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eric2425ny : 3/24/2019 1:24 pm
Iím not an avid follower of college football at this point, having a four year old kind of limits me to watching football on Sundays only at this point lol. Knowing we need a decent receiver, particularly a taller one, what are realistic options for us, especially if we wait until round 2-3 to address the position?
Hakeem Butler, NíKeal Harry  
BSIMatt : 3/24/2019 1:45 pm : link
And AJ Brown, they may be going before round 2, Iím not sure.
I  
AcidTest : 3/24/2019 1:46 pm : link
like Jalen Hurd, but he's for round four or five.
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arcarsenal : 3/24/2019 1:51 pm : link
Hakeem Butler and AJ Brown are definitely two guys I like right now. Parris Campbell as well. Would be especially sweet to pair him with Haskins.

A couple of guys I've seen play who I like and should be available in later rounds...

Riley Ridley (UGA)
Lil' Jordan Humphrey (TEX)
Emanuel Hall (MIZ)
Well if Haskins is the guy at 6,  
Simms11 : 3/24/2019 1:51 pm : link
then they could always look to add one of his receivers from OSU....McLaurin or one of the others.
Give me  
oreojenkins : 3/24/2019 1:53 pm : link
J.J. Arcega-Whiteside
Deebo Samuel  
Big Rick in FL : 3/24/2019 1:55 pm : link
Is one of my favorite players in this draft class.
RE: Hakeem Butler, NíKeal Harry  
Pan-handler : 3/24/2019 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14355103 BSIMatt said:
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And AJ Brown, they may be going before round 2, Iím not sure.


Watch Harry and youll see a guy with nice toughness and good catch ability but almost no separation ability against half decent CBs.

That puts his ceiling fairly low in the NFL.

Hakeem separates much better than he does and can put his foot in the ground sink his hips pretty incredibly for a 6'6 guy. Ive seen him juke much smaller DBs to the point of falling down on multiple occasions.

Parris is impressive and likely just touching the surface with his ability. Better pro than college player projection like OBJ (obviously not same level) but tremendous tools. Id take him at 37 in a second. But itd be hard to pass up OT.
Butler is really intriguing  
BSIMatt : 3/24/2019 2:02 pm : link
Over 35 inch arms, 11 in hands, 6-5, with over 36 in vertical and sub 4.5 in forty. Iím just not sure how he is slated to go.
I like Hakeem Bulter..  
prdave73 : 3/24/2019 2:03 pm : link
Time to give Eli what made him more successful in the past, and that's a huge target like Plaxico Burress! Especially now since his accuracy is diminishing. I like this kids height, speed at 4.48, his aggressiveness and ability to fight for the ball, his body control, and his ability to want to learn. I think he would make a great fit. The Giants have two slot WR's and he would bring that other dimension that is much needed for Eli.
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arcarsenal : 3/24/2019 2:07 pm : link
Harry seems a bit slow to me. If we're going for a bigger target, I really like Butler. I think he's the tallest WR in the class - or as tall as any WR in this class. I don't think any of these guys are taller than 6'5" - which Butler is.

I think Marquise Brown is going to be really good - but he's going to be off the board before we're looking WR I think.
Kelvin Harmon - NCSU  
Spider56 : 3/24/2019 2:09 pm : link
I watched this guy for 3 years and he is the real deal. His rating seems to have dropped since the combine because he doesnít have a great time in the 40 ... but he is a complete WR who knows how to use his body and he catches everything near him. Also an excellent down field blocker. He was Finleyís primary deep threat. Will probably go in the late 3rd but could drop to the 4th.
IMO the value of the player has to jump  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/24/2019 2:15 pm : link
off the board to take a WR before round 4, or at least pick 95.

Just too many glaring needs on D to fill and too many players likely available to fill them, plus I'd assume the team is gonna grab Haskins at 6, and then an OT at 17, 37, or 95.

There's no space for a high end WR in this draft, and I think this is part of the philosophical roster building approach shift by DG. The allocation of resources is going to change; it is already in the midst of change.
I really like Parris Campbell  
Jay on the Island : 3/24/2019 2:16 pm : link
He is a playmaker with the ball in his hands. Iíd be thrilled with Haskins at 6 and Campbell at 37 with an edge rusher or DL at 17.
If you want a 4th or 5th round sleeper . . . .  
TC : 3/24/2019 2:17 pm : link
Preston Williams out of Colorado. 6'4", 211.

