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NFT: March Madness Day 2

Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 8:40 am
The evening games were rough for the ol' bracket for me. Onward and upward - on the docket today are:

12:15 - Cincinnati v. Iowa
12:40 - Ole Miss v. Oklahoma
1:30 - Texas Tech v. Northern Kentucky
2:00 - Kansas St. v. UC Irvine
2:45 - Tennessee v. Colgate
3:10 - Virginia v. Gardner-Webb
4:00 - Buffalo v. Arizona St.
4:30 - Wisconsin v. Oregon
6:50 - Utah St. v. Washington
7:10 - Duke v. North Dakota St.
7:20 - Houston v. Georgia St.
7:27 - Mississippi St. v. Liberty
9:20 - UNC v. Iona
9:40 - VCU v. UCF
9:50 - Iowa State v. Ohio State
9:57 - Scum v. Saint Louis
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There is no way UVA loses this game.  
Britt in VA : 3/22/2019 3:46 pm : link
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Didn't the Giants have some rando LB from Gardner-Webb?  
Anakim : 3/22/2019 3:48 pm : link
In like 2005 or something?
RE: There is no way UVA loses this game.  
AcidTest : 3/22/2019 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14353369 Britt in VA said:
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That's what they said last year against UMBC.
RE: RE: There is no way UVA loses this game.  
Britt in VA : 3/22/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14353372 AcidTest said:
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That's what they said last year against UMBC.


Not going to happen twice.
UVA vs Retrievers was bad  
Heisenberg : 3/22/2019 3:50 pm : link
Bulldogs appear to be no better.
RE: RE: There is no way UVA loses this game.  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2019 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14353372 AcidTest said:
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In comment 14353369 Britt in VA said:


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That's what they said last year against UMBC.


Last year UVA had an injury excuse. I agree they will come back.... but if they don't .... holy shit
Bennett  
AcidTest : 3/22/2019 3:51 pm : link
is making the same mistake he made against UMBC. He's not playing Salt. GW has no size. Guy and Jerome are also cold from the outside.
Wouldn't want to be around Greg right now.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/22/2019 3:57 pm : link
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Virginia  
AcidTest : 3/22/2019 4:02 pm : link
cuts the lead to six at half, but they were not inspiring.
UC Irvine about to upset Kansas State  
montanagiant : 3/22/2019 4:10 pm : link
Some real odd coaching decisions made by K-state led to this
As a Colgate alum  
Mike in NY : 3/22/2019 4:18 pm : link
Wondering if it would have been better to be a 16 seed versus Virginia as opposed to 15 seed versus Tennessee
Salt  
AcidTest : 3/22/2019 4:24 pm : link
and Huff should be playing. You use your size against teams like GW.
RE: UC Irvine about to upset Kansas State  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14353406 montanagiant said:
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Some real odd coaching decisions made by K-state led to this


Agree but i do think the NCAA should reevaluate its pod model. It's not fair a 4 seed essentially plays a road game against a 13, and its fairly routine considering the 4 seeds get the worst venues since they get the final 4 slots.
UVA  
AcidTest : 3/22/2019 4:31 pm : link
finally getting the ball inside. That's the smart play. They are dominating the rim, and getting offensive rebounds.
I can finally exhale  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/22/2019 5:06 pm : link
Not playing Salt wasn't the issue.

The issue in the first half was that Diakite was showing hard on the hedge (as we typically do) and they were just slipping the hedge with ease and getting easy baskets at the rim. At the same time, we had six straight turnovers on offense. I no doubt think we were playing with nerves and playing tight after what happened last year.

When Huff came in, Tony had him stop hedging and to sag on the screener and it tightened up our paint and made it very hard for G-W to get any offense.

Then you see some shots go in on offense, and the tide turned.

In the second half, Diakite stopped hedging, too. And then our defense was impenetrable in the second half our our size on offense and guard play to dissect the zone made for easy baskets
RE: I can finally exhale  
AcidTest : 3/22/2019 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14353483 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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Not playing Salt wasn't the issue.

The issue in the first half was that Diakite was showing hard on the hedge (as we typically do) and they were just slipping the hedge with ease and getting easy baskets at the rim. At the same time, we had six straight turnovers on offense. I no doubt think we were playing with nerves and playing tight after what happened last year.

When Huff came in, Tony had him stop hedging and to sag on the screener and it tightened up our paint and made it very hard for G-W to get any offense.

