Missing the playoffs in his age 33/34 season? Oh yeah, that's right, he won 69 games. 69-13.
Yeah yeah, LeBron missed 20 games, but he's played in 52 and the Lakers have 31 wins all year. Terrible. That would not happen with Jordan. MJ won 37 games with the Wizards in his age 38/39 season and only played in 60 games that year.
It's a joke anyone put LeBron in the same conversation as best ever with Jordan, a total joke.
Lebron made the playoffs for 14 years in a row, often with no supporting cast. This is dumb.
Ps, team game and all that.
See how that goes?
See how that goes?
Or how NO brings up the insane amount of evidence to support the claim that David Stern sort of secretly ushered Jordan into “baseball retirement” because of a lengthy, damaging and downright terrifying gambling issue with Jordan? Dude, his dad was murdered. I wonder why?????
Jordan and stern were as shady as they come.
To make sure conspiracy theorists get their fill.
So stupid.
ditto. . MJ is my hero, despite my dying Knicks fandom
Lebron made the playoffs for 14 years in a row, often with no supporting cast. This is dumb.
Often with no supporting cast? Um...no. The guy builds super teams. Earlier years...maybe.
And it isn’t hard to make the playoffs in the NBA when you have a player of Lebrons talent. Especially not in the East.
Michael played against the Anthony Mason’s and John Starks and Xavier McDaniel. Lebron has had a much easier path.
Not to mention, the greatest player of all time might have been Jabbar.
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Lebron made the playoffs for 14 years in a row, often with no supporting cast. This is dumb.
Often with no supporting cast? Um...no. The guy builds super teams. Earlier years...maybe.
And it isn’t hard to make the playoffs in the NBA when you have a player of Lebrons talent. Especially not in the East.
Last years Cavs team was a super team? Because without Lebron they are a bottom 3 team in the league. The same roster he dragged to the finals.
Lebron deserves some blame for this year but if he doesn’t get hurt, the Lakers were going to the playoffs. The real blame falls on magic and Pelinka. They deserve to be fired.
Jordan Fanboys waited 8 years to finally make this thread. Congrats?
Jordan Fanboys waited 8 years to finally make this thread. Congrats?
I think the joy is the combination of Lebron failing because he didn’t get his superteam yet combined with the Lakers failure.
We can all agree that the lakers sucking is enjoyable to all.
I think the joy is the combination of Lebron failing because he didn’t get his superteam yet combined with the Lakers failure.
We can all agree that the lakers sucking is enjoyable to all.
Oh definitely fuck the Lakers. Only thing I'm concerned about is how they finish out. Watch them end up getting the #1 pick in the draft. I'd be done with the NBA.
I’ll say this too though, I think MJ was a world class scumbag. As a Knicks fan, I fucking hated that guy. King James doesn’t seem like a bad guy and he’s clearly the best player of his time.
Follow the money. Jordan was gone for a year. He wasn’t gone forever.
I’m sorry, but that whole Jordan baseball thing just reeked of bullshit. Said it then, saying it now. The most competitive and successful athlete of our generation just says ehhh fuck it I want to play a new sport now. And then he comes back one year later? Fuck outta here with that crap. That’s a conspiracy I can buy in to because the “explanation” of it all was ridiculous and hard to believe.
What better way to ensure Jordan’s legacy while punishing him and distancing the nba from the whole gambling thing then to hide Jordan away in butthump farm league baseball. It worked perfectly.
He was talking during the '92-'93 season-before the gambling stuff really hit the fan-about retiring.
But come on. Stern didn't force MJ out. That'd be so freaking stupid $ wise.
So is this...
James would have crushed defenders in isolation with no 5 second rule.
The only joke here is to claim its a joke to compare James to Jordan. Hes in the conversation. No joke about that.
Michael played against the Anthony Mason’s and John Starks and Xavier McDaniel. Lebron has had a much easier path.
Not to mention, the greatest player of all time might have been Jabbar.
Jordan may have played in that era against those players, but let's face it. The 2nd half of his Bulls career, doing those things to Jordan got you a quick whistle. Even Magic once joked "don't breathe on him, you'll get called for a foul".
