Let's make sure we take Will Grier, who otherwise would go in the 5th round, at #6 overall just to make sure no one else takes him. Let's also make sure we take a punter at #17 because he has a leg touched by the hand of God. Sounds like the Giants way.
Let's make sure we take Will Grier, who otherwise would go in the 5th round, at #6 overall just to make sure no one else takes him. Let's also make sure we take a punter at #17 because he has a leg touched by the hand of God. Sounds like the Giants way.
You honestly believe that Will Grier is a 5th round pick? That seems unrealistic, IMO.
I actually think he's the type of guy you can build around cheap and succeed, you just don't want to give him that fat second contract he'll be looking at.
on Darnold, Rosen, Allen, and Haskins, for Daniel Jones or Will Grier. I just can't wrap my head around that...and if that's true, Shurmur and Gettleman will need a new job in a year.
Honestly they ar doing a great job disguising. They we're so in fucking love with Haskins at pro day it almost seemed like a ruse to get a team to trade up and drop one of Boss/Allen/Williams down.
on Darnold, Rosen, Allen, and Haskins, for Daniel Jones or Will Grier. I just can't wrap my head around that...and if that's true, Shurmur and Gettleman will need a new job in a year.
I'd be cool with passing on Darnold, Rosen, Allen for Saquon as long as they turned around and solved the QB the following year. Jones (a noodle armed guy with poor accuracy) and Grier (who is not special in any attribute one looks for in a QB) would be so disappointing.
on Darnold, Rosen, Allen, and Haskins, for Daniel Jones or Will Grier. I just can't wrap my head around that...and if that's true, Shurmur and Gettleman will need a new job in a year.
I'd be cool with passing on Darnold, Rosen, Allen for Saquon as long as they turned around and solved the QB the following year. Jones (a noodle armed guy with poor accuracy) and Grier (who is not special in any attribute one looks for in a QB) would be so disappointing.
This is coming from ESPN. Didn't we just hear news from Jon C that Lock is in the conversation? I would trust what Jon C and jt report before what ESPN reports.
and they will stick to it. And they may deem both of these guys 2nd round values on their board, and so if they are there at #37, that's where they are good with drafting them. Perhaps it's in the 3rd. But I do expect a trade up at some point using the extra 4th and 5th rounders to get another player in the 2nd or 3rd round. I don't see us drafting 5 guys in rounds 4 and 5.
Anyone disagree? IMHO this would be a waste of a high draft pick. The fan base would rip them a new one if this would ever happen!
I do disagree. Both Grier and Jones have played at a much higher level of competition....and both are more accomplished passers and higher level overall prospects that Lauletta.
Lock makes more sense than Jones despite the Cutliffe connection. Much greater arm, better athleticism. Haskins the most well rounded despite one year starting. The thing with Jones or Grier you can get Jones likely at 17 and Grier even later.
but don't act like these aren't decent additions at QB in a later round(3rd).
everyone wants the answer to QB this season. the truth is just because we need one doesn't mean there is one.
and please don't bring up last season. Barkley is amazing, we haven't had a true #1 rb since Tiki. Darnold is a turnover waiting to happen. allen/rosen had plenty of question marks. we made the right choice.
that dude can flat-out play. I'd be pretty stoked if we got him, (yes, even at 6). I think he's underrated and suspect that the draft will evidence that.
that dude can flat-out play. I'd be pretty stoked if we got him, (yes, even at 6). I think he's underrated and suspect that the draft will evidence that.
Slightly below average in every tangible (size, athleticism, arm, accuracy). Reportedly a high maintenance type of guy. Would be an epic disappointment.
that dude can flat-out play. I'd be pretty stoked if we got him, (yes, even at 6). I think he's underrated and suspect that the draft will evidence that.
Did you see him throw at the combine? It didn't look good. Really struggled with his accuracy. The deep outs and post corners, all the throws that required some oomphf he was inaccurate on. I liked Grier for his production and what he did, but his lack of arm talent and his struggles on challenging throws have me backing off of him.
we'll hear how the Giants always telegraph their moves and how everyone knew the pick was ________________.
I feel as uncertain as I ever had about who the pick will be. Obviously it's early, on draft day we might have a much better idea, but I still say until they're on the clock no one will know for sure who they are taking, maybe not even the Giants.
Shurmur went to personally see Grier and Jones would be the classic NYG familiarity pick. But these wouldn't be at #6.
Which interest is real?
You honestly believe that Will Grier is a 5th round pick? That seems unrealistic, IMO.
He announced it? That's interesting. Did the Giants also announce that he has full autonomy over the draft?
Oh, I get it - you're just guessing like the rest of us.
I'm in this train of thought for sure. I have a feeling the want Haskins.
Honestly they ar doing a great job disguising. They we're so in fucking love with Haskins at pro day it almost seemed like a ruse to get a team to trade up and drop one of Boss/Allen/Williams down.
I'd be cool with passing on Darnold, Rosen, Allen for Saquon as long as they turned around and solved the QB the following year. Jones (a noodle armed guy with poor accuracy) and Grier (who is not special in any attribute one looks for in a QB) would be so disappointing.
Haskins
Murray
Lock
Jones
Grier
When do we hear Finley and Rypien so we can have the entire collection
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on Darnold, Rosen, Allen, and Haskins, for Daniel Jones or Will Grier. I just can't wrap my head around that...and if that's true, Shurmur and Gettleman will need a new job in a year.
I'd be cool with passing on Darnold, Rosen, Allen for Saquon as long as they turned around and solved the QB the following year. Jones (a noodle armed guy with poor accuracy) and Grier (who is not special in any attribute one looks for in a QB) would be so disappointing.
...solved the QB PROBLEM is what I meant to say
And then it was Jones and Grier.
I wonder which QB Kim Jones thinks we'll take ;>)
Hopefully they're just doing there due diligence, at least I hope.
I do disagree. Both Grier and Jones have played at a much higher level of competition....and both are more accomplished passers and higher level overall prospects that Lauletta.
Lock makes more sense than Jones despite the Cutliffe connection. Much greater arm, better athleticism. Haskins the most well rounded despite one year starting. The thing with Jones or Grier you can get Jones likely at 17 and Grier even later.
everyone wants the answer to QB this season. the truth is just because we need one doesn't mean there is one.
and please don't bring up last season. Barkley is amazing, we haven't had a true #1 rb since Tiki. Darnold is a turnover waiting to happen. allen/rosen had plenty of question marks. we made the right choice.
Slightly below average in every tangible (size, athleticism, arm, accuracy). Reportedly a high maintenance type of guy. Would be an epic disappointment.
I think you have it right
Did you see him throw at the combine? It didn't look good. Really struggled with his accuracy. The deep outs and post corners, all the throws that required some oomphf he was inaccurate on. I liked Grier for his production and what he did, but his lack of arm talent and his struggles on challenging throws have me backing off of him.
I feel as uncertain as I ever had about who the pick will be. Obviously it's early, on draft day we might have a much better idea, but I still say until they're on the clock no one will know for sure who they are taking, maybe not even the Giants.
Me too. But none are franchise QBs.
My comps are:
Murray - Wilson
Haskins - Moon
Lock - slightly more mobile Bledsoe
Finley - Fitzpatrick
Grier - Peterman
Jones - Tannehill
for the first two guys, I'm not putting either in the HOF, just saying they have attributes like those two HOF caliber QBs