in NYC : 3/20/2019 8:19 pm : link
and Cody Ford
RE: ..  
Motley Two : 3/20/2019 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14350437 Mr. Nickels said:
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6 Quinen williams
17 Greg Little


This works too.
#6 Josh Allen  
BrianLeonard23 : 3/20/2019 8:20 pm : link
#17 BPA OL
#37 Traded to AZ for Rosen
These little gam s re such a waste until Cardinals make a move  
Ivan15 : 3/20/2019 8:20 pm : link
And that isn’t likely to happen until draft day.
allen and an OT  
Chip : 3/20/2019 8:20 pm : link
don't want a QB this year and Bradberry lasts to 37. If not all defense works BPA
If we go QB at 6  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 8:21 pm : link
I want a stud defender on defense (where we have a ton more holes than offense). Right now we are better offensively than the team that scored 40, 27, and 35 pts 3 of the last 4 games. We have upgraded RG greatly and Hernandez will be in his 2nd year now. Pio should be back healthy (and we will likely add a highly drafted OT).

Engram averaged 80 yds a game over the last few games. We added Tate who is better than Shep. Barkley is an amazing receiver out of the backfield. The offense may not be as dangerous without OBj but it can certainly be a good one.

With that said 17 needs to be a defender at a critical spot of need. ER or shutdown corner. I would take Jaylon Ferguson or Greedy if either made it to this spot. Burns in the mix as well. Id get my OT at 37 (as the draft class is uber deep there).
Haskins.... Cody Ford/TJ Hockenson  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/20/2019 8:23 pm : link
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Go Terps : 3/20/2019 8:23 pm : link
6 - White (assuming Williams is gone)
17 - Hockenson
Haskins @ 6  
Chris684 : 3/20/2019 8:24 pm : link
Clelin Ferrell or Dexter Lawrence @17.

If we trade for Rosen or wait until 2020:

Devin White @ 6

Hockenson or Dillard @ 17
RE: #6 Quinnen Williams  
Eman11 : 3/20/2019 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14350435 Motley Two said:
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#17 T.J.Hockenson

Please


Where do I sign? I'd take this in a heartbeat and be as thrilled as could be.
Hmm  
GiantGrit : 3/20/2019 8:28 pm : link

6. Haskins

17. Devin Bush
6. Josh Allen  
WillVAB : 3/20/2019 8:29 pm : link
17. Christian Wilkins
Josh Allen  
Reb8thVA : 3/20/2019 8:29 pm : link
And Christian Wilkins
Realistically  
Anakim : 3/20/2019 8:30 pm : link
Assuming Quinnen, Bosa and Allen are all gone, I'd take Devin White at 6.

With 17, depending on who is available, I honestly wouldn't mind trading it and collecting a first rounder next year, plus more. Accrue enough assets to be able to go QB next year or perhaps, Trevor Lawrence in 2021.


If we kept it, Brian Burns if he was there. He's my sixth overall prospect, but I don't see many mocks having him go in the top-10.
Devin White at #6, OL Ford at #17  
sober297 : 3/20/2019 8:35 pm : link
.
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Diver_Down : 3/20/2019 8:36 pm : link
#6 - Quinnen (if other teams trade up for QBs, and he falls to us - DREAM scenario)
#17 - Cody Ford/Hockenson

IF Q. Williams is gone as is likely

#6 - Jonah - He fix the RT this season and next, but he'll be able to take over at LT to push Nate off the roster
#17 - Hockenson
For me, all defense, front seven.  
barens : 3/20/2019 8:36 pm : link
They’ve lost a lot on D, and i’d like to see some rebuilding on that side of the ball. The offensive line is getting there, and while our wide receiving Corp leaves a bit to be desired, I think with all the draft capital we have, there will be plenty of options later in the draft at receiver.

That said, my dream scenario’s would be Rashan Gary and Devin Bush, or Devin White and Devin Bush. Get some speed and impact players on that side of the ball.
RE: .  
Motley Two : 3/20/2019 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14350448 Go Terps said:
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6 - White (assuming Williams is gone)
17 - Hockenson


Come on Terps, in the DREAM scenario...Williams will still be there
Ideally, trade out of either 6 or 17...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 8:39 pm : link
If not, Allen works just fine for a major need at #6.

At #17, Byron Murphy.

