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So will we have to burn #17 to get a RT ?

TMS : 3/22/2019 2:03 pm
Is Remmers still in play ? Important IMO.
Not sure if "burn"  
BillyM : 3/22/2019 2:06 pm : link
is the right term to draft a very important, high priority position.

To answer your question, no. But if the right guy is there, a true starter year one, you go up and grab him.


Tackles usually go before they're projected because good nfl  
Ira : 3/22/2019 2:07 pm : link
tackles are hard to find.
We don't know yet  
Bill in UT : 3/22/2019 2:08 pm : link
Feel free to guess :)
Something up with remmers  
George from PA : 3/22/2019 2:09 pm : link
It seems he has not made any other visits since the Giants.


I wonder if they made a deal and are now waiting...so it does not effect the 3rd rd compensatory pick.
Even if they had signed Remmers, it'd still be a good idea to draft a  
Brown Recluse : 3/22/2019 2:10 pm : link
RT.

Remmers is a nice backup plan but he hasn't really played well in a while.
Remmers takes the pressure off  
AcesUp : 3/22/2019 2:12 pm : link
They almost have to grab a RT at 17 or 37 without him in the fold. With Remmers, you can still grab one early but he would provide the flexibility to look to developmental types in Round 3 or later.
Whether Remmers is in play or not  
Diver_Down : 3/22/2019 2:13 pm : link
shouldn't dictate our draft strategy. Does anyone think that an aging tackle with a bad back is worth dictating draft strategy?

We all know there are a ton of holes on the roster, but with Barkley in the fold and Eli needing protection, I would think that DG is committed to fixing the OL. He has to realize that Wheeler is not an option.
It is a good Idea to draft a tackle  
MTN-G-man : 3/22/2019 2:16 pm : link
even if Remmers is signed, but it allows so wiggle room as to when one is selected with Remmers in the fold.
so=  
MTN-G-man : 3/22/2019 2:17 pm : link
some
it's a great spot to take  
ryanmkeane : 3/22/2019 2:20 pm : link
a highly rated OL, whatever the position. Myself, I like Bradbury at 17 more than RT. That being said, can't argue with Ford, Dillard, or even yes Jonah Williams if he falls to that spot.
Wasnít the thought on Remmers that he canít pass  
Ben in Tampa : 3/22/2019 2:26 pm : link
A physical right now? He may be in play once heís cleared.

We should be taking a tackle early anyways.
The word "BURN from the OP is very strange  
giantstock : 3/22/2019 2:27 pm : link
Offensive Linemen - tackles -- are expensive. You call it "burn?"
Even it Remmers signs....  
BillKo : 3/22/2019 2:27 pm : link
......they def need to draft a RT at some point in this draft.

In fact, if he's there at 17 and has value, you take it.
Gettleman has never drafted a tackle before  
larryflower37 : 3/22/2019 2:30 pm : link
The 5th round.
He tends to draft D-tackles, LB and CB's early
So take that into account.
RE: Gettleman has never drafted a tackle before  
AcesUp : 3/22/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14353252 larryflower37 said:
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The 5th round.
He tends to draft D-tackles, LB and CB's early
So take that into account.


