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What teams are biggest threats to jump us for Haskins?

Pan-handler : 3/22/2019 7:22 pm
Also with the kind of jump they'd have to make, how big would the price be?

I could see DaveTe's rumor being true that we are considering moving up to #4 but I think it would be for Dwayne.

'No guts, no glory' as DG said. Now maybe Oak only sells the pick if Q.Will is gone b/c Mayock sees what a stud this kid is.

If we want Dwayne unless the Jets want to put the screws to us, I think we can get him because we would be giving the team we trade up with the best pick (#6) over any other team that could potentially want him.

I don't know how big the threat will be to lose out on Dwayne.

Tampa also could be a big time candidate for a trade partner if the big 3 blue chip defenders are gone by their pick: Q.Will, Boas, Allen.

#13 Miami (may want to tank this year and got Fitzy for QB)
#11 Bengals (could be our biggest threat but they are 5 spots below us)
#15 Washington (another threat but 9 spots below us)
#10 Elway got Flacco and are heavily rumored to love Lock.

I really don't see anybody trading up.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/22/2019 7:26 pm : link
Washington may be the most likely but can they afford to give up all those picks and put that much money into the QB position? And why would any team in the top 5 want to go that far down? We should stay at 6.
RE: I really don't see anybody trading up.  
Pan-handler : 3/22/2019 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14353631 robbieballs2003 said:
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Washington may be the most likely but can they afford to give up all those picks and put that much money into the QB position? And why would any team in the top 5 want to go that far down? We should stay at 6.


Tampas board may flatten greatly after Q.Will,Bosa and Allen are gone (depending on how highly they rank D.White)
I'd  
AcidTest : 3/22/2019 7:33 pm : link
be surprised if anyone jumps us for Haskins.
Trading Up For Haskins  
Trainmaster : 3/22/2019 7:34 pm : link
is borderline "throw the remote" territory.
I think the only threat is Washington  
Jay on the Island : 3/22/2019 7:34 pm : link
but I don't know if they would give up a 2020 1st plus a lot more to move up that far. Miami has it's eyes set on Tua and are in full tank mode so I doubt they trade up for Haskins. I think they might use a 3rd round pick on a QB like Grier.
Fins? Skins?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/22/2019 7:35 pm : link
Both come to mind.
Bengals maybe  
Giantimistic : 3/22/2019 7:36 pm : link
.
I think the only real threats  
DonnieD89 : 3/22/2019 7:40 pm : link
are Oakland and Tampa. But, my gut tells me that they stick with their current QBs. Both the NY Jets and Oakland have a chance to take a Blue Chipper on D and I see Tampa taking Devin White. I also agree with Robbie's argument. It's going to take an awful lot to trade up. Not saying that some team is going to jump ahead of the Giants, and if it does happen, I would start pursuing a trade for Rosen, assuming the Cardinals take Murray.
I would trade up for  
Pork Chop : 3/22/2019 7:51 pm : link
Quinnen Williams, but that's it.
RE: I think the only real threats  
Pan-handler : 3/22/2019 7:52 pm : link
In comment 14353645 DonnieD89 said:
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are Oakland and Tampa. But, my gut tells me that they stick with their current QBs. Both the NY Jets and Oakland have a chance to take a Blue Chipper on D and I see Tampa taking Devin White. I also agree with Robbie's argument. It's going to take an awful lot to trade up. Not saying that some team is going to jump ahead of the Giants, and if it does happen, I would start pursuing a trade for Rosen, assuming the Cardinals take Murray.


The Rosen trade may very well happen prior to the draft. Taking another team out of the running for Haskins.
The biggest threat is  
Dave on the UWS : 3/22/2019 7:56 pm : link
Oakland. Mayock stood right behind Haskins for every throw of his workout, and he's no dummy. If this kid is the goods he's taking him at 4. If we want him we will have to go to 2 or 3 and it WILL cost us. "No guts no glory"
RE: The biggest threat is  
Pan-handler : 3/22/2019 8:06 pm : link
In comment 14353661 Dave on the UWS said:
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Oakland. Mayock stood right behind Haskins for every throw of his workout, and he's no dummy. If this kid is the goods he's taking him at 4. If we want him we will have to go to 2 or 3 and it WILL cost us. "No guts no glory"


Those teams will have to forego a blue-chip defender. Arizona will do it for Murray. But would one of those teams be willing to pass up one of Q.Will, Bosa, or Allen? Oak is possible but they have a legit still young Qb in Carr and Gruden is good with vet Qbs. Tampa is an interesting spot because the 3 blue-chip guys could be gone by the time they pick. They could ransom the pick to us for a 2nd or 3rd. It has happened many times before (moving up one spot that is).
Bucs..  
BigBlue1013 : 3/22/2019 8:16 pm : link
I look at it this way, If I'm the 49ers, Jets and Raiders why would I trade all the way down to either 10,11,13,15? you're losing out on a Defensive Stud for 2nd Tier DEs or DTs.

