in the mid rounds. If Barkley were to go down, and I like Wayne Gallman, but I think we need more depth at the position. I would love to grab Miles Sanders at the end of round three. If you remember our running game in 08' we had 3 VERY productive backs ; Jacobs/Ward/Bradshaw. We really need to be careful about putting all our eggs in one basket with Barkley.
Depends on value. We have needs everywhere. I can definitely see some undrafted free agents coming in and having a shot.
...Paul Perkins and Robert Martin?
I don't think you consider it until the 5th round at earliest.
Can be a starter, he is good. Honestly was shocked he didnít get more carries last season. If the worst happens, Gallman can start and be productive, definitely need a competent 3rd string RB though and not having to rely on Jonathan Stewart at this point of his career.
With so many other holes on the team, I think its highly unlikely they take a RB. But if theres no one worth taking at other positions, they might do it.
I may be ahead of myself but I really like Robert Martin and hope he takes a big leap this year.
in the3rd round or beyond, I'd think long and hard about it.
Miles Sanders would jump off a bridge if he had to go back up Barkley again
And absolutely no chance at the end of round three. RB is the deepest and most talented unit on the team. Use our third.! Thatís absurd.
I thinks there may be an attempt to up grade the back up to Gallman. Miles Sanders has a somewhat similar game to Saquon, but obviously less talented. If he is available in the 4th round, I would consider him. I believe the Giants did bring him in for an interview, if I'm correct.
bring Jonathan Stewart back.
In the event another team doesn't snatch him up on a $4M guaranteed contract first...
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| I thinks there may be an attempt to up grade the back up to Gallman. Miles Sanders has a somewhat similar game to Saquon, but obviously less talented. If he is available in the 4th round, I would consider him. I believe the Giants did bring him in for an interview, if I'm correct.
Meant back up to Saquon.
1. Gallman, Martin & Perkins are all about the same weight: 205-210 lbs. If you need 1-2 yards and you don't want Barkley to do it, you'd prefer a bigger back.
2. Look at the stats for the NFL's top RBs of 2018. The top nine RBs (Barkley included), ALL weigh AT LEAST 220 lbs.--closer to 225.
3. If the Giants are going to change their game plan to focus more on the ground game, they shouldn't be forced to use a scat back when they need a power back either for blocking in pass protection or picking up short yardage.
4. Barkley shows how good it is to have a RB who is a receiving threat on third down. Adding another good receiver would not hurt.
Although RB is not their biggest need, IMO it is an area that can easily be improved.
Gallman is good and so is Perkins (if healthy). With two good guards, we should be able to get a yard from one of these guys. I'd much rather take late-round chances on WR's with smarts and good hands, even if they're not flashy.
are precious, especially this year.
The only Giants draft choice I would use on drafting a running back would be to get Bryce Love of Stanford.
And I would only use our later 4th or an early 5th to make that pick.
Stanford used plays in which Christian McCaffrey and Love were on the field at the same time with great success.
I could imagine plays with Barkley and Love on the field at the same time.
Martin and Gallman honestly look more than good enough. Total waste of an asset. Barkley goes down youíre screwed anyway.
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...Paul Perkins and Robert Martin?
I was thinking same thing. I think Perkins and Martin will compete for back up duty this year. I think weíre ok at RB. Itíd be a waste of resources, unless the value is too great to pass, but I think Giants will be looking at Defensive depth on day 3.
and this is coming from a guy who wants to limit Barkley's carries. I would love to see Gallman play more and Barkley split out more to save some wear and tear on him. Barkley needs to be on the field and especially with WR not the strongest group we should look at splitting him out more.
ALong with this strategy, I wouldn't mind picking up a fullback/big tailback type guy. I think Penny can do some of this but I would love to have the diversity to have a guy who can be Barkley's blocker at fullback, being able to flex him out in the slot or as the 2nd tight end but then have the versatility to provide a running threat as Barkley spreads out.
Gallman is a goood back though and Perkins if he can return to rookie form is good too.
Could be the RB your talking about in latter rounds.
not b4... Waiver Wire watch as well...
in the late rounds if he still there. Fast, good instincts and a quality receiver out of the backfield.
in short yardage situations.
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Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
| in the late rounds if he still there. Fast, good instincts and a quality receiver out of the backfield.
Great special teamer too. He has an unorthodox style that I think would make him a great change of pace guy. He's kind of like a more explosive version of Gallman. Would love to grab him with 1 of our 5th rounders.
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| in short yardage situations.
Exactly, I like Penny alot. In this draft I was only referring to Patrick, somebody mentioned bigger back in this draft. We have that already in Penny. Check xxxx
as an UDFA. Good size and speed, buried underneath Taylor on the depth chart.
Agreed, we have to look out for a SB backup or two if we go balls out build a team around him. Don't think there is one back that remotely matches his skillset.
From the 5th - 7th rounds will have a long-term NFL is fairly low. So other than P, K and long-snapper, the Giants should take the most talented player available in the later rounds. If that's a RB when it's their time to choose...so be it.
if Barkley goes down they are TOTALLY screwed. Everything is now being built around him. Gallman and Perkins plus Penny will be just fine as backups. A late rd pick for camp fodder or PS maybe.
6 or 7th round Kid can flat out play. Heís under the radar
Not before the 5th round. But in the 5th or later, if the value is there , why not, then you suffer an injury and you have players. If we are going to be a run first team, which it looks like, then we need running backs besides Barkley, I also like Gallman, and I haven't given up on Perkins yet, but maybe competition for the third running back spot would be smart, you get three guys battling it out and one should be good.
Jacobs/Bradshaw/Ward with the current Giants RB situation.
None of those 3 were close to as good as Barkley and I liked all 3 and none had significant investment.
You could even argue due to their specific skills they were all complementary backs. Worked well together, but none would likely thrive as a feature back multiple years.
I think the Giants could take a RB, but I'd look for a pure change of pace back like a Meggett or a specialist of some type like a short yardage back who could block well.
Gallman can spell Barkley.
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Dave on the UWS said:
| if Barkley goes down they are TOTALLY screwed. Everything is now being built around him. Gallman and Perkins plus Penny will be just fine as backups. A late rd pick for camp fodder or PS maybe.
Agreed but 1 condition:
If the Giants have a guy highly rated that somehow slipped, yes, use one of the many day 3 picks.
he'll likely never see the field. Barkley will get so many touches that the left overs will be few and far between and given to Gallman.
Since the Cowboys grabbed Zeke early, and the Giants grabbed Saquon early, I hope the league is starting to put more emphasis on RBs and teams now take them early and often leaving more stud linemen, DBs, etc., for the Giants to sweep up.
I imagine the Giants will have a few RBs in camp. Doubt they keep any. Would like to see Perkins finally put it all together and be our 3rd back
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| Gallman can spell Barkley.
You would think so but he left out the "e".
Also Holyfield from Ga. tonake a couple mid round picks.
Late...right now Barkley, Gallman and Perkins (and anyone I forgot).
Yes, likely late....4th or later.
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Giant John said:
| Also Holyfield from Ga. tonake a couple mid round picks.
Dame Harris will be off the board before we can really look for RB depth I think.
My answer is no way. Barkley is the offense and Gallman is a fine backup