2018 production: 96 catches for 1345 yds, 14.4 average.

Transferred from Tenn, where he did nothing, and exploded in the right offense. Not fast, but his talent is for real.

2018 Highlights - ( New Window )
Thanks everybody  
eric2425ny : 3/24/2019 2:17 pm : link
letís hope we take at least one or two of these guys. I read something about the OSU third WR getting a lot of hype after catching passes from Haskins at his pro day the other day. Johnnie Dixon I think is his name.
Introducing WR Darius Slayton  
Torrag : 3/24/2019 2:53 pm : link
I think he's a bit under the radar and also undervalued. True vertical threat that can clear out coverages. Good tracking and adjusting to balls in flight. Will work back to his QB to help him out when needed. Decent size speed/combo with solid hands and some wiggle to him out of his breaks. Reminds me of Willie Gault to those of you around long enough to appreciate that comp. IMO he's a potentil hidden gem. With our priority needs in the trenches and on defense to acquire a guy like this at the top of the 4th would be great value.
Darius Slayton - ( New Window )
My fave WRs in this years  
tyrik13 : 3/24/2019 2:54 pm : link
Draft: Hakeem Butler, his only problem is he has a case of the dropsies, but other very talented kid; Kíneal Harry is a beast possession receiver who will catch almost everything thrown his way, his main problem is no separation; Paris Campbell has the chance to be an OBJ clone, kid has it all, but his route tree was limited in college, if we do draft Haskins he would be the kid iíd draft at 37; JJ Arcega-Whiteside is similar to Kíneal Harry.
Intrigued By Notre Dame WR  
Rick in Dallas : 3/24/2019 2:57 pm : link
Miles Boykin on the third day.
I would target pick #95  
ChicagoMarty : 3/24/2019 2:59 pm : link
for a wideout that would complement our current crew.

I am assuming no qb pick here which may be a rebuttable presumption

But picking up a quality ER or LB, OT and CB with our first three picks should leave a quality wr available to us.

I don't think Hakeem Butler would fall all the way to #95 but someone like Emanuel Hall could drop. Also someone like Lil Jordan Humphrey or David Sills would work.

I want someone with top level speed to stretch the zones and push the safeties back and open things up for our other weapons.

My concern is that our O without Beckham will look like the Cows O before they traded for the speedster Amari Cooper
Hakeem Butler  
WillVAB : 3/24/2019 2:59 pm : link
Is my favorite but not sure where he will go at this point.

Miles Boykin is a guy I could see DG snagging in the 3-4 rounds.
Look at the bigger guys  
Joey in VA : 3/24/2019 3:00 pm : link
If you want to see who DG will target. Keep in mind that the guy who took over for Ross excels at finding WR talent, he was the one who unearthed Victor Cruz. I'd almost guarantee that with the # of picks we have, we add at least one WR over 6-2 in the draft.
Please no Wide receiver in rd 2  
giantstock : 3/24/2019 3:01 pm : link
Between the QB and the front 7 on defense and at least the Rt -- and imo they need a center -- please do not take a WR before rd 3.
As a UC Davis alum I'm biased  
santacruzom : 3/24/2019 3:19 pm : link
But I'd love to see us take Keelan Doss on day 3.
RE: Hakeem Butler  
Pan-handler : 3/24/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14355176 WillVAB said:
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Is my favorite but not sure where he will go at this point.

Miles Boykin is a guy I could see DG snagging in the 3-4 rounds.


We want a downfield guy to complement what we have in Tate AND Shep.Not the great underneath guys; that takes out Deebo, AJ Brown, Ridley and a few others

But Hakeem and Parris Campbell wow. Both would be excellent picks if we somehow went WR at 37.
A.J. Brown would be a good fit  
jeff57 : 3/24/2019 3:35 pm : link
But not till 37.
RE: RE: Hakeem Butler  
WillVAB : 3/24/2019 3:42 pm : link
In comment 14355200 Pan-handler said:
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In comment 14355176 WillVAB said:


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Is my favorite but not sure where he will go at this point.

Miles Boykin is a guy I could see DG snagging in the 3-4 rounds.



