How will Odell do in Cleveland?

he could be spectacular...

In comment 14355336 adamg said:

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he could be spectacular...

stats?

In comment 14355338 O Butter Giants 2019 said:

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In comment 14355336 adamg said: Quote: he could be spectacular... stats?

I could see 100+ ypg and a td per game

hot start, like 7 touchdowns and things are on fire..

then injured for a chunk of games in week 6

My guess is that he'll have an outstanding year with Cleveland, but in the 2nd or 3rd year, the new marriage will start to unravel.

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In comment 14355338 O Butter Giants 2019 said: Quote: In comment 14355336 adamg said: Quote: he could be spectacular... stats? I could see 100+ ypg and a td per game

If the 2016 Beckham walks in.

So I don’t think he will necessarily put up better numbers, probably numbers on par with his first couple years, provided he stays on the field.

that he does not want to be in Cleveland.

Where is it written he said that?

The spotlight doesn't shine as bright in Cleveland so OBJ won't shine as bright in Cleveland.

It depends how many games he plays - Beckham is no longer a guy you can count on for 16 a year. He's missed an entire seasons' worth of games in the past 2 years.

That said, if he's healthy and he plays most/all of the season...

I'd say something like...

85-90 receptions, ~1200 yards, 9 TD's

Landry has always been a target hog, so I don't think Beckham sees 150+ there despite being the superior player.

in the first year - either through injury or immaturity. i wouldn't count on this working out.

I'll be routing for him, especially to mature. but there's no guarantee.

In comment 14355401 O Butter Giants 2019 said:

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Where is it written he said that?

He was not happy that he did not have a say in where he would get traded to. Look it up yourself.

What else can you draw from that other than the fact that he wanted to be somewhere else?

Do dumb look at me shit, get hurt and play in half of his team's games. Just like he did here.

nothing, just the weird cryptic stuff he put on his Instagram.

He said he was looking forward to moving on. Usually when someone says they're unhappy or post something someone else said, they have um, like a source?

In comment 14355408 arcarsenal said:

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It depends how many games he plays - Beckham is no longer a guy you can count on for 16 a year. He's missed an entire seasons' worth of games in the past 2 years. That said, if he's healthy and he plays most/all of the season... I'd say something like... 85-90 receptions, ~1200 yards, 9 TD's Landry has always been a target hog, so I don't think Beckham sees 150+ there despite being the superior player.

Finally! Thank you for giving me what I had originally had asked for. Good post.

Cleveland is going to be an interesting follow this year... they have a lot of talent, but I think they have the wrong coach.

Kitchens has zero HC experience (unless you count his associate title in Cleveland from last year) - not even in college. And he's even limited as a coordinator. The vast majority of his coaching career has been as a position coach.

I think for a team to succeed with all of these personalities, you need a coach with a track record and actual experience. Otherwise, the first sign of turbulence is probably going to be harder to work through than it should be.

Even the team doesn't have many vets or guys to lean on... Joe Thomas would have been great for that, but now he's gone.

All of their skill guys are young... Mayfield, Chubb, Njoku, Hunt (when he's off SUSP), Beckham, Landry, Callaway.. Beckham and Landry are literally the "vets" in that group.

Even defensively they're very young and inexperienced with guys like Garrett, Ward, Ogunjobi...

They let Jaime Collins go.

It reminds me a lot of the failed Juan Castillo experiment in PHI. They had a lot of personalities there that year... Reid was still the coach, but Casillo had basically no experience coaching defense in like 20 years. They weren't "awful" but, relative to expectations, that 2011 Eagles team was a disappointment. They finished strong so it covered up that they were 4-8 through 12 games and nowhere near the team people had them slated to be after 2010 and the offseason they had.

the other weapons that offense has Beckham should have a spectacular year.

year. Browns fans will feel snake bitten.

Last year, the obviously lost Zeitler, and are replacing him with a 2nd round draft pick that was chosen by the new regime. Will be interesting to see how loss of Zeitler impacts the oline in Cleveland.

In comment 14355404 JohnB said:

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The spotlight doesn't shine as bright in Cleveland so OBJ won't shine as bright in Cleveland.

This isn’t 1974. City doesn’t matter. Stars are everywhere and it’ll continue. He’s a great player many here sound like Odell is there ex gf

Uses him. I think we'll see a lot of 20+ yarders go his way. PA with Chubb, and eventually Hunt, could be deadly

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In comment 14355401 O Butter Giants 2019 said: Quote: Where is it written he said that? He was not happy that he did not have a say in where he would get traded to. Look it up yourself. What else can you draw from that other than the fact that he wanted to be somewhere else?

Outside of LA he likely would have made that statement regardless. I don’t think he doesn’t want to be in cleveland, I think he’s pissed he didn’t get to control his fate. To date he’s been in control, until he wasn’t.

He gets to play with his best friend and what should be a dynamic offense. He will probably enjoy it.

because the secondaries of Pitt, Cincy and even Baltimore aren’t great. And I think that Browns OL may be the best blocking unit, too.

But as arc mentioned OBJ is getting less and less dependable as a player.

Not only health wise, but his focus.

Beckham has at worst an excellent year. he's too talented. 80 receptions and 1200 yards. At worst. Of course there is a chance he has a phenomenal year if he comes all the way back from leg woes.

Redzone Channel is going to be the OBJ show

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He'll be in the top 10 of WRs, but also sit out a few games with injury, get frustrated and have some media spats.

will want to prove the Giants wrong, and try to have a big year.....whether he can physically do it, remains to be seen....

