Mara: Giants are going definitely to address QB in draft

Not necessarily drafting anyone, certainly not saying they will spend a first rounder on a QB. Of course it would be unnecessary and pointless to say that, it’s obvious they are trying to find someone this year. But I wouldn’t take this statement as a guarantee they are drafting Haskins or Jones or whatever.

outside of the family !

because I've seen saying it myself for months, but contradicting himself doesn't help his cause.

Shhhhhhhh....

he says:

“Yes, we are definitely going to address the quarterback in this draft."

But he also says: "Would we love to have a QB coming out of this draft, yes, but only if we have a conviction about it."

How are these statements not contradictory? I guess it all depends on what they mean by "address." I assume it means that they will study all the QBs, and draft one if they have a conviction about that player.

"I would like to come out of this draft with a quarterback. Here is the thing. Show me what the grades are and what the value is. If the top QB’s are graded toward the bottom of the first round or in the second round, I am not going to insist that we take one at number six or number 17. Show me what the value is. That has always been our philosophy on that."

"I don't know why ___blank is an issue with the media or the fans"

I get that football owners are billionaires who are not accustomed to being questioned, but this attitude where he gets riled up at questioning when this team has been a dumpster fire for six years is pathetic whining.

“Here’s looking up your ad-dress!”.

In comment 14355853 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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"I don't know why ___blank is an issue with the media or the fans" I get that football owners are billionaires who are not accustomed to being questioned, but this attitude where he gets riled up at questioning when this team has been a dumpster fire for six years is pathetic whining.

He's definitely sounded defensive in all his comments the past few days.

He keep inserting himself into the process? Own the team, make your statements and let actual football people do this. He seems to be meddling far far too much lately. He hired a GM and a coach now let them work.

Mara can't get out of his own fucking way sometimes.

when John Mara talks to publicly. I wish he would stop doing it.

Quit getting involved with the process. You undermine the GM when you say "we are going to definitely address QB." Your only answer should be "our GM has a plan for the roster and a plan to win."

... maybe the GM has decided (rightly or wrongly) that Eli, Lauletta, and Tanney are good enough.

by Mara to get teams to jump the Giants for a QB (Haskins) to push down a defender in the draft. lol

In comment 14355853 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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"I don't know why ___blank is an issue with the media or the fans" I get that football owners are billionaires who are not accustomed to being questioned, but this attitude where he gets riled up at questioning when this team has been a dumpster fire for six years is pathetic whining.

This quote sounds like a BBI poster defending the faith...

doesn't talk themselves into a conviction

is part of the football brain trust. John is right there with him.
Face it, Giants fans, the Mara family are big time involved in the football side of things. They may be a big part of the decline of this team. If they are, it's going to be a long ride.

That said, it was clumsy in his wording. Just say 'we're looking at QBs, and all the positions' and move on.

I’m among the first to criticize Maras (except Kate and Rooney), and even I don’t see much cause for complaint here.

In comment 14355853 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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"I don't know why ___blank is an issue with the media or the fans" I get that football owners are billionaires who are not accustomed to being questioned, but this attitude where he gets riled up at questioning when this team has been a dumpster fire for six years is pathetic whining.

Because people want the blueprints to the PLAN! If they don't know exactly what Mara/DG is doing there is no plan, apparently. Just sounds like a guy who's sick of the same old questions. He'd be better off not speaking publicly, but he is and he can be annoyed if he wants to be.

And it says if they like a QB they will grab him, not that they are "definitely" going to.

The fans don't run the team. The media doesn't run the team. They will complain no matter what you do. Winning will stop the complaining. Just execute your plan.

Between Mara's comments and jtgiant's "fustrated" post from a week ago, there's a real vibe of "why won't you ungrateful jerks get on board with what we're doing" coming from the organization. I would definitely feel more comfortable is they stopped trying to appease/assuage every fan reaction and just did their jobs the best they could to build a winner.

I even referred to him as "Stein-Hitler" on a call into WFAN, that's how much I hated the man.

Then the Yankees won a whole bunch of World Series', and lo and behold I didn't hate him at all, in fact I grew to love the guy.

So I'm just not going to get bent out of shape over John Mara.

is he was making an example of a statement he will not make.

Basically everyone wants him to definitively say which QB is is taking and when. he is saying he is not going to do that.