Then you see some shots go in on offense, and the tide turned.

In the second half, Diakite stopped hedging, too. And then our defense was impenetrable in the second half our our size on offense and guard play to dissect the zone made for easy baskets


Excellent analysis, but I still think Salt would have helped. The hedging was definitely a problem. They need to shoot better to win on Sunday. Teams are clearly running at Guy, and forcing everyone else to shoot from three point range.
the issue with Salt  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/22/2019 5:26 pm : link
is that G-W just packed it in (except for Guy) and sagged off Salt and when they sag off Salt and Clark at the same time, it makes it hard to get the offense into a rhythm.
Salt doesn't initiate offense. He's a great screener and can grab offensive rebounds, but G-W boxed out well so what really succeeds are agile, bouncy players (like Diakite and Key). Salt scores around the rim when the D is spread out too much and he can get an easy look. But his offensive skills aren't good enough to go to play after play.

Salt will start next game and will be useful in certain situations.
I mostly concur with Paul  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 5:53 pm : link
GW plays no one bigger than 6'6" or 6'7". This was a bad game for Salt for that reason. He's not quick enough to guard those guys.

I also hate, HATE, the lineups with both Clark and Salt. We essentially are playing 3 on 5 on the offensive end with them. The numbers bear it out - those lineups struggle mightily to score. I love Tony Bennett but I don't know how he doesn't see this.

Dre finally started playing aggressively in the second half. We need much more of that.

Huge game by Diakite after a bad start. His defense in the second was superb and he was attacking the rim. Loved it, want more of it.

Bottom line - they clearly were mentally screwed up early and playing scared. Once they got that out of their system, they outscored GW 57-28. I hope they got the demons out of their heads going forward because this team is really damned good and has no excuse to not make a long run.
You  
AcidTest : 3/22/2019 5:59 pm : link
play Salt because they shut down Guy, and no one else shot well from beyond the arc in the first half. Salt has also had a few really good offensive games at the end of the season, including a career high IIRC. With poor outside shooting, Virginia needed to exploit its size advantage. He would also have been another enforcer around the rim.
Diakite can guard smaller, quicker guys  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 6:05 pm : link
Salt really can't.
RE: Diakite can guard smaller, quicker guys  
AcidTest : 3/22/2019 6:23 pm : link
In comment 14353548 Greg from LI said:
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Salt really can't.


Agreed, but GW was hitting a lot of outside shots in the first half. Since Virginia wasn't, you counter that by going inside on the offensive end. Salt's size advantage would have also helped on the boards.
Clark was a factor.early in the second half...  
Dunedin81 : 3/22/2019 6:26 pm : link
Not offensively but he had a couple big steals. Bad half of play with turnovers and cold shooting followed by a dominant second half. Cardiac Kids but I'll take it.
Sorry  
threeofakind33 : 3/22/2019 6:26 pm : link
To be that guy. But Oregonís point guard is blatantly carrying on every dribble and itís driving me nuts.
Wisconsin  
dep026 : 3/22/2019 6:32 pm : link
Continues to be the ugly step child for the Big 10
What the hell, Wisconsin?  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 6:42 pm : link
This was a 52-47 game! A 20-4 run in the last five or so
Go Ducks  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/22/2019 6:48 pm : link
!
I'm mad at myself for not calling that 12-13  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2019 7:02 pm : link
You had two Midwest teams playing road games against west coast teams in San Jose. Easy call in hindsight.
RE: I'm mad at myself for not calling that 12-13  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/22/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14353607 MetsAreBack said:
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You had two Midwest teams playing road games against west coast teams in San Jose. Easy call in hindsight.


Plus teams that were based on slow tempos and had difficulty scoring. Wisconsin got a ton of beneficial calls in the Big 10, Happ alone got 4-5 per game.
ND State up early on Duke.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/22/2019 7:33 pm : link
I'll donate a year's salary if somehow they beat those f*ckers.
Zion takes over at the start of the second half.  
Del Shofner : 3/22/2019 8:26 pm : link
I think that's that ....
RE: Zion takes over at the start of the second half.  
bubba0825 : 3/22/2019 8:32 pm : link
In comment 14353684 Del Shofner said:
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I think that's that ....


If he could develop 1/2 a mid range jumper heíll be great
Still not convinced Zion translates to the  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/22/2019 8:38 pm : link
NBA.
RE: Still not convinced Zion translates to the  
bubba0825 : 3/22/2019 8:49 pm : link
In comment 14353698 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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NBA.