Also - if you don't think the Lakers will win the lottery and get Zion Williamson to play with LeBron next year, you haven't been paying attention.
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Follow the money. Jordan was gone for a year. He wasn’t gone forever.
I’m sorry, but that whole Jordan baseball thing just reeked of bullshit. Said it then, saying it now. The most competitive and successful athlete of our generation just says ehhh fuck it I want to play a new sport now. And then he comes back one year later? Fuck outta here with that crap. That’s a conspiracy I can buy in to because the “explanation” of it all was ridiculous and hard to believe.
Don't forget that part where he says "I'd like to think Stern for letting me play the game of basketball" when he comes back.
It's a funny conspiracy. The '85 draft is much more likely to be true.
He was talking during the '92-'93 season-before the gambling stuff really hit the fan-about retiring.
But come on. Stern didn't force MJ out. That'd be so freaking stupid $ wise.
MJ retirement was all about him chasing a dream. He said back then baseball was his first love. He had won 3 championships in a row. Then retired, then won 3 more in a row. Talk to me about LeBron making Finals in a dogshit East over the past decade, like whoop di doo. Jordan destroyed all comers.
MJ retirement was all about him chasing a dream. He said back then baseball was his first love. He had won 3 championships in a row. Then retired, then won 3 more in a row. Talk to me about LeBron making Finals in a dogshit East over the past decade, like whoop di doo. Jordan destroyed all comers.
Hope you're wearing kneepads.
He was talking during the '92-'93 season-before the gambling stuff really hit the fan-about retiring.
But come on. Stern didn't force MJ out. That'd be so freaking stupid $ wise.
This is correct. Plus, if you recall, Jordan loved baseball. It was his first love for sports. His father wanted him to keep playing. After his dad died Jordan was in this rut and decided he needed to honor his dad by giving baseball a go. Fortunately, Reinsdorf also owned the White Sox, so it created an easy pathway to play baseball.
Bird was significantly more clutch and Magic was an exponentially better leader and winner.
I was a young teenager but Jordan’s best years were his first five in Chicago when he didn’t win. His team was undermanned trying to deal with the Celtics and Pistons, but he was the most amazing combination of athlete and basketball I’ve ever seen. The blend of speed, quickness, jumping ability and basketball IQ were extraordinary. There were no nights off and there really was a will to kill.
When reflecting, I feel very fortunate to have seen Jordan in his prime. And nothing matched the 12+ times I saw him live.
Bird was significantly more clutch and Magic was an exponentially better leader and winner.
Stopped reading after this. You're insufferable.
Bird was significantly more clutch and Magic was an exponentially better leader and winner.
I was a young teenager but Jordan’s best years were his first five in Chicago when he didn’t win. His team was undermanned trying to deal with the Celtics and Pistons, but he was the most amazing combination of athlete and basketball I’ve ever seen. The blend of speed, quickness, jumping ability and basketball IQ were extraordinary. There were no nights off and there really was a will to kill.
When reflecting, I feel very fortunate to have seen Jordan in his prime. And nothing matched the 12+ times I saw him live.
Bird struggled in the playoffs way more than LeBron has. LeBrons FT shooting is pretty weak, but he’s one of the clutchest players in the history of the sport. His Big Game track record is pretty insane.
But because he doesn’t have the “Assassin” mindset of Kobe or Birs, he’s considered less clutch despite a better clutch resume. Pretty sad.
Bird struggled in the playoffs way more than LeBron has. LeBrons FT shooting is pretty weak, but he’s one of the clutchest players in the history of the sport. His Big Game track record is pretty insane.
But because he doesn’t have the “Assassin” mindset of Kobe or Birs, he’s considered less clutch despite a better clutch resume. Pretty sad.
LeBron's playoff numbers are gaudier than Bird's - true.
But Bird "struggled" in the playoffs? Really? Interesting. His traditional stats are virtually the same in the regular season vs playoffs. And I guess those two Finals MVP are signs of under-performance.
Look, it's hard to even discuss that era, especially in the playoffs. The East back then was brutal with the Sixers, Pistons, Bulls, Knicks, Bucks, etc. The style of play was rough in the regular season and brutal in the playoffs.