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NFT: Round of 32 - Day 2

dep026 : 3/24/2019 1:58 pm
Tennessee in the midst of an epic meltdown. Up 21 at half as much as 25 in the first half.

Iowa down 3 with 7 to go.
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How lucky is Duke here  
dpinzow : 3/24/2019 7:34 pm : link
The tip attempt by Dawkins touched almost every part of the rim, was 3/4 of the way down, and rolled out
You just can’t make it up...  
bw in dc : 3/24/2019 7:35 pm : link
...
UCF was impressive  
ChaChing : 3/24/2019 7:35 pm : link
Maybe that was known, but my first time seeing them. Great game
RE: Duke advances to the sweet 16!!!!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/24/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14355453 Canton said:
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Yeahhhhh babayyyy!! Coach K's 27th appearance. LEGEND🔥

Best game of the tournament. Just amazing!


Great. Another game of that rat bitching about every call. Fuck Duke.
That deserved to fall for Dawkins  
slickwilly : 3/24/2019 7:35 pm : link
Played an amazing game. Feel bad for the kid.
Switch the jerseys  
Greg from LI : 3/24/2019 7:35 pm : link
And Jones gets called for a foul on that last drive 10 of 10 times.


Same thing with Zion bulldozing the guy in the lane on their last possession. Typical Dook bullshit
What a horseshoe up their ass  
MetsAreBack : 3/24/2019 7:36 pm : link
Dawkins is going to think about Miss for the rest of his life. Brutal.
RE: How lucky is Duke here  
ChaChing : 3/24/2019 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14355457 dpinzow said:
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The tip attempt by Dawkins touched almost every part of the rim, was 3/4 of the way down, and rolled out

Not just that but the missed dunk to go up 6, then Fall going out 1 play b4 a missed Zion FT, that bounces around a bit and gets to Barrett, who has just that much more space to put it back w/ Fall out...
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arcarsenal : 3/24/2019 7:37 pm : link
I really thought the putback was rolling in.... wow.

What a finish.

I fucking hate Duke, but the tourney is more intriguing with these kids in the mix so for now it is what it is.

Heartbreaking for UCF... they were right there.
That was an offensive foul...  
bw in dc : 3/24/2019 7:37 pm : link
on Zion.

But the officials unfortunately swallowed their whistle.
RE: RE: How lucky is Duke here  
dpinzow : 3/24/2019 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14355466 ChaChing said:
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In comment 14355457 dpinzow said:


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The tip attempt by Dawkins touched almost every part of the rim, was 3/4 of the way down, and rolled out


Not just that but the missed dunk to go up 6, then Fall going out 1 play b4 a missed Zion FT, that bounces around a bit and gets to Barrett, who has just that much more space to put it back w/ Fall out...


That being said, UCF also caught a break on the play where the ball did not appear to hit the rim with 2 minutes left
Duke and the calls!!!!!!  
Chris L. : 3/24/2019 7:39 pm : link
Barrett clearly shoved Dawkins out of the way for the offensive follow up. Zion forearm shivers the guard out of the way on his way to the basket. Do they ever get a big call that doesn't go their way??????
Dpin to my eye I thought it hit the rim too  
ChaChing : 3/24/2019 7:39 pm : link
but it was way too close to overturn. That was the right call IMO given the replays
Of course Zion got away with an offensive charge there.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/24/2019 7:39 pm : link
Because it's Duke. And he's the next LeBron or something even though I become more and more convinced he's going to a dud in the NBA vis a vis the hype.
RE: Dpin to my eye I thought it hit the rim too  
dpinzow : 3/24/2019 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14355472 ChaChing said:
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but it was way too close to overturn. That was the right call IMO given the replays


The ball did not change direction or rotation until it hit the backboard so it is highly likely the ball did not hit the rim, but it was close so the officials did not overturn their original call
RE: Duke and the calls!!!!!!  
bw in dc : 3/24/2019 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14355471 Chris L. said:
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Barrett clearly shoved Dawkins out of the way for the offensive follow up. Zion forearm shivers the guard out of the way on his way to the basket. Do they ever get a big call that doesn't go their way??????


Rarely.

Look, with sustained excellence, comes preferential treatment. But it is tough to watch over and over and over again...
RE: Of course Zion got away with an offensive charge there.  
dpinzow : 3/24/2019 7:44 pm : link
In comment 14355473 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Because it's Duke. And he's the next LeBron or something even though I become more and more convinced he's going to a dud in the NBA vis a vis the hype.


Zion will be a franchise player in the NBA barring injuries. The only weaknesses in his game are outside shooting and foul shooting and those can be improved over time. I think Ja might be the better pro though because the NBA is a guard's league now
Its one thing to get all the close calls  
Chris L. : 3/24/2019 7:47 pm : link
its something entirely different to be down by one and push the guy in front of you on the low block completely out of the way to get the then easy rebound and easy put in....disgraceful!
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arcarsenal : 3/24/2019 7:50 pm : link
A good friend of mine who is way more invested in the NBA/NCAA than I am at this point also thinks Zion is going to.... I don't want to say "flop"... but, not be a franchise player and not be as good as he's being projected because he thinks the NBA game has changed in a way where Zion's skillset is going to be less effective.

