Tyler Wade sent down this morning.
Looks like new outfielder Mike Tauchman could make the initial roster.
Also looks like Stephen Tarpley makes the roster. Yesterday Tarpley won the Yankees James P. Dawson award as the best rookie in this years camp. Well deserved.
Didi
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I think because he provides OF flexibility.
And hope they all do their jobs well enough to get the Voit/Bird discussion out of the "it's a competition for first base" rut.
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I don't see a lot of value in Mike Tauchman
I think because he provides OF flexibility.
Wade can play IF/OF. I believe he started in CF yesterday.
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In comment 14354912 Beer Man said:
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I don't see a lot of value in Mike Tauchman
I think because he provides OF flexibility.
Wade can play IF/OF. I believe he started in CF yesterday.
I understand. I'm just trying to guess why they like him more than Wade. Maybe they just feel he plays it better as a super utility guy.
Now just what are they going to do with this Tauchman character when Hicks is ready?
Once again Wade will be the 26th man....
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I guess they see something in Tauchman that led them to want to acquire him and see what he can do. If they have the same type of hunch on that they had on Voit... I'm willing to see what he's got.
I do feel like Wade really earned a spot, though - so that kind of sucks for him.
Sounds like Montgomery is targeting August - so, it'll be good to potentially have that reinforcement coming to the rotation later in the year where we may need it.
Sevy seems to also be progressing well. No setbacks or issues thus far.
Thanks, good info.
I guess they see something in Tauchman that led them to want to acquire him and see what he can do. If they have the same type of hunch on that they had on Voit... I'm willing to see what he's got.
I do feel like Wade really earned a spot, though - so that kind of sucks for him.
Sounds like Montgomery is targeting August - so, it'll be good to potentially have that reinforcement coming to the rotation later in the year where we may need it.
Sevy seems to also be progressing well. No setbacks or issues thus far.
Maybe they want Wade to play every day for awhile? Otherwise it makes little sense.
As Bill (IIRC) said above, it could be a similar line of thinking that led them to interest in Voit.
I understand moving Diehl because I think the org is trying to level out their pitching/hitting pipeline a bit and cash out on a pitching asset for another bat.
We'll see soon enough!
LOOGYs values are shot next year once 3 matter minimum is instituted
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like a competent pitcher. Smooth delivery, good stuff and confident. Hope he gets a chance in the bigs with Colorado.
LOOGYs values are shot next year once 3 matter minimum is instituted
He is not a LOOGY. He pitched well to both righties and lefties.
As Bill (IIRC) said above, it could be a similar line of thinking that led them to interest in Voit.
I understand moving Diehl because I think the org is trying to level out their pitching/hitting pipeline a bit and cash out on a pitching asset for another bat.
We'll see soon enough!
Yes, high contact, low strikeout rate. Looks ideal. I did not see anything on his defensive capabilities. Hope he has an arm as good as Gardner. Can't use another weak arm out there like Ellsbury.
If you want the option to start an OF that does not include Stanton, or you want to be able to take Stanton out for defense, Tauchman has more value than Wade.
Offense is a bonus.
Just from skimming the Rockies boards, it looks like he is well-regarded defensively in the outfield.
Do the Yankees look to trade one vs sending one down to SWB?
If both play to close to potential, I think Voit is the higher BA guy - .290 vs .260 for Bird. I think it is equal on power - I believe both are 25 to 30 HR guys. I prefer Voit's hitting to all fields and that is why I think he hit for higher average. He may also drive in more runs being able to go oppo.
I also believe Bird is the better of the two in the field although he isn't the second coming of Mattingly or Martinez.
So if you are Cashman, May 1st rolls around, Bird is healthy. The numbers are close...what do you do?
Do the Yankees look to trade one vs sending one down to SWB?
If both play to close to potential, I think Voit is the higher BA guy - .290 vs .260 for Bird. I think it is equal on power - I believe both are 25 to 30 HR guys. I prefer Voit's hitting to all fields and that is why I think he hit for higher average. He may also drive in more runs being able to go oppo.
I also believe Bird is the better of the two in the field although he isn't the second coming of Mattingly or Martinez.
So if you are Cashman, May 1st rolls around, Bird is healthy. The numbers are close...what do you do?