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I even referred to him as "Stein-Hitler" on a call into WFAN, that's how much I hated the man. Then the Yankees won a whole bunch of World Series', and lo and behold I didn't hate him at all, in fact I grew to love the guy. So I'm just not going to get bent out of shape over John Mara.

Yeah, and the Steinbrenner example accurately describes the life cycle of a lot of fans (myself included), which is why Mara and the rest of the org shouldn't act flummoxed that people are discontent about everything right now. Just shut out the noise and do your best to build a winner.

John.

They should draft a QB prospect, even if it's a developmental QB and not Eli's designated successor.

Pick 6 and 17. You dont do that unless you are seriously considering that spot for QB. I see him basically saying very strong possibility we are pulling the trigger at either spot. We just have to finalize the grades (solidify them).

Just hope it isn't Jones at 17. Truthfully Haskins to me is the safest bet and is going to be a very good NFL QB. Lock has tremendous upside if he can get more consistent but he probably doesnt make 17.



I would hope they consider Rosen if they dont feel they can get Haskins.

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In comment 14355853 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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"I don't know why ___blank is an issue with the media or the fans" I get that football owners are billionaires who are not accustomed to being questioned, but this attitude where he gets riled up at questioning when this team has been a dumpster fire for six years is pathetic whining.

100% agree!

And Lauletta! Mara wants better backups

questioning the organization at every turn when they start winning. You don't get to be indignant at criticism when you are consistently losing. That is just called whining.

and he has appointed me "Unofficial GM" of the New York Football Giants. In that capacity, I will say that I am much more interested in using a third round pick to choose Ryan Finley or Clayton Thorson. For Thorson we may be able to wait for the fourth round. I am not interested in a first round QB.

I'd do it.

But I will say a few things about the value comments. If he means by value that they aren't going to reach and take a QB they don't like just to take a QB, I get it. On the other hand, you are rarely going to get a franchise grade QB "at value" because the demand will drive them up on people's draft boards. Waiting on value to match draft position is the formula they've been following for years and has only lead to a series of wasted draft picks on marginally talented QBs in rounds 3+. Time to get real about securing the future and change the formula.

I thought I saw him say they'd "like" to address qb in this draft but only if the value was there...

This is the first article that had a quote that said "definitely" that I have seen

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John,

You should know better. Shhh.

All he had to say was "I'm not going to speculate on what we are doing in the draft. I'll leave that to the media".

In comment 14355853 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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"I don't know why ___blank is an issue with the media or the fans" I get that football owners are billionaires who are not accustomed to being questioned, but this attitude where he gets riled up at questioning when this team has been a dumpster fire for six years is pathetic whining.

Exactly

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Maybe. They have old sayings, like "the meh in the hand is better than..." for a reason. There's likely some truth to it. Especially when you're desperate and panicking.

and he continues to demonstrate that he's very sensitive to the fans and media.

And I'm not sure he and DG are on the same page right now.

about Shurmer coming from the Andy Reid school of thought that you should draft a QB each season whether you needed one or not?

I wonder if that is what Mara was referring to, but he tried to be too cute by half in his answer.

In comment 14355853 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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"I don't know why ___blank is an issue with the media or the fans" I get that football owners are billionaires who are not accustomed to being questioned, but this attitude where he gets riled up at questioning when this team has been a dumpster fire for six years is pathetic whining.

Fair enough, but are the fans and media not also arrogant to think they know better than professionals?

In comment 14355928 Klaatu said:

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I even referred to him as "Stein-Hitler" on a call into WFAN, that's how much I hated the man. Then the Yankees won a whole bunch of World Series', and lo and behold I didn't hate him at all, in fact I grew to love the guy. So I'm just not going to get bent out of shape over John Mara.

so all we need is for Mara to be suspended by the commissioner and go away for a couple of years?

he didn't say anything revealing at all -- you all are reading way too much into his comments

if Mara drafts Hideki Irabu.

chit-stirring view of his comments

In comment 14355865 Joey in VA said:

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He keep inserting himself into the process? Own the team, make your statements and let actual football people do this. He seems to be meddling far far too much lately. He hired a GM and a coach now let them work.

This 2x he can't just not say anything he can't help but put
himself front and center and say it's up to the GM coaches scouts ect .