But, I think he's shown just enough of a stroke where I can see him developing a decent enough shot to keep teams honest. The athleticism and raw ability is just too good for me to be convinced that he won't hit at the next level.

Barrett feels slightly safer - but if you have the 1st pick - and if it's the Knicks, we have to take Zion.

That said, I just need us in the top 3. Any of Williamson, Barrett, Morant and I'm thrilled.

Getting the 4th pick would be so fucking Knicks.
Duke is a very flawed team  
Stan in LA : 3/24/2019 7:52 pm : link
And will go down this week.

Much ado about nothing.
RE: Duke is a very flawed team  
MetsAreBack : 3/24/2019 8:06 pm : link
In comment 14355485 Stan in LA said:
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And will go down this week.

Much ado about nothing.


Certainly not to Liberty. Maybe MSU... don't know enough about LSU but it's a survive and advance tournament. If you awarded style points opening weekend Texas Tech might look the best so far ... but it doesn't mean shit moving forward.
CN we stop the duke gets all the calls...  
dep026 : 3/24/2019 8:08 pm : link
UCF went to the line more. They called more fouls on duke than UCF. Zion was called for an offensive foul a minute before his and 1. Barrett probably have a push, but nothing huge and the guy never boxed him out anyways.

Duke was very lucky to win. But the refs had nothing to do with it. It was a great great game. And UCF was kilometers away from winning.
Uh, the UCF player did box out...  
bw in dc : 3/24/2019 8:11 pm : link
Unfortunately, RJB pushed him deeper under the basket.

You can’t push not getting boxed out...
RE: CN we stop the duke gets all the calls...  
Del Shofner : 3/24/2019 8:12 pm : link
In comment 14355496 dep026 said:
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It was a great great game. And UCF was kilometers away from winning.


Looked more like millimeters than kilometers to me.
Dawkins  
MookGiants : 3/24/2019 8:13 pm : link
blew that game by keeping Tacko on the floor late. He was totally out of gas. He couldn't move and he is an average rebounder to begin with. Add in his free throw problems and he needs to be out of the game. Challenging Zion up 3 with 15 seconds to go is mind numbing.

That decision and the decision to throw an alley oop when a simple bounce pass works just fine is what cost them the game.
RE: Uh, the UCF player did box out...  
dep026 : 3/24/2019 8:16 pm : link
In comment 14355498 bw in dc said:
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Unfortunately, RJB pushed him deeper under the basket.

You can’t push not getting boxed out...


That push happens on every box out. It was a weak weak box out.
I want Zion on the Knicks so badly  
Anakim : 3/24/2019 8:17 pm : link
Ja Morant is great, RJ Barrett could be great and Culver has potential, but Zion is in a league of his own. He's the best player in the Draft AINEC.



I'll be so fucking bummed if the Knicks lose out on him.
Lol  
Eli owns all : 3/24/2019 8:54 pm : link
Duke hatred is unreal. What about clear as day block in first half on a 3 that would of been break away layup 5 point swing. Ball doesn’t change direction so should of been shot clock violation. But duke gets all the calls. Also first half Zion hacked on shot by tacko no call.
RE: I want Zion on the Knicks so badly  
arcarsenal : 3/24/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14355505 Anakim said:
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Ja Morant is great, RJ Barrett could be great and Culver has potential, but Zion is in a league of his own. He's the best player in the Draft AINEC.



I'll be so fucking bummed if the Knicks lose out on him.


If I have my choice, I want Zion too - if the Knicks have pick 1 - there's no hesitation for me.

But, I can still be fine with Barrett or Morant.

It's the Knicks somehow winding up with the 4th pick that will just make me feel like we're fucked for the rest of eternity.

How much more cruel can it be than that?
RE: RE: Uh, the UCF player did box out...  
bw in dc : 3/24/2019 9:00 pm : link
In comment 14355504 dep026 said:
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In comment 14355498 bw in dc said:


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Unfortunately, RJB pushed him deeper under the basket.

You can’t push not getting boxed out...



That push happens on every box out. It was a weak weak box out.


Two weeks from now when your Wolverines get screwed on a similar play against Duke, I look forward to your response.
RE: Lol  
AnthonyM : 3/24/2019 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14355548 Eli owns all said:
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Duke hatred is unreal. What about clear as day block in first half on a 3 that would of been break away layup 5 point swing. Ball doesn’t change direction so should of been shot clock violation. But duke gets all the calls. Also first half Zion hacked on shot by tacko no call.