RE: Metcalf  
Tuckrule : 3/20/2019 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14350427 XBRONX said:
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blows


+1 can’t separate and always hurt oh yea and he can’t do the number 1 thing a wr should do and that’s catch the football. BB has 2 wr requirements can he catch the ball and create space. No and no he’s at best a round 2 talent.
People need to do some homework  
Tuckrule : 3/20/2019 8:41 pm : link
Jonah isn’t a tackle in the nfl he projects inside to guard. How about Taylor
Mine  
mavric : 3/20/2019 8:41 pm : link
#6 Devin White (best LB for the Giants since LT - perennial pro-bowler)

#17 OT Jawaan Taylor or TE T.J. Hockenson (pretty sure neither will be on the board at 17 - "Dream Scenario"
RE: People need to do some homework  
Anakim : 3/20/2019 8:43 pm : link
In comment 14350490 Tuckrule said:
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Jonah isn’t a tackle in the nfl he projects inside to guard.


Based on what? His arm length? I think he has longer arms than Joe Staley.
Mine:  
AcidTest : 3/20/2019 8:43 pm : link
#6: Josh Allen.
#17: Dexter Lawrence.

What I tentatively think will happen:

#6: Dwayne Haskins.
#17: Jaylon Ferguson.
RE: People need to do some homework  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14350490 Tuckrule said:
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Jonah isn’t a tackle in the nfl he projects inside to guard. How about Taylor


Hmmmm. I think he's got RT written all over him, actually.
Allen  
Mark from Jersey : 3/20/2019 8:46 pm : link
somehow falls to 6.

Dillard at 17.
Q Williams at 6 and OL Taylor at 17.  
carpoon : 3/20/2019 8:48 pm : link
Trade whatever it takes to get Fromm next year.
RE: RE: People need to do some homework  
Diver_Down : 3/20/2019 8:48 pm : link
In comment 14350497 Anakim said:
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In comment 14350490 Tuckrule said:


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Jonah isn’t a tackle in the nfl he projects inside to guard.



Based on what? His arm length? I think he has longer arms than Joe Staley.


Everyone is hung up on the 1/8" inch shorter than the magical 34" inch cutoff. The "projection" of him playing inside despite never playing a snap inside is ridiculous. Jonah will be our whale. He fixes RT in the short-term while kicking Nate off the roster in 2 years (if not sooner).
Picking 32nd  
Mike in Boston : 3/20/2019 8:50 pm : link
Every year.
Dream?  
The_Boss : 3/20/2019 8:51 pm : link
6- Sweat
17- Dillard

Try to trade back into the late 1st for Bradbury.

RE: Joey  
Joey in VA : 3/20/2019 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14350426 Andy in Boston said:
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How can you not want to pick a defensive player knowing what
This defense is right now ?
It's really tough Andy, this team needs a lot of things but to me the delta in 2 years is better with a QB and big time TE and WR. I think outside of Q Williams and Josh Allen (Bosa has no shot to fall) falling that's my set up. I think Allen and Williams and Bosa go before we pick and those are the only 3 sure fire must have defenders except for MAYBE Devin White who I absolutely love. I just want the next QB and a big offensive threat so we can go back to pounding teams on offense.
Surprised, Joey, you like Metcalf...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 8:58 pm : link
He's really a one trick pony - the 9 route.

And based on some very slow shuttle times at the Combine, that creates more concern about his ability to get in and out of cut for the rest of the route tree...
Quinnen Williams at 6  
Earl the goat : 3/20/2019 9:00 pm : link
And Cody Ford at 17
Joey  
Thegratefulhead : 3/20/2019 9:00 pm : link
That is hard not to like. We need D more. Your picks at 17 are luxury. Draft is deep on D. I think I use 34 and more if needed go up an get an impact player on D. I think we should call every team 7-16 and try to move up to get a impact player on D as well as Haskins.
RE: Surprised, Joey, you like Metcalf...  
Joey in VA : 3/20/2019 9:01 pm : link
In comment 14350532 bw in dc said:
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He's really a one trick pony - the 9 route.

