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Dave Te Podcast-Delving into the Middle Linebacker Class

nflscouting : 3/23/2019 4:59 pm
A FEW TRAFFIC COPS READY TO POLICE THE MIDDLE FOR NFL TEAMS NEXT YEAR
It looks like this will be the Devin (white) and Devin (Bush) show when it comes to middle linebackers waiting in the green room to cross the podium on draft day. Most of the other talent here are blue collar types, but a few teams like Green Bay and Pittsburgh are looking at a highly rated rush end as a possible transition to the second level. Here is what Dave-Te and Paul Crane discussed in their latest podcast.


NFL Draft Overview - Inside Linebackers
Paul Crane and super scout Dave-Te' Thomas look at the top 16 inside linebackers in this year's NFL draft. From Devin White of LSU and Devin Bush of Michigan through Natrez Patrick of Georgia, some Day 3 super sleepers and everyone in between, hear strengths, weaknesses and teams showing interest. Also, the one player several teams are now looking at LB who has not played there before because of what is said here.
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The best part of Daveís analyses  
TommytheElephant : 3/23/2019 6:01 pm : link
Are his percentages

Really alarming red flags against the run for the 2 Devins !

Wife had me on an errand and this podcast made me take the long long long way home
Keep up the GREAT work!
Tommy  
nflscouting : 3/23/2019 6:47 pm : link
You know Tommy, I can live with my LB being not so great vs the pass, as usually my safeties cover up for them. Even my OLBs, if they are not great run stuffers, usually the MLB comes over to help. BUT, if my MLB guys get poing-ponged or like White, simply fly past tackles (10 misses vs the run last year - ouch), I have to look at them this way - WILB, that way I know my other interior guy can direct traffic & use the WILB as his wing man.
Hey, will have monster scouting reports up this week on an ESPN site. Also, little hint - Giants are also eyeballing the Burns kid for a possible move to LB. At #17, they are in that "what is left on the board" mode, but the more I see Burns on tape, the more I am convinced he would be much more valuable in the second level or more in a Leonard Floyd/Von Miller types of schemes
RE: Tommy  
Pan-handler : 3/23/2019 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14354622 nflscouting said:
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You know Tommy, I can live with my LB being not so great vs the pass, as usually my safeties cover up for them. Even my OLBs, if they are not great run stuffers, usually the MLB comes over to help. BUT, if my MLB guys get poing-ponged or like White, simply fly past tackles (10 misses vs the run last year - ouch), I have to look at them this way - WILB, that way I know my other interior guy can direct traffic & use the WILB as his wing man.
Hey, will have monster scouting reports up this week on an ESPN site. Also, little hint - Giants are also eyeballing the Burns kid for a possible move to LB. At #17, they are in that "what is left on the board" mode, but the more I see Burns on tape, the more I am convinced he would be much more valuable in the second level or more in a Leonard Floyd/Von Miller types of schemes


Theyve been sniffing around both Jaylon and Burns... betting its the ER for 17 with 37 as their likely OT spot.

Looking more and more like the top spot will be for the QB
Burns at 17  
Hades07 : 3/23/2019 7:28 pm : link
Would make me very happy. Good player and a good fit.
Would love...  
Strip-Sack : 3/23/2019 7:30 pm : link
Burns at 17 but wonder if heíll be there.
RE: Burns at 17  
robbieballs2003 : 3/23/2019 7:30 pm : link
In comment 14354664 Hades07 said:
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Would make me very happy. Good player and a good fit.


Agreed ... if he makes it to 17.
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DonnieD89 : 3/23/2019 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14354659 Pan-handler said:
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In comment 14354622 nflscouting said:


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You know Tommy, I can live with my LB being not so great vs the pass, as usually my safeties cover up for them. Even my OLBs, if they are not great run stuffers, usually the MLB comes over to help. BUT, if my MLB guys get poing-ponged or like White, simply fly past tackles (10 misses vs the run last year - ouch), I have to look at them this way - WILB, that way I know my other interior guy can direct traffic & use the WILB as his wing man.
Hey, will have monster scouting reports up this week on an ESPN site. Also, little hint - Giants are also eyeballing the Burns kid for a possible move to LB. At #17, they are in that "what is left on the board" mode, but the more I see Burns on tape, the more I am convinced he would be much more valuable in the second level or more in a Leonard Floyd/Von Miller types of schemes



Theyve been sniffing around both Jaylon and Burns... betting its the ER for 17 with 37 as their likely OT spot.

Looking more and more like the top spot will be for the QB


That's the first thing I thought. I think Haskins is the target at #6 and #17 would be likely the tail end of the quality edge rushers wisen it dips in talent. Ferguson may be the only possible value at edge come #37, if not taken. I think the Giants want to draft into the strengths of the position and not miss out on edge, while getting their QB at #6.
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mrvax : 3/23/2019 8:24 pm : link
In comment 14354676 DonnieD89 said:
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That's the first thing I thought. I think Haskins is the target at #6 and #17 would be likely the tail end of the quality edge rushers wisen it dips in talent. Ferguson may be the only possible value at edge come #37, if not taken. I think the Giants want to draft into the strengths of the position and not miss out on edge, while getting their QB at #6.


You think the Giants would rather Haskins at #6 rather than Rosen at #17 or #37?
Mrvax  
robbieballs2003 : 3/23/2019 8:36 pm : link
Not sure. I think they are looking at all possibilities. I personally prefer Rosen with 37 and then the best combination of defense and OL. Obviously it comes down to the players available but it seems like the value will be there if we want an ER, DL, LB, or OT. This draft outside of QB seems to fit our needs. I would also love it if we can get Rosen with 37 and then trade 6 and 17 to Oakland for 4 and 27. That way we can get one of Bosa, Williams, or Allen.
You can't have it all  
idiotsavant : 3/23/2019 8:46 pm : link
If your good cover lbs are not super vs run, just ok, and even within the one gapping 3/4 variation, it just goes back to why you need those top tier DTs.

Because those DTs need to be able to attack into the backfield - and also get sideways vs the run - as well as holding up vs run blocks the old fashioned way, on a one gap though, when that's called for.

So you - can - field those types of pass defending capable ilbs which are probably a necessity these days.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tommy  
DonnieD89 : 3/23/2019 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14354706 mrvax said:
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That's the first thing I thought. I think Haskins is the target at #6 and #17 would be likely the tail end of the quality edge rushers wisen it dips in talent. Ferguson may be the only possible value at edge come #37, if not taken. I think the Giants want to draft into the strengths of the position and not miss out on edge, while getting their QB at #6.



You think the Giants would rather Haskins at #6 rather than Rosen at #17 or #37?


That's a legit question; however, I still am not sure if Rosen has the personality that some people say would not mesh with other players. I would prefer Rosen for the #37 and take an edge at #6 an OT at #17. I thinks he is more talented at QB than all the QBs in this draft.
Donít see a LB at 6 or 17  
WillVAB : 3/23/2019 10:24 pm : link
Not clean enough.
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