I think OBj is his own worst enemy......if he can get his head on straight, stay healthy, and be a team player, there is no telling what he might accomplish....but his track record makes it a tough road to follow....

In comment 14355486 Tuckrule said:

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In comment 14355404 JohnB said: Quote: The spotlight doesn't shine as bright in Cleveland so OBJ won't shine as bright in Cleveland. This isn’t 1974. City doesn’t matter. Stars are everywhere and it’ll continue. He’s a great player many here sound like Odell is there ex gf

Yes it does, that's an idiotic comment. City absolutely matters, no matter what Twitter tells you. There are how many papers in NYC that cover the Giants and how many in Cleveland that cover the Browns? More reporters means more followers, means more takes means more attention. The internet doesn't make population irrelevant no matter what you dopey people think or say. JFC you're a moron. Why has everyone gone fucking stupid?

He would not have returned the same value to the NYG.

I hope he wins a Super Bowl.

I think he'll do well, but not anything earth shattering. There are a lot of weapons in Cleveland and whining to Mayfield about not getting the ball enough probably won't go over well. The Browns will definitely be interesting to watch this year

In comment 14355622 Joey in VA said:

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In comment 14355486 Tuckrule said: Quote: In comment 14355404 JohnB said: Quote: The spotlight doesn't shine as bright in Cleveland so OBJ won't shine as bright in Cleveland. This isn’t 1974. City doesn’t matter. Stars are everywhere and it’ll continue. He’s a great player many here sound like Odell is there ex gf Yes it does, that's an idiotic comment. City absolutely matters, no matter what Twitter tells you. There are how many papers in NYC that cover the Giants and how many in Cleveland that cover the Browns? More reporters means more followers, means more takes means more attention. The internet doesn't make population irrelevant no matter what you dopey people think or say. JFC you're a moron. Why has everyone gone fucking stupid?

he should be good for two touchdowns a game.

And 906 TD’s.

You heard it here first.

In comment 14355679 giantsFC said:

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And 906 TD’s. You heard it here first.

Career or single season best?

with Mayfield tossing him the rock and Landry and Njoku working underneath.

They have a team now, not a stinking pail of slime plus Saquon Barkley.

This is one of a number of great posts I've read of yours tonight.

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Cleveland is going to be an interesting follow this year... they have a lot of talent, but I think they have the wrong coach. Kitchens has zero HC experience (unless you count his associate title in Cleveland from last year) - not even in college. And he's even limited as a coordinator. The vast majority of his coaching career has been as a position coach. I think for a team to succeed with all of these personalities, you need a coach with a track record and actual experience. Otherwise, the first sign of turbulence is probably going to be harder to work through than it should be. Even the team doesn't have many vets or guys to lean on... Joe Thomas would have been great for that, but now he's gone. All of their skill guys are young... Mayfield, Chubb, Njoku, Hunt (when he's off SUSP), Beckham, Landry, Callaway.. Beckham and Landry are literally the "vets" in that group. Even defensively they're very young and inexperienced with guys like Garrett, Ward, Ogunjobi... They let Jaime Collins go. It reminds me a lot of the failed Juan Castillo experiment in PHI. They had a lot of personalities there that year... Reid was still the coach, but Casillo had basically no experience coaching defense in like 20 years. They weren't "awful" but, relative to expectations, that 2011 Eagles team was a disappointment. They finished strong so it covered up that they were 4-8 through 12 games and nowhere near the team people had them slated to be after 2010 and the offseason they had.

over football?

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This could end up being a humbling experience for him. It could mature him up a bit. Being away from the bright lights of NYC might be just what the doctor ordered. If that's the case, he could start playing hard every play again. He could focus on getting the Browns into the playoffs and beyond.

or ....

He could have trouble moving past this. Hate the fact that he's in Cleveland now. His ego could be just as inflated over there. His injury issues could be just as relevant with the Browns. He could still get double teamed into rarely seeing the ball thrown his way. He could worry more about getting a new contract than he does about football.

In comment 14355416 Joey in VA said:

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Do dumb look at me shit, get hurt and play in half of his team's games. Just like he did here.

+1 Throw in a rookie HC and things could get heated quickly if they lose early!

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In comment 14355336 adamg said: Quote: he could be spectacular... Agree with this statement. stats?

He was on track for a HOF career and being able to finally play with a QB in his prime will take his production to the next level. The only caveat is whether he can stay on the field.

Would love to see us win a Super Bowl without him though while he's still here.

1 ball they have a cupboard full of weapons and options ... his touches decrease but his impact is felt and shown with more big plays ... he'll get 12 to 16 TDs but his yds will look different

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In comment 14355679 giantsFC said:
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And 906 TD’s.

You heard it here first.


Career or single season best?


in one game........

I expect 3 or 4 primetime games and extensive national exposure on Sunday afternoon.
Cleveland should score a ton of points and OBJ will be a big part of that.

But he is very talented. He should do very well in Cleveland.

it will happen, but he's going to be in a division with notoriously dirty defenses/players in Pitts, Cincy and Baltimore.

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get a couple of cheap shots his way. Heck, a leg whip ended his season last year. What's going to happen if some guy on the Steelers or Ravens targets him low?

like Bryant, who was just as good and a lot bigger. They took him out; think OBJ is at risk here. Hope not, he is certainly a special in talent,