NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein said on the network’s “Move the Sticks” podcast that the Browns didn’t place first-round value on the No. 17 pick they dealt as the centerpiece of the package for Beckham due to a dearth of first-round talent in the upcoming NFL draft.
Report: Browns don’t see 1st-round value in traded pick
“I had heard that the Browns considered there to be 15 players that are first-round players in this year’s draft,” Zierlein said. “That sounds about right. About 15 guys who are first-round picks. Analytics is always about quantifying value so, for them, that 17th pick, they considered that a second-round player, generally speaking.”
The article is only interesting for repeating this point. The rest is a crap on Gettleman article that is not worth the read in my opinion. However, this is the most ridiculous rationalization in dealing the pick of it was part of the consideration. Both sides Ofcourse want PR wise to say the got the better end of the deal but this is a bit much. Not sure if this is at the same level of Giants getting two 1st round picks with Peppers spin—which I don’t mind as much as this Cleveland spin. Not sure what analystics they are using but to assume that all 15 teams in front of you will take the 15 players you see as first rounders is absurd. 17 would also mean you wouldn’t have to trade too much to move up into the 12-15 range either.
Does everyone really only think there are 15 first round players in this draft? This is the first I hearrd about it. Also, if true is Gettleman looking to trade up with it, trade down or sit and let someone fall to him?
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Double Bizarro World, maybe??
Nice BS spin by the Browns. What a load of bull.
Never happens.
spin away.
Will obviously hurt even more for them if Beckham does not work out as hoped for and if any player picked at 17 or later turns into a special player, a "1st round talent".
Just because they feel only 15 players are 1st round worthy, does not make it so.
It is also perspective. The Browns have better talent than the Giants, so they aren't as needy in the draft - kind of a weak point.
And to fill in the gaps since this was published:
2014 CJ Mosely*
2015 Arik Armstead
2016 Keanu Neal*
2017 Jonathan Allen
2018 Derwin James*
Yeah, tell me another one about the 17th pick not being a first rounder. I like our chances.
Someone will slip it happens every draft,
I'll believe in the Browns when they actually do something.
Dollars to donuts, the Beckham trade blows up in their faces.
God hates the Browns. Everyone knows it, except Cleveland.
...that they have one of the NFL's premier Drama Queens at WR.
Why the FU** would they be prattling on about the 17th pick?
Isn't it enough that every sports pundit has given them an A+ in the OBJ trade?
They now need to put an extra layer of icing on their cake about the F-ing 17th pick?
Something doesn't smell right with the Mistake by the Lake.
...that they have one of the NFL's premier Drama Queens at WR.
Why the FU** would they be prattling on about the 17th pick?
Isn't it enough that every sports pundit has given them an A+ in the OBJ trade?
They now need to put an extra layer of icing on their cake about the F-ing 17th pick?
Something doesn't smell right with the Mistake by the Lake.
There could be something to this point. Why the need for more spin. They are now trying to say they gave up very little to get Beckham. It is just strange and funny.
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I don't think Jon Dorsey has to sell anything to his fans other than OBJ..
Double Bizarro World, maybe??
I agree!
I think my head just exploded! Wow reality is getting very thin.If you say something it must be true. The world is going crazy.
If they go 8-8 this year, that Hype Train is gonna go over a cliff.
so I am supposed to give a shit about their grades, why? The only thing Dorsey has done right since he got there was pick Mayfield.
Nothing new here or significant
That Panther SB team was basically inherited by Gettleman
Then last year's draft was a 1 person draft (Barkley) and after that, the talent level dropped off.
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It conveniently forgets to mention that the Panthers played in the Super Bowl under Gettlemen and his firing by the Panthers owner was under suspicious circumstances.
That Panther SB team was basically inherited by Gettleman
Disagree. He inherited some good pieces I'll give you that. Call me crazy but I don't think a team goes 15-1 and plays in a Super Bowl with an incompetent general manager.
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It conveniently forgets to mention that the Panthers played in the Super Bowl under Gettlemen and his firing by the Panthers owner was under suspicious circumstances.
That Panther SB team was basically inherited by Gettleman
Disagree. He inherited some good pieces I'll give you that. Call me crazy but I don't think a team goes 15-1 and plays in a Super Bowl with an incompetent general manager.
I live in Carolina, '15 the only good pick was Daryl Williams as Shaq Thompson and Funchess was very underwhelming. Then in '16 after the SB run fans were furious with selecting bust Vernon Butler at DT in the 1st round as he was clearly a luxury