You are likely going on what analytics tell you is the better future player. And with health Bird is that guy. Birds swing when right is a thing of beauty. His eye is also excellent. Two years ago during the playoffs , there were some people saying he is the best eye/swing combo in the line-up (I don't see that as aberration due to the tools he shows). He projects better than Voit does (and I like voit) but this team sorel
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do well early in the year. At some point in time the Yankees need to commit to one of them and give that player the full time job with LeMahieu as the backup.
Do the Yankees look to trade one vs sending one down to SWB?
If both play to close to potential, I think Voit is the higher BA guy - .290 vs .260 for Bird. I think it is equal on power - I believe both are 25 to 30 HR guys. I prefer Voit's hitting to all fields and that is why I think he hit for higher average. He may also drive in more runs being able to go oppo.
I also believe Bird is the better of the two in the field although he isn't the second coming of Mattingly or Martinez.
So if you are Cashman, May 1st rolls around, Bird is healthy. The numbers are close...what do you do?
You are likely going on what analytics tell you is the better future player. And with health Bird is that guy. Birds swing when right is a thing of beauty. His eye is also excellent. Two years ago during the playoffs , there were some people saying he is the best eye/swing combo in the line-up (I don't see that as aberration due to the tools he shows). He projects better than Voit does (and I like voit) but this team sorel
I'm not sure that Bird is better than Voit at the plate. Voit has always been a good hitter at every level he has been.While it is true that Bird's swing is sweet, he is a pull hitter(not a bad thing for a lefty at YS) while Voit can hit equally well and with power to all fields. Both have a small MLB sample size, TBH.
But you are correct, predicted analytics will probably tell the tale.
So then, what is done with the other - banishment to SWB or a trade?
Do the Yankees look to trade one vs sending one down to SWB?
If both play to close to potential, I think Voit is the higher BA guy - .290 vs .260 for Bird. I think it is equal on power - I believe both are 25 to 30 HR guys. I prefer Voit's hitting to all fields and that is why I think he hit for higher average. He may also drive in more runs being able to go oppo.
I also believe Bird is the better of the two in the field although he isn't the second coming of Mattingly or Martinez.
So if you are Cashman, May 1st rolls around, Bird is healthy. The numbers are close...what do you do?
Sending to minors accomplishes nothing and trade would not bring nearly fair value.
Only way to realize the value of both, and not effectively negate the value of the Voit trade, is to see them as two players for two spots, 1B and DH.
I know how I would proceed from there, but until Cashman shows a willingness, not much point.
Could kick the can until next year when roster expands but that still doesn't answer how to get them both in the lineup.
Brady Anderson part 2? Strange increase from 1 to 20, but maybe he learned the upward swing. There are more than a few guys that are late bloomers. Cash and the analytics guys seem to know what they are doing.
Wade sounded very distraught about the demotion.
Wade sounded very distraught about the demotion.
Yes, reading his quotes now - he didn't mince words. He felt he did everything the team asked this spring and he's pissed about going down.
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Wade sounded very distraught about the demotion.
Yes, reading his quotes now - he didn't mince words. He felt he did everything the team asked this spring and he's pissed about going down.
Tough to blame him... he did about as much as you could have expected this spring to earn a spot, and it turns out that someone they just traded for, who is already 28 and may just be Quad-A fodder, is going to get the last roster spot instead.
I understand it from an organizational standpoint. But I can't blame Wade for being miffed. He should be. I'd be a little worried if he wasn't.
Only way to realize the value of both, and not effectively negate the value of the Voit trade, is to see them as two players for two spots, 1B and DH.
So while I think it's all well and good to extend the competition into the regular season, at some point they will need to choose one over the other. Hopefully it will be a difficult decision because they're both hitting and fielding well. And let the loser of the competition bring back real quality in trade, not some three-month rental.
As for preferences, Bird gives us the lefty bat and the better glove, but the injury history makes his reliability a major question mark. So Voit comes with better durability and two more years of team control (despite being two years older).
Tough call. I hope it stays that way for all the right reasons.
The Diehl move made sense and we have someone that is able to fill in as a stop-gap while Frazier and Wade get regular ABs.