Agreed. There was an offensive foul call earlier in the game the was a BS call. Like all games, there were missed calls on both sides.
Oh look, all the random Dookie scum comes slithering out from  
Greg from LI : 3/24/2019 9:07 pm : link
under whatever rocks they were under
Yah  
Eli owns all : 3/24/2019 9:15 pm : link
I’m a duke fan so what. Duke did not get every call tonight. Enjoy that it was at least a good game and not a blow out like most of these tourney games. Duke needs to figure things out and figure it out quickly.
RE: I want Zion on the Knicks so badly  
Pan-handler : 3/24/2019 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14355505 Anakim said:
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Ja Morant is great, RJ Barrett could be great and Culver has potential, but Zion is in a league of his own. He's the best player in the Draft AINEC.



I'll be so fucking bummed if the Knicks lose out on him.


Dont be its essentially a 1 in 7 shot we get pick #1
20 minutes away from 15 top-20 teams in the sweet 16  
MetsAreBack : 3/24/2019 9:52 pm : link
One could easily argue Auburn had a better resume than Kansas too - they finished the regular season polls ranked higher.

UVA will likely be the only team later this week not playing a top 20 team. Going to be an epic Sweet 16.
Not our prettiest performance, but a W is a W  
Greg from LI : 3/24/2019 10:03 pm : link
Love seeing Diakite breaking out in the tournament.
RE: Not our prettiest performance, but a W is a W  
arcarsenal : 3/24/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14355605 Greg from LI said:
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Love seeing Diakite breaking out in the tournament.


I bet you're going to love that Duke/VT matchup...

Rooting for the stadium to explode?

I'm guessing you'll have to begrudgingly root for Duke. The day you pull for VT will probably be the day I question my own sanity.
I choose to view it as a win either way  
Greg from LI : 3/24/2019 10:09 pm : link
Tech wins? Sweet, the biggest obstacle in out title dream is gone!

Duke wins? Hokies go home, the best team in their history craps out in the S16, Buzz is bolting to Texas A&M, and the program will soon return to the gutter.
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arcarsenal : 3/24/2019 10:19 pm : link
Hah, that's not a bad way to look at it.

Should be able to waltz into the Elite 8 at least.

I was actually surprised at the beatdown Purdue laid on Nova - I think they'll take out Tennessee.

UVA/Purdue would be a good matchup.
That said, I think Duke murders them  
Greg from LI : 3/24/2019 10:21 pm : link
Tech doesn't have anyone who can even attempt to guard Zion.
RE: I choose to view it as a win either way  
Anakim : 3/24/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14355610 Greg from LI said:
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Tech wins? Sweet, the biggest obstacle in out title dream is gone!

Duke wins? Hokies go home, the best team in their history craps out in the S16, Buzz is bolting to Texas A&M, and the program will soon return to the gutter.


Who are you rooting for?
Oregon is not your typical 12 seed  
slickwilly : 3/24/2019 10:32 pm : link
If they win UVA is obviously still the favorite, but its a legit sweet 16 matchup.
Seems to be Duke won..  
BillKo : 3/24/2019 10:37 pm : link
...because of poor coaching/awareness in the closing minute.

When Zion drives the lane, and you're up by three, you DON'T foul. Let him have the basket. You guard the perimeter and let them have the layup.

Then take your chances making foul shots and playing defense.

They gave that game away.

Rooting implies I want one of them to win  
Greg from LI : 3/24/2019 10:40 pm : link
I don't.
RE: Oregon is not your typical 12 seed  
Greg from LI : 3/24/2019 10:40 pm : link
In comment 14355629 slickwilly said:
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If they win UVA is obviously still the favorite, but its a legit sweet 16 matchup.


Why? Because they won the tournament in the suckass Pac 12?
To put it another way  
Greg from LI : 3/24/2019 10:44 pm : link
The other 1 seeds are playing FSU, Auburn, and a full-strength VPISU. I'd sure as hell rather play Oregon than any of those teams.
RE: Rooting implies I want one of them to win  
Anakim : 3/24/2019 10:46 pm : link
In comment 14355634 Greg from LI said:
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I don't.


Sophie's Choice
RE: That said, I think Duke murders them  
bw in dc : 3/24/2019 10:52 pm : link
In comment 14355616 Greg from LI said:
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Tech doesn't have anyone who can even attempt to guard Zion.


Buzz needs to pack it in, let Duke shoot uncontested threes, rebound, and hope their top ten three shooting (nationally) continues.

Any guys this weekend  
Pan-handler : 3/25/2019 9:06 am : link
Who showed they could also be an excellent top 5 pick aside from Zion, Barrett, Ja and Culver?
Greg, while I'd rather play Oregon I suppose than Tech  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/25/2019 9:19 am : link
Oregon has been on a tear lately. Competition aside, when you look at adjusted efficiency metrics (like Bart Torivk's site), over the past month, Oregon ranks 4th in the country going 10-0 with the best defense in the country. It took time for them to adjust without Bol Bol, but they are clicking and they have some "big moment" players in Wooten and Pritchard
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