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Janoris Jenkins faces $700,000 claim

GFAN52 : 3/22/2019 7:00 pm
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The owners of a Fair Lawn house where the brother of New York Giants cornerback Janoris Jenkins is accused of killing a man claim the NFL player is responsible for the subsequent loss in home value.

The property owners identified in a court document filed Thursday as S.R. and N.R. Tummalapenta say the value of their Van Saun Place house has gone down by at least 30 percent. They are seeking at least $700,000 from Janoris Jenkins.

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That is absolutely rediculous  
DavidinBMNY : 3/22/2019 7:04 pm : link
This is some one just looking for free money.
RE: That is absolutely rediculous  
UConn4523 : 3/22/2019 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14353612 DavidinBMNY said:
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This is some one just looking for free money.


I donít agree. Put yourself in their shoes. If you sold your house at a 30% loss would you be happy?

The murder isnít Jenkinsí fault but that doesnt change the fact that it happened and the homeowners have to pay those consequences.
It's easy to make a claim, but much harder to get  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 3/22/2019 7:13 pm : link
a court ruling in your favor and then to actually collect the money.

These people are probably hoping that they are a big enough pest that Jenkins will pay them 25 or 50K to just go away.
RE: RE: That is absolutely rediculous  
Eli owns all : 3/22/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14353614 UConn4523 said:
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This is some one just looking for free money.

100% agree. You going to sell your home for 30% less? Iím sure as hell not especially if you did nothing to bring the house value down.

I donít agree. Put yourself in their shoes. If you sold your house at a 30% loss would you be happy?

The murder isnít Jenkinsí fault but that doesnt change the fact that it happened and the homeowners have to pay those consequences.
This  
jtfuoco : 3/22/2019 7:29 pm : link
is why I don't live by neighbors to many people are assholes like uconn4523 looking for every reason in the world to place their issues on somebody else or looking for free money.
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JohnB : 3/22/2019 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14353614 UConn4523 said:
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This is some one just looking for free money.



I donít agree. Put yourself in their shoes. If you sold your house at a 30% loss would you be happy?

The murder isnít Jenkinsí fault but that doesnt change the fact that it happened and the homeowners have to pay those consequences.


That's the risk you take when you rent out your property. Risk sometimes brings rewards and sometimes it goes south. This time it went south and they are looking to blame someone else when the risk they took didn't pay off.

I wish I could do that with some of my stocks.... like GE. Who do I blame when that risk really went south? No one. Who do I sue now that I lose a ton of cash? No one.
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UConn4523 : 3/22/2019 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14353634 jtfuoco said:
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is why I don't live by neighbors to many people are assholes like uconn4523 looking for every reason in the world to place their issues on somebody else or looking for free money.


Haha, fuck you man. Iím not the type of person to sue someone, never have and donít plan on doing it. But taking a loss like that sucks and thatís what insurance is for. Should the home owners be happy their property value has plummeted due to a murder? They should just suck it up right?

Fucking idiot.
Deep pockets  
Phil in LA : 3/22/2019 7:50 pm : link
money grab.
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Eli owns all : 3/22/2019 7:50 pm : link
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This is some one just looking for free money.



I donít agree. Put yourself in their shoes. If you sold your house at a 30% loss would you be happy?

The murder isnít Jenkinsí fault but that doesnt change the fact that it happened and the homeowners have to pay those consequences.



That's the risk you take when you rent out your property. Risk sometimes brings rewards and sometimes it goes south. This time it went south and they are looking to blame someone else when the risk they took didn't pay off.

I wish I could do that with some of my stocks.... like GE. Who do I blame when that risk really went south? No one. Who do I sue now that I lose a ton of cash? No one.



Oh please you people would be the first people coming on bbi and pouring your heart out that youíre getting screwed. Equating stocks to equity in your home is Apple to oranges. Maybe if the ge owner rented his house out and had a murder and stocks went down i would entertain it. This person got screwed on renting to someone who had someone murdered. Yes I would be pissed too.
And itís a lawsuit  
UConn4523 : 3/22/2019 7:50 pm : link
it has to go through court. If itís unjust they wonít get anything but itís certainly not frivolous. No one expects a murder to happen in their home when renting, that isnít ďshit happensĒ territory.
What's their cause of action?  
Hammer : 3/22/2019 8:01 pm : link
Negligence?

Jenkins owed them a legal duty to act with reasonable care to what, prevent another person from murdering someone in the house?

Was it reasonably foreseeable that Jenkins guest would kill someone in the house?

Wouldn't the murder's act in killing the person itself be a superseding intervening event?

And what did Jenkins do to that would constitute a breach of his "legal" duty? Assuming in the first place that there was a legal duty.

And, finally, can the homeowners show a proximate cause from the loss in home value to the killing? This is probably the easiest thing for them to do, as long as they find experts that are willing to connect the dots under oath.

This sounds ridiculous to me. If Jenkins was the killer, yeah, if he was in the house when it happened, maybe. But he was neither.
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KeoweeFan : 3/22/2019 8:04 pm : link
In comment 14353614 UConn4523 said:
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This is some one just looking for free money.



I donít agree. Put yourself in their shoes. If you sold your house at a 30% loss would you be happy?

The murder isnít Jenkinsí fault but that doesnt change the fact that it happened and the homeowners have to pay those consequences.