He took Taylor Moton in the 2nd round of 2017, with Daryl Williams on the roster. DG values OL, neither his words or actions suggest otherwise.
Ereck Flowers was a #9. Perhaps "waste" is a better word  
Marty in Albany : 3/22/2019 2:44 pm : link
for that pick.
We should definitely take a T early in the draft  
mavric : 3/22/2019 2:44 pm : link
Even if we get Remmers, we need to groom a talented RT/LT to replace Solder in the future as well as whoever is manning the right side. We should be drafting a T every year and grooming them for the future. Never know when one of our T's will get injured and we are NOT prepared for that.
For those advocating for a late round development pick,  
Diver_Down : 3/22/2019 2:50 pm : link
take a look at the private visits they had at the combine. Their visit list looked like nearly every top-rated prospect. They aren't spending time meeting with Ford and Dillard with the hopes of picking them in the 4th. They know where the prospects are slotted to go. Having #17 makes it more likely that a RT is taken. At the combine, they had #6 and #37. They were likely looking at prospect hoping that one falls to them like Hernandez did last year or the possibility of trading back into the first if they had slipped. Having #17 likely gives them the reassurance that a top-rated tackle will be waiting for them to select.
Iíd save that position to a  
Giant John : 3/22/2019 2:57 pm : link
3rd round.
Hypothetical - If Jawaan Taylor was still available at pick 10-12  
mavric : 3/22/2019 2:58 pm : link
What would the Giants have to package with their 17th pick to move up. Taylor is unanimously the premier tackle in this draft. Andre Dillard is also a first round talent figured to go in the top 15.

Maybe that's why the Giants have spent time with Williams, Ford, etc., which many have suggested they are better suited for guard...and I think we are pretty set there.
Not to pile on  
81_Great_Dane : 3/22/2019 3:02 pm : link
but if using a #17 pick on a RT is "burning" a draft pick, what is the appropriate pick to use on a RT? Quality linemen are hard to find, and even good guards and centers go in the first two rounds. Tackles go even earlier.
Daryl Williams, the Gettleman selected OT at Carolina  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/22/2019 3:04 pm : link
who became a Pro Bowler and 2nd team all pro, was selected with the 102nd pick overall.

This draft looks deep enough in OL for Gettleman to be able to select an above average OT at 95 or 108...

Just a guess, but I see a fair # of OT that could fit the bill and might be available at that point. And there's always pick 37 too. Unless picks get burned moving up for Haskins.
I'm betting that Dalton Risner  
ChicagoMarty : 3/22/2019 3:28 pm : link
will be available at #37.

This way we can take a cover cb with #17 e.g. DeAndre Baker and possibly Devin White LB at #6.

There are ERs available in the fourth and fifth rounds where we have a plethora of picks.
I don't see many plug and play RTs lasting past the end  
yatqb : 3/22/2019 3:33 pm : link
of the 1st.
If we get a starting RT  
Amtoft : 3/22/2019 3:35 pm : link
then it won't be burning the pick. It will be making our OL the best it has been in forever.
Doesn't Remmer have a herniated disc  
Chip : 3/22/2019 3:39 pm : link
and can't pass a physical
RE: I don't see many plug and play RTs lasting past the end  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/22/2019 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14353336 yatqb said:
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of the 1st.


D. Williams only started 2 of 10 games he played as a rookie in his draft year. So I cede the point re plug and play, likely to being picked by 37.
Depends on who is there  
RAIN : 3/22/2019 3:41 pm : link
Dilliard, for sure is in play if he makes it to #37.

Iím expecting a RT at #37. McGary at #37 would be ideal, tho, I expect him to go earlier. Great feet.

I could see someone Risner in 3.
Burn?  
jeff57 : 3/22/2019 3:41 pm : link
Wouldnít call it that. Ford, Taylor, Williams, even Reisner would be quality picks.
i think we need lbíers Erís and dbís more than we need a RT. So i  
plato : 3/22/2019 3:58 pm : link
would not draft a RT in first round. We need an awesome defense. We must stop the run and stop the pain of completions for 15 yard for first downs when its 3 and 14.

weíll see whose available and how the draft plays out, but we better leave with the potential of a much improved defense.
Bad choice of words using burn  
TMS : 3/22/2019 5:01 pm : link
but thought in a talented defense heavy draft, with a few potential QB possibilities, also in the mix at that position in the 1st round, we could do better value wise, if that pick was available. Believe DG will do the right thing myself.
ideally  
Platos : 3/22/2019 5:13 pm : link
we get a guy that can start at RT and eventually replace LT.