I still root for Bird if he's healthy, because of that wonderful swing, 20 pounds more muscle this year, and being a lefty. But if Voit plays like he did last season as a Yankee AND this spring, he's too good a hitter to send down, but a terrific trade pawn.
If they aren't both raking, this gets much easier. Pretty good odds of that.
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Only way to realize the value of both, and not effectively negate the value of the Voit trade, is to see them as two players for two spots, 1B and DH.
I don't see how there is room for Voit (or Bird) as an every day DH when there is already a logjam of players in line for DH reps, most notably Stanton, Andujar, and Sanchez, not to mention Judge. Voit would have to be a consistent .900+ OPS guy to deserve such an honor (which he may be capable of) and then Bird would have to be putting up similar numbers not to find himself spending half his time on the pine.
So while I think it's all well and good to extend the competition into the regular season, at some point they will need to choose one over the other. Hopefully it will be a difficult decision because they're both hitting and fielding well. And let the loser of the competition bring back real quality in trade, not some three-month rental.
As for preferences, Bird gives us the lefty bat and the better glove, but the injury history makes his reliability a major question mark. So Voit comes with better durability and two more years of team control (despite being two years older).
Tough call. I hope it stays that way for all the right reasons.
The GM has publicly said there isn't room at DH, so how can I say you're wrong?
Because he's also never said the word "trade"; because he knows he wouldn't get value; and because he loves both Bird and what he pulled off in the Voit trade.
Opening day is here and Bird will be on roster. When Hicks is back, Tauchman can go down. Wade can come up when Tulo busts, which I think likely.
Decision time when Didi's back.
If Stanton doesn't play left field at least 2-3 times per week even once Hicks returns, they're doing this wrong.
If Stanton is playing left field 2-3 times per week it means he is DH 2-3 times per week. And Sanchez is gonna need to be DH once a week. And Judge and Andujar (especially if he's struggling in the field) should be getting some occasional DH days as well.
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any chance they play Stanton in left quite a bit and keep both Bird and Voit in the lineup when Hicks comes back?
If Stanton doesn't play left field at least 2-3 times per week even once Hicks returns, they're doing this wrong.
Stanton is a better OF than given credit for. Judge is still better than Stanton (probably significantly better). Stanton is a better RF than LF and Judge could play CF if needed.
I still don't know why Judge isn't in LF and Stanton in RF. Maybe Judge's arm is vastly better than Stanton, but I doubt it (not vastly).
I know there is a reasonable explanation, but LF in Yankee Stadium is a difficult field, why not have your better OF playing there.
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any chance they play Stanton in left quite a bit and keep both Bird and Voit in the lineup when Hicks comes back?
If Stanton doesn't play left field at least 2-3 times per week even once Hicks returns, they're doing this wrong.
Stanton is a better OF than given credit for. Judge is still better than Stanton (probably significantly better). Stanton is a better RF than LF and Judge could play CF if needed.
I still don't know why Judge isn't in LF and Stanton in RF. Maybe Judge's arm is vastly better than Stanton, but I doubt it (not vastly).
I know there is a reasonable explanation, but LF in Yankee Stadium is a difficult field, why not have your better OF playing there.
Judge already has knee issues. Why would you ask him to play the larger field and wear down his knees more?
Stanton won't be an everyday player in the field, so it is fine to ask him to be the LF 3-5 times a week. I imagine that when facing a tough RHP, the Yanks move Stanton to DH, Bird to 1B and Tauchman to LF.
Unless Tauchman is a complete zero, I have a hard time seeing a scenario where Wade gets called up anytime soon, short of an injury to someone. I think that is why Wade was so upset when he got sent down- he can read the depth charts as well as anyone else- and he just saw his chances at ML time with the Yanks vanish.
Even when Hicks returns, Tauchman probably stays because he can play all 3 spots- and the Yanks will need to give people days off. Bird might be the odd man out there, especially since DJ can play all over.
The Yanks 3 oldest position players would be DJ LeMahieu (turns 31 in July), Aaron Hicks (turns 30 in October) and Stanton (who turns 30 in November).
That's a LONG way from the veteran age-fest that the Yanks ran out there as recently as 3 years ago...