"Some times an accident is just an accident" (SCOTUS)
Just because you suffered an injury doesn't automatically mean someone else has to be found responsible and liable for damages.
We can feel sorry for the neighbor, but if it ain't Jenkin's fault, it ain't Jenkin's fault.
But if you want to go after his brother, well....
I donít know the legal ramifications  
UConn4523 : 3/22/2019 8:26 pm : link
but i do know that if my property value dropped due to a tenant of mine being tied to a murder on my property Iím going to do everything I can to make sure my investment isnít hurt. And so would anyone on this board.
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JohnB : 3/22/2019 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14353654 Eli owns all said:
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This is some one just looking for free money.



I donít agree. Put yourself in their shoes. If you sold your house at a 30% loss would you be happy?

The murder isnít Jenkinsí fault but that doesnt change the fact that it happened and the homeowners have to pay those consequences.



That's the risk you take when you rent out your property. Risk sometimes brings rewards and sometimes it goes south. This time it went south and they are looking to blame someone else when the risk they took didn't pay off.

I wish I could do that with some of my stocks.... like GE. Who do I blame when that risk really went south? No one. Who do I sue now that I lose a ton of cash? No one.




Oh please you people would be the first people coming on bbi and pouring your heart out that youíre getting screwed. Equating stocks to equity in your home is Apple to oranges. Maybe if the ge owner rented his house out and had a murder and stocks went down i would entertain it. This person got screwed on renting to someone who had someone murdered. Yes I would be pissed too.


First off, Janoris Jenkins was in Florida at the time of the incident

Both victim and suspect were living in the house.

They got into a fight and one person killed the other.

So why is Jenkins being sued? What did HE do? It might make sense to sue his brother because he was the one doing the killing... But the problem is that the brother is broke while Janoris has a ton of cash.

I know..... we'll sue Janoris.... that makes NO sense unless it is a pure cash grab. Sue the brother if the case has merit.

So you don't blame the person at fault, blame the guy with the money. Too funny.
RE: I donít know the legal ramifications  
section125 : 3/22/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14353685 UConn4523 said:
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but i do know that if my property value dropped due to a tenant of mine being tied to a murder on my property Iím going to do everything I can to make sure my investment isnít hurt. And so would anyone on this board.


If the comps show that the neighborhood doesn't match the complaint, then it is BS. If other houses went for more, then why did they sell? Who forced the owners to sell 1 year after the murder? It is like selling your car after a wreck and not fixing it.

Sadly though dumbass juries think that insurance will pay aand many times ignore the facts.

So the house was worth $2.3 mill?
I donít know  
UConn4523 : 3/22/2019 9:00 pm : link
isnít that what lawyers are for?

They are suing him, it doesnít mean they are winning. What would you do if this was your property, just chalk it up to bad luck and move on?
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section125 : 3/22/2019 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14353723 UConn4523 said:
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isnít that what lawyers are for?

They are suing him, it doesnít mean they are winning. What would you do if this was your property, just chalk it up to bad luck and move on?


How about wait a while? Let it pass. Nobody forced them to sell. That is where they will have an issue. People over value their houses all the time and take their house off the market. I don't know the market in North Jersey, but that seems like an awful large discount.
If they rented to the Mob and someone got Hit, I donít think they  
Ivan15 : 3/22/2019 9:47 pm : link
Would be suing.
RE: RE: That is absolutely rediculous  
EricJ : 3/22/2019 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14353614 UConn452
The murder isnít Jenkinsí fault but that doesnt change the fact that it happened and the homeowners have to pay those consequences. [/quote]

That is the risk you take when you rent a home.
If his name  
kennyd : 3/22/2019 11:19 pm : link
is one the lease I would imagine there is some amount of responsibility to what happens in your house. In college I rented a place with a few guys and had some parties where thing were broken (and a hole or two in the walls happened) and we lost our security deposit. Not exactly the same as this situation obviously but I would think the leasee has some responsibilty for the loss of value. I don't know, this is a tough call but I get the homeowner's point of view.
You can sue for almost anything. Discovery is crucial.  
81_Great_Dane : 3/22/2019 11:21 pm : link
The plaintiffs are probably looking for something in discovery that shows Jenkins knew there was a problem before the killing. If there are text messages proving that he knew of threats or major arguments, and did nothing, this lawsuit could get some traction.
Janoris is not at fault  
mrvax : 3/23/2019 12:26 am : link
period. If the killer was related to Joe Blow, would he get sued? Case dismissed.
In fairness, they're claiming that 300k out of that 700k  
jcn56 : 3/23/2019 12:41 am : link
is a result of damages that were the result of the tenants. I don't know how realistic those estimates are, but knowing first hand what kind of shit some tenants can pull, I wouldn't be surprised if they could cause a lot (if not quite 300k worth) of damage to a large house like that.

The rest? The landlords are claiming that Jenkins basically sublet the house without their permission to his brother and the guy he killed. I'm no lawyer, but the whole thing smells like a fishing expedition that will get settled for significantly less than what they're asking, but will still cover their cost to repair plus some of the inconvenience. I doubt it goes anywhere near addressing the decline in property value, nor should it.
The loss in value of the house would have to be proven in court,  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 3/23/2019 1:27 am : link
which is doubtful since he probably picked the number out of the air.

Taking this to court would be a long and expensive process that they wouldn't undertake unless very sure of winning.

Much more likely that they are just going for a quick settlement at a fraction of the $700,000.
What s the state law  
Giant John : 3/23/2019 6:35 am : link
Regarding dimunition of value? Attorneys?
Without seeing the lease agreement  
Bubba : 3/23/2019 6:48 am : link
how can anyone determine the actual issue. There may be clauses that allow for "loss of value" due to negligence of tenant etc.
JJ may not have committed the act but if the lease is in his name he can be held accountable.

total crock  
Chip : 3/23/2019 9:45 am : link
Nobody forces anyone to sell. If he didn't like the price he should not have sold.
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