RE: ideally  
PEEJ : 3/22/2019 5:16 pm : link
In comment 14353495 Platos said:
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we get a guy that can start at RT and eventually replace LT.

This is the ideal plan. I prefer "invest" rather than "burn"
Imagine, finally having another Kareem Mac...  
flycatcher : 3/22/2019 5:26 pm : link
that's the value of this 17...the potential to grab the top RT in the whole damn draft....AFTER selecting a world class ER/DL.
Cant wait!
Depending on how things unfold . . . .  
TC : 3/22/2019 5:32 pm : link
I would not be surprised to see an edge rusher taken at #6 and a RT at #17, and it could be a very good strategy, though there are plenty of other good choices also.

If they do elect this course, and either Taylor, Williams, Dillard or Ford are still there at #17, I would be delighted with the pick.

A) It's a need.

B) And OL looks to be a strength of this draft, and drafting into the strength usually yields good value.
I think you can get a good one with our 2nd rd pick  
montanagiant : 3/22/2019 5:39 pm : link
Risner (who can play all over the line) or Dillard (great pass blocker)
The Ideal Situation  
OntheRoad : 3/22/2019 6:09 pm : link
would be an RT at #17 who has the potential to move to LT when Solder moves on.
You guys are  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3/22/2019 6:31 pm : link
over analyzing his choice of the word "burn".

Holy fuck, I'm pretty sure he just meant use the pick.

RE: You guys are  
giantstock : 3/22/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14353577 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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over analyzing his choice of the word "burn".

Holy fuck, I'm pretty sure he just meant use the pick.


I'm sure some posters believe we should go all-in on defense with at least picks 6 and 17. The OP has since said he didn't mean burn but don't kid yourself there are people on here that feel we should no way get an OL in rd 1 thus "burn" would be appropriate.
RE: I'm betting that Dalton Risner  
WillVAB : 3/22/2019 7:53 pm : link
In comment 14353326 ChicagoMarty said:
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will be available at #37.

This way we can take a cover cb with #17 e.g. DeAndre Baker and possibly Devin White LB at #6.

There are ERs available in the fourth and fifth rounds where we have a plethora of picks.


Get ready to have a temper tantrum bc I doubt DG takes a CB before round 4.

17 would be fine for a RT but I think there will be better front 7 talent available.

37 will probably be the RT pick unless the draft has an odd run out.
One of the first 3 picks  
Phil in LA : 3/22/2019 7:57 pm : link
has to be a tackle - this problem has festered for 8 years and it's time to have a dependable line again.
Yodny Cajuste  
mittenedman : 3/22/2019 10:02 pm : link
seems to fit at RT. Big physical guy who can run block and likes to finish. Could be a target in round 2.
Maybe Remmers canít pass a physical yet.  
Ivan15 : 3/22/2019 10:10 pm : link
I would not be surprised if he doesnít sign anywhere until after the draft.
Remmers is a candidate for swing tackle/OG imo...  
Torrag : 3/22/2019 10:22 pm : link
Not ideal for him to be the starter on the edge...a job he lost lst season in Minnesota.

That said he would be an upgrade from Wheeler, he's just not a long term solution.

I'm hoping for Cody Ford at #17 or Risner at #37. I see plug-n-play guys in those two and it stops the revolving door for years to come.

I should add I expect Jonah, Taylor and Dillard all to be off the board by #17.

It should be BPA  
Breeze_94 : 3/23/2019 12:42 am : link
Its not like this team is an upgrade at RT away from SB contention. Take the best player available instead of forcing a pick.
I honestly think one of  
DonnieD89 : 3/23/2019 2:05 pm : link
J. Williams, Dillard, or Ford will be there at #17, and I believe the value will be there. I also think Risner could possibly fall into that value spot. I donít think Risner will be available at #37.
No problem with a RT at #17  
Bluesbreaker : 3/23/2019 6:30 pm : link
But I also look for a guy that ca move over eventually
for Nate Soldier ..
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