We want a downfield guy to complement what we have in Tate AND Shep.Not the great underneath guys; that takes out Deebo, AJ Brown, Ridley and a few others

But Hakeem and Parris Campbell wow. Both would be excellent picks if we somehow went WR at 37.


Like Joey said I think DG is going to target a WR with size. Itís been a while since the Giants have had a quality Big WR.
This is a very deep WR class...  
bw in dc : 3/24/2019 3:43 pm : link
I would put Campbell right at the top. He was superb at the Combine. Just wait until NFL teams get him in more space. He's going to run away from a lot of DBs with that world class speed. Big fan, too, of his teammate Terry McLaurin. Also fast, but extremely physical. I could see him at in the slot or outside.

I am also very intrigued with Emanuel Hall. His YPC have been unreal the last two years, like 22+. Hasn't caught a ton of balls, but when he did he was a pain in the ass to deal with.

Andy Isabella is going to be fun to watch. A speed demon, slot guy with great hands. Needs to get more physical, but picture Welker or Edelman with better speed.

I saw one Toledo game this year against FIU in the Bahamas Bowl. Friend of mine told me to check out their sophomore QB Eli Peters. Well, while I watching the game, I was impressed with their slot guy Dionte Johnson. Smallish, but good hands and deceptive speed and movement.

With OJB gone this offense could really use  
Chris L. : 3/24/2019 4:04 pm : link
a speed stretch WR. We need someone to make defenses pay when they inevitably stack the box to stop Barkley. Paris Campbell would be ideal. The guy is a big play waiting to happen. He would also make the lives of Shepherd and Tate much easier as they would have more room to operate. Number 37 might be a tad high for Campbell but I might do it anyway because he is such a great fit for our offense.
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Peppers : 3/24/2019 4:05 pm : link
I've heard Butler has a lot of fans among NFL people..

And AJ Brown did really well during interviews.
My WR rankings:  
Anakim : 3/24/2019 4:06 pm : link
16.
N'Keal Harry
WR

Arizona State
19.
Hakeem Butler
WR

Iowa State
26.
A.J. Brown
WR

Mississippi
27.
D.K. Metcalf
WR

Mississippi
29.
Marquise Brown
WR

Oklahoma
34.
Miles Boykin
WR

Notre Dame
42.
Antoine Wesley
WR

TTU
44.
Parris Campbell
WR

Ohio State
46.
Deebo Samuel
WR

South Carolina
50.
JJ Arcega-Whiteside
WR

Stanford
53.
Kelvin Harmon
WR

NC State
58.
Riley Ridley
WR

Georgia
69.
Emanuel Hall
WR

Missouri
70.
Anthony Johnson
WR

Buffalo
73.
DaMarkus Lodge
WR

Mississippi
75.
Andy Isabella
WR

UMass
90.
Terry McLaurin
WR

Ohio State
94.
David Sills V
WR

West Virginia
96.
Shawn Poindexter
WR

Arizona
97.
Jalen Hurd
WR

Baylor
99.
Gary Jennings Jr.
WR

West Virginia
101.
Darius Slayton
WR

Auburn
111.
Mecole Hardman
WR

Georgia
112.
Hunter Renfrow
WR

Clemson
113.
Preston Williams
WR

Colorado State
114.
Dillon Mitchell
WR

Oregon
Demarkus Lodge  
mavric : 3/24/2019 4:27 pm : link
is my sleeper pick. Since he played opposite side of DK Metcalf, he kind of gets lost out of the spotlight.

6-1, with extreme speed and good hands. He went up against Greedy Williams three times this past season taking the ball to the house and leaving Williams in the dust. Can run a 4.3, but most impressive is his "instant speed" from a standstill. No other receiver comes close to his instant speed and if free, he's gone like the wind.

I also love Butler as the best WR in the draft and love Miles Boykin who's numbers are off the charts.

We should be able to come up with a receiver to stretch the field and replace OBJ
Also a fan of Harmon from NC State  
ghost718 : 3/24/2019 4:27 pm : link
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Anak do us all a favor and find a format...  
Torrag : 3/24/2019 4:30 pm : link
...that doesn't run 18 inches down the screen. Thanks.
RE: This is a very deep WR class...  
arcarsenal : 3/24/2019 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14355216 bw in dc said:
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I would put Campbell right at the top. He was superb at the Combine. Just wait until NFL teams get him in more space. He's going to run away from a lot of DBs with that world class speed. Big fan, too, of his teammate Terry McLaurin. Also fast, but extremely physical. I could see him at in the slot or outside.