Itís a faux pas to say but I agree
RE: Still not convinced Zion translates to the  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2019 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14353698 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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NBA.


I would agree but Barkley was saying this at halftime ... and he's an anti-indicator.


I was hoping to take your salary donation by the way. Every bit of free money helps!
Liberty pulls off the upset  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 9:50 pm : link
Bad tourny for 5 seeds, they all lost.

Very happy for Ritchie McKay, former UVA assistant and close friemd of Tony Bennett
And the Heels down 8 to Iona late in the first  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 10:00 pm : link
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RE: Liberty pulls off the upset  
Bramton1 : 3/22/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14353776 Greg from LI said:
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Bad tourny for 5 seeds, they all lost.

Very happy for Ritchie McKay, former UVA assistant and close friemd of Tony Bennett


No, Auburn was a 5 seed. They won. The only one.
WAKE UP  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/22/2019 10:12 pm : link
UNC.
Iona shot the lights out of the gym  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2019 10:16 pm : link
and UNC missed everything. Lucky to only be down 5 at half.

Would put the finishing touches on my personal year if UNC choked this season away.
One rule..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/22/2019 10:17 pm : link
I've never understood is the alternate possession rule.

If you have a tie-up and keep the ball, why does the shot clock not reset? It should be treated like a new possession since that's what the arrow is intended to do. The opposition doesn't get the ball with a lower amount on the shot clock.
Maye 2-9  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2019 10:20 pm : link
Cam 2-7
White 2-5

and most of these misses were wide open looks or missed bunnies.

Little probably the best player at 4-7 but he committed some egregious easy look misses and bad fouls too.

PUTRID. CBS put the metric about Roy's 28-0 first round record and the team shit the bed (and Iona hit about 7 consecutive threes... but in fairness most were wide the fuck open looks) from that point...
Heels humming along now  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 10:44 pm : link
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted
VCU getting smoked...ouch  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 11:07 pm : link
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Iona wasn't going to shoot like that all game  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2019 11:16 pm : link
And we caught a break with Cincy's home crowd going home today - never know how they would have cheered Sunday.

I had VCU today - man did my bracket suck this year. 24-10 or 23-11 it looks like. When you go 15-1 on chalk (top 4 seeds)... that is abysmal. //slaps own face// idiot
My math doesn't even work  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2019 11:17 pm : link
22-10 or 21-11.
RE: VCU getting smoked...ouch  
islander1 : 3/22/2019 11:23 pm : link
In comment 14353830 Greg from LI said:
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As a VCU alum, I'm not surprised. This team ran on coaching and effort all season. Two of the last three draft classes pissed away due to Smart and Wade leaving.

VCU needs talent. They've always had defense and heart. Marcus Evans is playing on a hyperextended knee, and we have nothing for Tacko.

We are literally 0 for the game in 3's. Just no shooting talent at all.

How we got 25 wins as and a BPI rating in the mid 30's is just incredible.

Rhodes has gotten the most out of these kids. I hope he can recruit.
RE: Iona wasn't going to shoot like that all game  
montanagiant : 3/22/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14353832 MetsAreBack said:
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And we caught a break with Cincy's home crowd going home today - never know how they would have cheered Sunday.

I had VCU today - man did my bracket suck this year. 24-10 or 23-11 it looks like. When you go 15-1 on chalk (top 4 seeds)... that is abysmal. //slaps own face// idiot

21-7 but no one but one team wins another game that I lost on so I will take it
OSU-ISU is a real barnburner  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 11:39 pm : link
Back and forth action
And wow, VCU coming back from the dead  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2019 11:41 pm : link
Only down 7 now with 4 and change to go
RE: One rule..  
ChaChing : 3/23/2019 12:29 am : link
In comment 14353803 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I've never understood is the alternate possession rule.

If you have a tie-up and keep the ball, why does the shot clock not reset? It should be treated like a new possession since that's what the arrow is intended to do. The opposition doesn't get the ball with a lower amount on the shot clock.

My take on this fwiw is the tie up happens while the O team has possession. If the O gets the ball they continue that same possession as if there was no tie up, so no reset. If it's the D, it's a change of possession so they reset. Also works for stuck on the rim type jumps as the clock would reset for either team on rebounding the ball after it hits the rim

Never thought about it but IMO makes sense
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