NFT: Knicks Chat: Worst record with 10 games left

to really get a grasp on Fizdale. Still feels a bit like more of a salesman than a great coach but the talent is horrid.

His love of Mudiay is truly bizarre

Hated the Frank pick but his usage/playing time also was very odd for a bad team

Knox has been hot and cold but it's hard to identify what "development" has gone on thanks to the coach. Half a rebound better and better from 3 second half? I have trouble giving that to Fizdale

Mario has been what he's always been

I guess Dotson is the guy you can really point to and say he's shown X growth.

I'm not down on Fizdale, I just want to see more. Says the right things but still unsure.

Trier has developed a little bit better of an all around game

but it's tough to be sure based on this year.

Now it's up to the ping pong balls. Land Zion plus 2 max free agents and it can be a whole new world next year.

We have some good young players, but they may all be New Orleans Pelicans in a few months.

I think Dotson, Robinson and Trier would be excellent complementary pieces to two maxes. If we fall to 4/5 in the draft, Hunter and Culver would be great role players, too. I'm hopeful about Knox, but if you bring in two or three good offensive players, how's Knox gonna help us? His development may take a backseat next year, if he's here at all.

Not 60

Sixty percent chance at 4th-5th combined.

If they hold on to worst record, which looks pretty good right now.

Real potential gut-punch is that Mavs have gone full tank and stand to have 37% chance of getting a 1-4 pick. That will kick back the picks Knicks got in Porzingis trade by at least a year each.

This week. Just to get myself mentally prepared for what we all know is coming, 5th pick with someone like Dallas, LA or Philly picking first.

It’s pretty grim.

In comment 14351449 Greg from LI said:

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Not 60

Yes this is correct.

and now he is on a team tanking..

Pretty obvious knicks told him they were going to build with a young team around him and plans changed to go for 2 maxes and kp didnt like it

How does the Mavs record this year affect the picks they sent us? Isn't it like if they make the top-3, we get like two second round picks in the future, or something?


I forgot and I'm too lazy to look it up

We'll still have to endure the "sky is falling" hot takes in the days after the lottery selection, but we're used to it by now.

LA to be picking top 3 at worst.

that is protected 1-5 the next two years and 1-3 the two years after that.

The two first rounders the Knicks got for KP trigger two years and four years, respectively, after the Atlanta pick conveys.

One of the picks has to ultimately be a first rounder. The other could be converted to a second rounder if not conveyed before 2025.

If Mavs finish sixth worst seed this year, which seems likely, they can't get the fifth pick, so it's a matter of whether they will land 1-4.

And, as noted, they will have a 37% shot.

In comment 14351507 Anakim said:

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How does the Mavs record this year affect the picks they sent us? Isn't it like if they make the top-3, we get like two second round picks in the future, or something? I forgot and I'm too lazy to look it up

IF the Mavs pick top 5 this year they keep the pick, top 5 2020.. they keep the pick, top 3 2021 they keep the pick, top 3 in 2022 they keep the pick, 2023 unprotected.... the Knicks get the Mavs first pick... 2 years after it goes to Atlanta. For example... 2019 picks goes to Atlanta.. the Knicks get the 2021 pick, 2020 pick goes to Atlanta.. Knicks wait until 2022. The Knicks will get the 2nd 1st round pick... at minimum 4 years after Atlanta gets their pick, that pick is top 10 protected for 3 seasons and if the Mavs pick top 10 for those 3 seasons the Knicks get a 2nd.

So basically... theoretically... Hawks get the 2020 Mavs pick, the Knicks would get the Mavs 2022 pick and the first non-top 10 pick starting in 2024. If the Mavs picked up to 2024, 2025 and 2026, the Knicks would get the Mavs 2027 2nd instead.

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But if you don't think Zion Williamson is a Laker playing with LeBron next year, you haven't been paying attention.

It'd be nice, but not the key.

But we got a job to do,and we gon do it bay bay!

So, if the Knicks get screwed out of the second first round pick for long enough, it becomes an even worse pick?

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Is the player I want the most. It's a guards league

he has the worst looking jump shot I’ve ever seen. It may kill him at the next level

In comment 14351546 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14351507 Anakim said: Quote: How does the Mavs record this year affect the picks they sent us? Isn't it like if they make the top-3, we get like two second round picks in the future, or something? I forgot and I'm too lazy to look it up IF the Mavs pick top 5 this year they keep the pick, top 5 2020.. they keep the pick, top 3 2021 they keep the pick, top 3 in 2022 they keep the pick, 2023 unprotected.... the Knicks get the Mavs first pick... 2 years after it goes to Atlanta. For example... 2019 picks goes to Atlanta.. the Knicks get the 2021 pick, 2020 pick goes to Atlanta.. Knicks wait until 2022. The Knicks will get the 2nd 1st round pick... at minimum 4 years after Atlanta gets their pick, that pick is top 10 protected for 3 seasons and if the Mavs pick top 10 for those 3 seasons the Knicks get a 2nd. So basically... theoretically... Hawks get the 2020 Mavs pick, the Knicks would get the Mavs 2022 pick and the first non-top 10 pick starting in 2024. If the Mavs picked up to 2024, 2025 and 2026, the Knicks would get the Mavs 2027 2nd instead.

Three words: my head hurts