The reason the Bucs worry me, is not because they'll take Haskins, but they look like a team willing to trade down to 10,11,13,15 for extra picks.
RE: Trading Up For Haskins  
Giants38 : 3/22/2019 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14353639 Trainmaster said:
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is borderline "throw the remote" territory.


Seriously, stop it with the stupidity. Itís just idiotic.
RE: Bucs..  
Pan-handler : 3/22/2019 8:34 pm : link
In comment 14353674 BigBlue1013 said:
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I look at it this way, If I'm the 49ers, Jets and Raiders why would I trade all the way down to either 10,11,13,15? you're losing out on a Defensive Stud for 2nd Tier DEs or DTs.

The reason the Bucs worry me, is not because they'll take Haskins, but they look like a team willing to trade down to 10,11,13,15 for extra picks.


Exactly.
RE: I really don't see anybody trading up.  
djm : 3/22/2019 8:53 pm : link
In comment 14353631 robbieballs2003 said:
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Washington may be the most likely but can they afford to give up all those picks and put that much money into the QB position? And why would any team in the top 5 want to go that far down? We should stay at 6.


I donít see anyone trade ups either. No guts no glory could be DGs way of saying heís going to gamble, stay at six and pray Haskins or even murray last that long. Murray wonít. Haskins very well could. After six and Haskins you get your cake and eat it too with a full array of picks. I might be down with rolling the dice. Worst comes to worse you take the bpa at six if both QBs are gone. Move on.
Whatís important here  
djm : 3/22/2019 8:58 pm : link
Is how good some of these non qb prospects are. Bosa, Williams are elite elite talents. Jets likely donít want to move away from either guy. Same with SF. Only two teams left and still 2-3 likely elite talents. Buff and oak wonít just be dying to move down. Teams from far away that might want the qb will need to give up a kingís ransom to get that high.

Iím never one to begrudge a trade up for a qb but this time around I think I want the giants to roll the dice and stay at 6, even if they are madly in love with Haskins.
.....  
Micko : 3/22/2019 8:59 pm : link
I donít see trade ups happening either. There really is no clear consensus that this is even a good QB draft class outside of Murray.
If Haskins Is Worth It at 6  
Giants38 : 3/22/2019 9:00 pm : link
Heís worth trading up for too. And if the Giants think heís the next best thing, risking it is idiotic.
RE: RE: I think the only real threats  
GFAN52 : 3/22/2019 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14353657 Pan-handler said:
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In comment 14353645 DonnieD89 said:


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are Oakland and Tampa. But, my gut tells me that they stick with their current QBs. Both the NY Jets and Oakland have a chance to take a Blue Chipper on D and I see Tampa taking Devin White. I also agree with Robbie's argument. It's going to take an awful lot to trade up. Not saying that some team is going to jump ahead of the Giants, and if it does happen, I would start pursuing a trade for Rosen, assuming the Cardinals take Murray.



The Rosen trade may very well happen prior to the draft. Taking another team out of the running for Haskins.


It absolutely should for the Cardinals to get the maximum return for him.
RE: Trading Up For Haskins  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/22/2019 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14353639 Trainmaster said:
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is borderline "throw the remote" territory.


Exactly.

If another team wants to give up assets to get Haskins, let them. We can take at op D guy in that case. It really becomes a net positive for us, and this is coming from a guy who wouldn't mind taking Haskins at 6.
Probably Cincinnati or Denver  
Mike in NJ : 3/22/2019 9:25 pm : link
Miami seem to have their sights on 2020, and Washington is probably too far down to jump ahead of us. They would have to give up a ton to entice one of the teams ahead of us to drop from the top 5 all the way down to the middle of the first round.

The team I am most worried about though is Oakland. Iím not sold on them being committed to Carr, but I know Mayock had positive things to say about him prior to landing the GM gig. Hopefully his opinion hasnít changed.
Any chance Arizona passes on Murray  
larryflower37 : 3/22/2019 9:31 pm : link
For Bosa or Q.Williams?
RE: Any chance Arizona passes on Murray  
GFAN52 : 3/22/2019 9:32 pm : link
In comment 14353757 larryflower37 said:
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For Bosa or Q.Williams?


I would be totally shocked if they did.
somebody trading up for Haskins  
Chip : 3/22/2019 9:36 pm : link
is the best thing that can happen to the Giants. It makes a defensive player drop to us.
Could DET Be In The Mix?  
MojoEd : 3/22/2019 9:48 pm : link
Newish coach; they donít seem enthused by Stafford. Could surprise?
RE: Trading Up For Haskins  
Deejboy : 3/22/2019 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14353639 Trainmaster said:
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is borderline "throw the remote" territory.

I really hope grown men retire the childish "throw the remote" to express their dislike of a NFL draft pick they know nothing about. It's 2019 so why don't we say "run to twitter and write something reactionary and stupid" instead?
Its a very interesting dynamic  
Pan-handler : 3/22/2019 10:57 pm : link
For this years draft . 3 blue chip players: Q.Will, Bosa, Allen.

