the defense all talk of trading up for qb or RT should stop. the defense from nose to safety is scary awful. there are a few players here and there but depth and positional players are sorely lacking. If Beal backs up Jenkins the left corner is open to any street agent.
the giants know this and they are going to draft into the strength of this draft which is defense. lots of dl’ db’s and lber’s to choose from. We should draft at least 6 defensive players if not more if the draft falls right.
stop the senseless qb talk! it’s not happening!
sounds reasonable.
So take defensive players where appropriate, but while you're perusing the roster, you may notice holes all over the place.
take good players, on either side of the ball, it's almost impossible to pick a player at a position where the Giants do not need help.
Whether the QB they like is there is another story.
And the reason why is that he has a bad back. OL with bad backs don't get better. Our plans shouldn't be to incorporate a liability. We are already covered with a liability at RT in Wheeler. No need to double-down.
The medicals must not look great on him - I would think he'd be signed by now otherwise.
Maybe, the Giants and Remmers agree on a deal but want to wait until FA compensatory picks expire...so it does not effect the 3rd rd pick for losing Collins
Maybe, the Giants and Remmers agree on a deal but want to wait until FA compensatory picks expire...so it does not effect the 3rd rd pick for losing Collins
Remmers was released so he doesn't count towards the comp pick formula.
Maybe, the Giants and Remmers agree on a deal but want to wait until FA compensatory picks expire...so it does not effect the 3rd rd pick for losing Collins
Remmers was released so he doesn't count against the comp formula.
I assume he's still recovering from the recent surgery, and that before we consider signing him we'll wait until he recovers to see whether he can still play effectively.
By the way, the Giants' board is made taking need into account. All teams do it this way despite what you think. Therefore, if pick 17 comes around and there is an OT they had rated around 15 and the "defenders" are rated 20 or lower, you take the OT. If they have Haskins rated #1 and the available "defenders" rated at #6 or lower, they should take Haskins.
Also, keep in mind it's not going to happen for them this coming season. It's extremely unlikely. The 2020 season is when we will see if the rebuild, and it is a rebuild, will be effective. This doesn't mean SB for the 2020 season. It just means we will start to see if things are coming together as a whole team. 2019 draft, roughly $80 million to spend in 2020 FA, and the 2020 draft. Then we will really see what we have.
Anyway Giants with SB have a great running attack. Build the defense up now through this draft and you have the recipe for winning, some next season, but in a couple of years with a young gifted qb, a real contender.
Secondly, the price for OL went up BIG TIME this year. And quality OL aren't available in abundance. You have a lousy RT. You just want to ignore the position and wind up paying through the nose next FA or hope you get lucky with pot luck later in the draft?
Third-- wouldnt it be great to know leading into 2019 that you had built something for SB AND the next new QB?
You just can't ignore the OL early in the draft. It would require either too much luck or way of an overpay to fix it for next year -- and sometimes it takes a year for OLines to come together. So is that what you want for the new QB in 2020?
The needs on this team are plenty. I think we can all agree that the offense needs both a Right Tackle and a future QB to develop. The defense needs more pass rushers from both the edge and the 5 Tech. If things fall just right we might be able to address 3 of those positions with picks 6, 17 & 37.
Haskins, Burns and Risner would be good examples of players who should be available when we pick.
I would also think if DG likes a player available in early in round 3, he will trade up from 95 and get him, whether that is a DL, LB, WR or CB.
I think the goal of this draft is to come away with a QB, OT, Pass Rusher and maybe another starter.
SO how much of a premium do you really want to place on him?
Accept it.. That's just reality..
Sitting here picking based on roster judgement alone isn't accurate either.
He's probably similar to Wheeler at this point.
So many people on BBI latch on to a name and feel like the player will be a panacea. He won't. He sucks.
As for their defense, I'm all for drafting an impact player or two, but as I've said repeatedly the best defense is still a good offense, and a good offense depends on a good offensive line.
During the next college season, all these guys that are seemingly better than what's available this year will be looked at with a fine-toothed comb and then all of sudden, they aren't slam dunks anymore.
There have been plenty of good, playoff caliber starting QBs drafted since - but they all had warts come draft season.
You gotta take a shot at some point in replacing a franchise QB - if there's a guy that seems close - I think you got to go for it.