And based on some very slow shuttle times at the Combine, that creates more concern about his ability to get in and out of cut for the rest of the route tree...
Well we disagree on a WR, will the world keep rotating?? :). To me he's the kind who can be a threat because of that 9 and the height and the speed. He's a go up and get it guy, which may not actually fit what Shurmur does best but tools wise, you don't see that height/speed very often.
RE: Quinnen Williams at 6  
Earl the goat : 3/20/2019 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14350539 Earl the goat said:
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And Cody Ford at 17


2nd round Nasir Adderley
4th Vosean Joseph
4th Terrill Hanks
5 Justin Layne
5 saivion smith
5 mecole hardman
6 Albert Huggins
Here's mine  
ChicagoMarty : 3/20/2019 9:05 pm : link
#6 Devin White LB
#17 Byron Murphy CB
#37 Andre Dillard or Dalton Risner OL - whoever falls
#95 Hakeem Butler or Emanuel Hall or Parris Campbell WR
#108 Jalen Jenks ER
#133 Chase Hansen LB
#142 Salvion Smith CB
#143 Shareef Miller ER
#171 Kendall Joseph LB
#180 Marquise Blair S
#232 Albert Huggins DL
#245 LJ Scott RB

UDFA Brandon Joseph Knight OL
UDFA Marquise Copeland DL

I don't think you can just make two picks at the top without subjecting yourself to criticism that you are ignoring this or that need. We have a plethora of needs all of which I believe are addressed with these selections with the obvious exception of QB.

The common cliche for both Giant management and journalists is to build from the lines out. I think the way this draft falls and the desperate shape that our D finds itself, that it is much easier to draft from the back seven in.

I think DG started to do just that by replacing our two starting safeties with FA's. It is critical to our D that speed and athleticism is increased in both the middle and at our corners if we are to compete in a pass crazy league.

The biggest risk with the above draft imo is to wait until #37 to fill the ORT slot. Draft another potential weapon at WR and then just fill in the D as best you can.
TRADE  
Gmanfandan : 3/20/2019 9:05 pm : link
#6 and #17 for Kyler Murry

OR Staying Put

#6 Jonah Williams
#17 Clellin Ferrell (cant possibly still be there can he?)
RE: RE: Surprised, Joey, you like Metcalf...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14350543 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 14350532 bw in dc said:


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He's really a one trick pony - the 9 route.

And based on some very slow shuttle times at the Combine, that creates more concern about his ability to get in and out of cut for the rest of the route tree...

Well we disagree on a WR, will the world keep rotating?? :). To me he's the kind who can be a threat because of that 9 and the height and the speed. He's a go up and get it guy, which may not actually fit what Shurmur does best but tools wise, you don't see that height/speed very often.


Beyond that, as I'm sure you know, I view WRs as mostly widgets - easily found, easily replaceable. ;)
RE: Here's mine  
Pan-handler : 3/20/2019 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14350550 ChicagoMarty said:
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#6 Devin White LB
#17 Byron Murphy CB
#37 Andre Dillard or Dalton Risner OL - whoever falls
#95 Hakeem Butler or Emanuel Hall or Parris Campbell WR
#108 Jalen Jenks ER
#133 Chase Hansen LB
#142 Salvion Smith CB
#143 Shareef Miller ER
#171 Kendall Joseph LB
#180 Marquise Blair S
#232 Albert Huggins DL
#245 LJ Scott RB

UDFA Brandon Joseph Knight OL
UDFA Marquise Copeland DL

I don't think you can just make two picks at the top without subjecting yourself to criticism that you are ignoring this or that need. We have a plethora of needs all of which I believe are addressed with these selections with the obvious exception of QB.

The common cliche for both Giant management and journalists is to build from the lines out. I think the way this draft falls and the desperate shape that our D finds itself, that it is much easier to draft from the back seven in.

I think DG started to do just that by replacing our two starting safeties with FA's. It is critical to our D that speed and athleticism is increased in both the middle and at our corners if we are to compete in a pass crazy league.

The biggest risk with the above draft imo is to wait until #37 to fill the ORT slot. Draft another potential weapon at WR and then just fill in the D as best you can.


Do you like Greedy?
RE: I want Josh Allen, but think he will be gone, so...  
Danny80 : 3/20/2019 9:11 pm : link
In comment 14350431 rasbutant said:
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#6 OT Taylor
#17 EDGE Brian Burns
#37 WR N'keal Harry


Unrealistic:

#6 Josh Allen
#17 Devin White
#37 Trade for Rosen.

More Realistic:

#6 Montez Sweat
#17 Jawaan Taylor or Devin Bush
#37 Dexter Lawrence or Deondre Baker
RE: Here's mine  
bw in dc : 3/20/2019 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14350550 ChicagoMarty said:
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#6 Devin White LB
#17 Byron Murphy CB



I'm big into Murphy, too. He really looked the part at the Combine. And that's definitely a position of need.
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