I am also very intrigued with Emanuel Hall. His YPC have been unreal the last two years, like 22+. Hasn't caught a ton of balls, but when he did he was a pain in the ass to deal with.

Andy Isabella is going to be fun to watch. A speed demon, slot guy with great hands. Needs to get more physical, but picture Welker or Edelman with better speed.

I saw one Toledo game this year against FIU in the Bahamas Bowl. Friend of mine told me to check out their sophomore QB Eli Peters. Well, while I watching the game, I was impressed with their slot guy Dionte Johnson. Smallish, but good hands and deceptive speed and movement.


Hall popped out several times when I was looking at Lock. Definitely a big play - stretch the field guy. Not small, either. He has pretty decent size to go with his speed. Has a penchant for getting behind DB's.

I can see a bigger DeSean Jackson. Mike Wallace is a solid comp for him too.

He's probably one of those guys who will have really big games some weeks when you connect on him with a big play or two - but will also have weeks where he just doesn't really show up at all.

Needs work and isn't that polished - but there's talent there and if we want another guy who can help blow the top off, he can help.

Still thinking a more physical guy who will help more in the RZ would be a better look for us - which is why I really like Butler. This is a guy who can overpower some smaller DB's and just outmatch them on 50/50 balls.

Giving a young QB a target like that can be hugely beneficial.
Hakeem Butler at 17......  
No Where Man : 3/24/2019 4:35 pm : link
'nuf said.
I'd love to have Butler  
GeorgeAdams33 : 3/24/2019 4:46 pm : link
I would not mind using #37 for him or even trading up from there for him. I don't believe he's worth the #17 pick, but if we traded down from there for some reason I'd see him as a good value.

I'd also like another receiver or two out of this strain group. I'd love to get a guy like Paris Campbell, Deebo Samuel, Andy Isabella, or even Gary Jennings. These guys can be tough to defend on the underneath crossing routes which is why we went with Tate even though we have Shepard.
Please not Emmanuel Hall.  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/24/2019 4:48 pm : link
No shows the SR bowl, and not only doesn't tell the coaches or organizers about his change of heart to not show up, doesn't even tell his team mate and QB for the past 4 years at Mizzou, Drew Lock.

This came up during Lock's interview. The guy missed tons of games with varying injuries. Great YPC, but how many balls did he catch? Poor knowledge of routes supposedly, inconsistent hands, great combine and a real foo's gold candidate if you ask me.
RE: Anak do us all a favor and find a format...  
Anakim : 3/24/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14355249 Torrag said:
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...that doesn't run 18 inches down the screen. Thanks.


Just copied and pasted from TDN. *Shrugs*
We still haven frankenstein  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/24/2019 5:01 pm : link
Eli-wco, so not sure if we need to target a traditional X receiver for a pocket passer or smaller quicker wco receivers.
RE: Hakeem Butler  
adamg : 3/24/2019 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14355176 WillVAB said:
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Is my favorite but not sure where he will go at this point.

Miles Boykin is a guy I could see DG snagging in the 3-4 rounds.


Same. Reminds me of Brandon Marshall.
If Butler makes it to day 2  
adamg : 3/24/2019 5:14 pm : link
He'd be worth a Collins like trade up
I like Kelvin Harmon too.  
mittenedman : 3/24/2019 5:22 pm : link
Reminds me of Hakeem Nicks.
David Sills  
Biteymax22 : 3/24/2019 5:38 pm : link
Reminds me of a young Theilen, who Shurmur helped develop in MN. Smooth in and out of his breaks, tracks the ball well deep. Not the best athlete, but something there to work with.
RE: We still haven frankenstein  
arcarsenal : 3/24/2019 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14355281 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Eli-wco, so not sure if we need to target a traditional X receiver for a pocket passer or smaller quicker wco receivers.


Eli really shouldn't play into the equation at all. He's likely going to play with a WR we draft for - at most - one season.

But Eli was at his best when he had a legit SE with size on the outside (Burress) - he also did really well with Nicks there. The back shoulder timing routes we ran with those two were un-guardable when they were on.