1 QB who will likely be taken #1 and is considered a dynamic player.

These guys very likely go 1-4. Which makes #5 where the drop of blue to red chip is.

However Haskins will be a top rated QB on some people's boards which makes #5 a high value to a team that would want Haskins.

So unless Tampa has a guy like Greedy, White, Sweat, or Gary much higher than the other 'red' chippers they will likely be very willing to trade out of the spot.

I think Tampa is the team we would need to trade up to. 1 spot but the price that high up in the draft could cost a 3rd or maybe even a future 2nd. 'NO guts, no glory'
This would be huge...because it would push  
Pan-handler : 3/22/2019 11:03 pm : link
A blue chip defender to the #5 spot....

From SI:

GRUDEN LOVES LOCK?: Raiders fans hated when I mocked Missouri quarterback Drew Lock to the Raiders with the fourth overall pick. So in order to continue to rub in the controversial notion that Oakland may draft a rookie quarterback and trade Derek CarrÖ I recently spoke to another prospect who played on the Senior Bowlís North team, coached by Jon Gruden. He said that Gruden really, really liked Lock. The word ďloveĒ was used to describe Grudenís perceived feelings toward the Missouri QB. Our Robert Klemko did a nice story on the benefit teams get from coaching the Senior Bowl. And I continue to believe that Lock to the Raiders could happen
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RE: Any chance Arizona passes on Murray  
bw in dc : 3/22/2019 11:22 pm : link
In comment 14353757 larryflower37 said:
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For Bosa or Q.Williams?


With all the needs they have, they should trade out of #1.
TY PH  
MojoEd : 3/22/2019 11:51 pm : link
Interesting pull from SI re OAK and Lock; I buy it.
Today's NY Post  
Jay in Toronto : 3/23/2019 6:33 am : link
Has a good take

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RE: This would be huge...because it would push  
Bill L : 3/23/2019 6:47 am : link
In comment 14353829 Pan-handler said:
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A blue chip defender to the #5 spot....

From SI:

GRUDEN LOVES LOCK?: Raiders fans hated when I mocked Missouri quarterback Drew Lock to the Raiders with the fourth overall pick. So in order to continue to rub in the controversial notion that Oakland may draft a rookie quarterback and trade Derek CarrÖ I recently spoke to another prospect who played on the Senior Bowlís North team, coached by Jon Gruden. He said that Gruden really, really liked Lock. The word ďloveĒ was used to describe Grudenís perceived feelings toward the Missouri QB. Our Robert Klemko did a nice story on the benefit teams get from coaching the Senior Bowl. And I continue to believe that Lock to the Raiders could happen SI - ( New Window )


This would be my dream scenario...all three QBís drafted before we pick and we come away with an elite player.
I love how there are those that think  
Beer Man : 3/23/2019 7:03 am : link
Haskins is a foregone conclusion. If anything, DG showed us last year that he will go for the highest rated player on his board when the Giants pick; regardless of need. We will see who it is, but if your in love with this player or that, be prepared to be disappointed.
Washington and Denver are definately not trading in front of 6  
ZogZerg : 3/23/2019 8:49 am : link
for a QB. I could see Washington possibly trading in front of Denver for Lock.
RE: I love how there are those that think  
Pan-handler : 3/23/2019 8:56 am : link
In comment 14353912 Beer Man said:
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Haskins is a foregone conclusion. If anything, DG showed us last year that he will go for the highest rated player on his board when the Giants pick; regardless of need. We will see who it is, but if your in love with this player or that, be prepared to be disappointed.


Theyve been openly talking up QB last year as opposed to last year. Eli is on last year of contract and is 39.

You can also see they really like Haskins. I wouldn't call it a foregone conclusion but a very high possibility.
RE: RE: I think the only real threats  
Ivan15 : 3/23/2019 12:52 pm : link


The Rosen trade may very well happen prior to the draft. Taking another team out of the running for Haskins. [/quote]

I donít see any reason for the Cardinals to trade Rosen before the draft. His value remains the same, and it just announces their intentions early, and allows more maneuvering behind them.
RE: RE: RE: I think the only real threats  
Pan-handler : 3/23/2019 1:52 pm : link
In comment 14354240 Ivan15 said:
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The Rosen trade may very well happen prior to the draft. Taking another team out of the running for Haskins.


I donít see any reason for the Cardinals to trade Rosen before the draft. His value remains the same, and it just announces their intentions early, and allows more maneuvering behind them. [/quote]

Depends on how you look at it.
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Peppers : 3/24/2019 4:09 pm : link
Washington.
I can see the Bengals being interested in Haskins  
Eman11 : 3/24/2019 4:26 pm : link
And trying to trade up for him. Question is will one of the teams think it's worth it to trade back to the Bengals spot?
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