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Kiper Mock 3.0 - Haskins & Wilkins

Giantophile : 3/26/2019 10:14 am
Has the Giants selecting Haskins at 6 and Wilkins at 17. It's behind the 'Insider' paywall but here's the Giants part.

I'm still on the fence about Haskins, but I'd be OK with this outcome.
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defensive tackle?!  
ArcadeSlumlord : 3/26/2019 10:17 am : link
DT? We need a RT... or an edge rusher!
RE: defensive tackle?!  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2019 10:18 am : link
In comment 14357078 ArcadeSlumlord said:
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DT? We need a RT... or an edge rusher!


Surprising confidence in Olsen Pierre as starter?
Haskins and Wilkins would be a slam dunk  
Chris684 : 3/26/2019 10:20 am : link
To me, Wilkins should be talked about at #6.

He's that good.
I don’t love it  
cokeduplt : 3/26/2019 10:21 am : link
But it’s solid
RE: defensive tackle?!  
Jay on the Island : 3/26/2019 10:28 am : link
In comment 14357078 ArcadeSlumlord said:
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DT? We need a RT... or an edge rusher!

DT or DE in the Giants scheme is just as big of a need as RT.
RE: RE: defensive tackle?!  
Capt. Don : 3/26/2019 10:34 am : link
In comment 14357082 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14357078 ArcadeSlumlord said:


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DT? We need a RT... or an edge rusher!



Surprising confidence in Olsen Pierre as starter?


I have more confidence in Pierre than I do Wheeler.
RT is a more important position.
I have more confidence that we can find a 3-4 DE in the middle rounds than a starting RT.
Wilkins, Tomlinson and Hill  
BSIMatt : 3/26/2019 10:42 am : link
up front would be a nice start.
I'm just not sure I agree with a defensive lineman in this defense  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/26/2019 10:43 am : link
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Wilkins  
RAIN : 3/26/2019 10:44 am : link
Gets stuck on blocks, and to me, doesn’t say first round.

Good player, but more solid than star. I don’t want that in rd. 1.
Much prefer the other mock, Schragers mock,  
PatersonPlank : 3/26/2019 10:45 am : link
with Lock and Ferrell.
I would prefer Lock  
Chip : 3/26/2019 10:47 am : link
over Haskins. Lock is more athletic.
We have a WILTING Veteran at QB  
ArcadeSlumlord : 3/26/2019 10:50 am : link
you're damn right im more concerned about RT. Wheeler is a GREAT depth player. We need some TALENT at the RT position. We got linebacker investments to assist Pierre. And BJ and RJ arent good enough?
Am I missing something here?  
ArcadeSlumlord : 3/26/2019 10:52 am : link
B.J. Hill
RJ McIntosh
Olsen Pierre
Dalvin Tomlinson

Whats wrong with the depth at this position? Nothing.
We're talking about the 5-tech  
allstarjim : 3/26/2019 11:00 am : link
Dalvin's the nose, B.J. is the 3-tech, McIntosh hasn't been healthy at all. It's a concern.
Don't know if Wilkins fits the 3-4 scheme  
jeff57 : 3/26/2019 11:01 am : link
More of a 4-3 DT penetrator.
Has  
Jerry from Maine : 3/26/2019 11:01 am : link
Kiper ever been right...
The Giants have...  
Klaatu : 3/26/2019 11:05 am : link
A 31 year-old (soon to be 32) Left Tackle who's average at best...a human turnstile at Right Tackle...and various-sized tomato cans at Center.

So, yeah, they should spend their first two draft picks on a young QB who can spend a year watching Eli get clobbered and Barkley get stuffed, and a DT who can get used to being gassed midway through the third quarter.
Last year Kiper said we were taking Darnold.  
Heisenberg : 3/26/2019 11:08 am : link
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Re: olson pierre  
mittenedman : 3/26/2019 11:11 am : link
The problem with Wilikns there is he’s not an edge guy and theyve got Tomlinson and Hill inside. That 5T DE position is on or outside the OT - think Calais Campbell in AZ as the prototype.

The guy who really fits that position in round 1 is Gary IMO. I love Wilkins and qed steal 1 of their jobs.

I do think they could let Dalvin walk and move Hill to NT where I think hed be outstanding.
Ed Alexander LSU  
Boatie Warrant : 3/26/2019 11:51 am : link
in the later rounds would be nice for the DL
OUTSTANDING !  
Spider56 : 3/26/2019 12:20 pm : link
Kiper is a putz who is seldom if ever right ... Now I can rest easy that we will go in a different direction.
RE: RE: defensive tackle?!  
SGMen : 3/26/2019 12:22 pm : link
In comment 14357082 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14357078 ArcadeSlumlord said:


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DT? We need a RT... or an edge rusher!



Surprising confidence in Olsen Pierre as starter?
I am going out on a limb: McIntosh will win a starting job at some point this year. I know he missed camp and had health issues, but he has talent.

Pierre is a body with experience. That is all he is and I've had preferred Mauro over him.
I don't mind this scenario  
nyjuggernaut2 : 3/26/2019 12:23 pm : link
Wilkins best position in a 3-4 scheme is at the 5 which the Giants need. BJ Hill plays the 3 and Tomlinson the 1.

However, I'd still prefer using both 1st rounders on defense and then trading the 2nd to AZ for Rosen.
RE: Has  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/26/2019 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14357202 Jerry from Maine said:
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Kiper ever been right...

He knew Flowers was a late 1st round project.
I'm  
AcidTest : 3/26/2019 1:50 pm : link
fine with Wilkins at #17, although I agree he's probably best suited for a 4-3. I'd pass on Haskins and any QB at #6, and probably for the entire draft.
I would hope  
Jay in Toronto : 3/26/2019 1:53 pm : link
Wilkins was the BPA on their board.


As I've said before, hard to evaluate a raft without knowing who else was available when we picked.
Nobody has won the  
Gregorio : 3/26/2019 4:25 pm : link
Starting left DT position yet. Do you recall how ineffective this defense was last season? Assuming Wilkins was BPA at 17, I’m good with the pick.
That's a good scenario for us...  
Torrag : 3/26/2019 4:43 pm : link
...much better than Schrager's mess. Go Mel!
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