We've had a tough time getting a player in that spot who has the type of skillset it feels like we've been lacking.

We've been strong in the slot... from Steve Smith to Cruz to Shep. Now Tate is here. Obviously we had Beckham - who was/is a top flight "Z" - but we may need to push Shep out there now with Tate here since Tate will be the primary "Y" in any 3 WR set.

We had the right idea with Brandon Marshall - he's the "X" we've been lacking - we were just about 2 years late on that.

But... I don't think it matters who the QB is as much as what type of offense we want to be. Even in a WCO, you can still benefit from having a bigger target outside.

For us, Shurmur likes to run PA Floods and use the Sail concept. You can even do this with Shepard/Tate/Barkley/Engram - you'll have Tate slot right, Shepard outside right, Engram next to Solder on the left and Barkley as the single back.

You can have Engram run a shallow cross across the field to the right, have the slot (Tate) go 10 and out, and then have Shepard on the outside run a vertical route/deep post that breaks in towards the middle of the field. Barkley can chip/stay in to block/leak out in the flat. You can also do this with a better blocking TE like Ellison and have Barkley run a swing.

It's more important that the players fit your concepts and that you have the ability to maximize their abilities.
While Boykin is big, fast and had a great 3 cone, I was even more  
Ira : 3/24/2019 5:51 pm : link
impressed by watching him play. He's got good hands and plays strong winning most battles when the ball is up for grabs. He reminds me of a bigger, taller Hakeem Nicks. I know that the prognosticators have him going later, but I'll be surprised if he makes it out of the 2nd round.
I didnít realize the numbers Boykin put up  
BSIMatt : 3/24/2019 6:18 pm : link
At the combine, unreal. 6.77 3 come and almost 44 inch vertical. Thatís crazy for a guy that size.
Mid to late  
Sullivan10x : 3/24/2019 6:25 pm : link
I like Stanley Morgan Jr or Preston Williams
RE: I like Hakeem Bulter..  
Pan-handler : 3/24/2019 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14355122 prdave73 said:
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Time to give Eli what made him more successful in the past, and that's a huge target like Plaxico Burress! Especially now since his accuracy is diminishing. I like this kids height, speed at 4.48, his aggressiveness and ability to fight for the ball, his body control, and his ability to want to learn. I think he would make a great fit. The Giants have two slot WR's and he would bring that other dimension that is much needed for Eli.


Could be wrong, but this point I am not sure he makes it to 37 but defintiely not too much after that.

Him or Parris Campbell would be amazing. However between OT ,QB, ER and even CB, WR is 5th on that list. However if he's obvious BPA.....
RE: Mid to late  
Anakim : 3/24/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14355363 Sullivan10x said:
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I like Stanley Morgan Jr or Preston Williams


Preston Williams is this year's Antonio Callaway
None in rounds 2 & 3.  
Klaatu : 3/25/2019 7:43 am : link
Regardless of whether or not the Giants draft a QB early on, their focus should be on upgrading their offensive line first, and then bolstering their defense. I would hope they'd made an exception for a top-tier TE who can block like a mofo as well as catch passes, but a WR? Hell no. Not until day 3 at the earliest (and even then I wouldn't be so quick to draft one).
I like WRs for Eli that will make tough contested catches for him  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/25/2019 8:39 am : link
David Sills is my guy rd 3 or later. Just watch h8m catch the ball, always with his hands and itís just natural. Fan of Harmon as a 2nd choice. Ok with a burner late.
RE: I like WRs for Eli that will make tough contested catches for him  
Pan-handler : 3/25/2019 9:08 am : link
In comment 14355763 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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David Sills is my guy rd 3 or later. Just watch h8m catch the ball, always with his hands and itís just natural. Fan of Harmon as a 2nd choice. Ok with a burner late.


We have 2 of those guys already in Tate and Shep.

We need the stretch the field guy /downfield threat .
RE: I like Kelvin Harmon too.  
bw in dc : 3/25/2019 9:23 am : link
In comment 14355295 mittenedman said:
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Reminds me of Hakeem Nicks.


Nicks was more of a game-breaker. But Harmon just doesn't have the speed or burst. But he is a guy that can move the sticks and play very physically going for the ball. Very good attributes.
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