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OPI & DPI Now reviewable

Jim Bur(n)t : 3/26/2019 7:51 pm
Per the AZ Meeting
It will slow games  
UConn4523 : 3/26/2019 7:52 pm : link
but this had to be done. So many atrocious calls that swung games.
DBs also  
PEEJ : 3/26/2019 7:54 pm : link
have to play with one hand tied behind their backs
Agreed  
Big Blue '56 : 3/26/2019 7:55 pm : link
UConn
I’m ok with this...  
trueblueinpw : 3/26/2019 7:56 pm : link
But I figure the NFL will figure out some way to fuck it up. The concept of replay is pretty solid. Yet, it doesn’t seem to make the calls any better. How the fuck this happens is beyond me. But, I guess we can hope for the best.
RE: Agreed  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/26/2019 7:57 pm : link
In comment 14358287 Big Blue '56 said:
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UConn


Wow it includes "Non-calls".
Now, how about making roughing the passer reviewable?  
mfsd : 3/26/2019 7:58 pm : link
Wait, never mind, that would fuck up the automatic 15 yards for tapping Brady to give the Pats a 1st down on 3rd and long
This  
AcidTest : 3/26/2019 8:00 pm : link
is a bad idea. It will really slow down games that are already too long. Make PI a 15 yard penalty like college, and extend the five yard chuck rule to 10 yards.
That's really bad  
BigBlueJ : 3/26/2019 8:01 pm : link
DB's can't do jack shit nowadays.
RE: This  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/26/2019 8:02 pm : link
In comment 14358294 AcidTest said:
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is a bad idea. It will really slow down games that are already too long. Make PI a 15 yard penalty like college, and extend the five yard chuck rule to 10 yards.


+1 5yrd chuck rule is ridiculous in light of this development.
They need to adopt the college system.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/26/2019 8:02 pm : link
It is much smoother.
Why do people  
Big Rick in FL : 3/26/2019 8:07 pm : link
Think it will slow down games? The amount of challenge flags didn't change. So a PI gets challenged instead of a fumble or a fumble recovery. What's the difference?
RE: Why do people  
robbieballs2003 : 3/26/2019 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14358302 Big Rick in FL said:
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Think it will slow down games? The amount of challenge flags didn't change. So a PI gets challenged instead of a fumble or a fumble recovery. What's the difference?


While you are correct with what yoy say I think this has more to do with the last 2 minutes of each half.
This absolutely needed to be done.  
Red Dog : 3/26/2019 8:23 pm : link
And it won't slow down the games. As previously stated, it's still within the overall challenge framework.
Good.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/26/2019 8:27 pm : link
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I don't like it ...  
Beer Man : 3/26/2019 8:27 pm : link
I know there have been some bad calls that have impacted the outcome, but PI can be called on just about every pass, and I see this frustrating the game more than benefiting it
Not a fan of going this route.  
Torrag : 3/26/2019 8:34 pm : link
The idea that replay consistently and correctly repairs wrongs has been proven false for a long time now. Why enlarge the probelm by applying it to one of the most difficult judgement calls in the game? It's going to be a nightmare.
Are you trying to say,  
Doomster : 3/26/2019 9:00 pm : link
Not a fan of going this route.
Torrag : 8:34 pm : link : reply
The idea that replay consistently and correctly repairs wrongs has been proven false for a long time now.


that replay has been more wrong than right?
...  
Mdgiantsfan : 3/26/2019 9:13 pm : link
What a joke this league is becoming! Caving to the whining Sean Payton smh
RE: Why do people  
Capt. Don : 3/26/2019 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14358302 Big Rick in FL said:
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Think it will slow down games? The amount of challenge flags didn't change. So a PI gets challenged instead of a fumble or a fumble recovery. What's the difference?


It is more likely that teams will exhaust their challenges vs just not using them but the crux of your statement, I agree with. It wont substantially extend games.
RE: It will slow games  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/26/2019 9:32 pm : link
In comment 14358280 UConn4523 said:
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but this had to be done. So many atrocious calls that swung games.


Why? Just make it one of the 2 challenges. Don’t add the number. You get what you get
This is ridiculous. Teams are going to run out of challenges by half.  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/26/2019 9:34 pm : link
And you are going to have the same problem they did before because nobody is going to have challenges left by the 4th quarter.
I would prefer  
mattyblue : 3/26/2019 10:17 pm : link
them get rid of replay altogether. Bad calls happen
Are they adding to the # of challenges  
ryanmkeane : 3/26/2019 10:42 pm : link
or still keeping 2 per game?
Just a gentle reminder. Once upon a time, there was a big furor  
Marty in Albany : 3/26/2019 11:51 pm : link
in the NFL about legalizing the forward pass. And then, heaven forbid, they drastically changed the shape of the ball to make it easier to throw.

If these new rule changes don't work, they can be changed. If they do work, maybe the NFL won't have to take as much heat from the gambling...er gaming industry.
Games are too long anyway..  
Chris in Philly : 3/27/2019 12:04 am : link
Who cares if it’s five more minutes? They want to speed up the game, the can cut down on the commercial breaks.
One of the worst  
huygens20 : 3/27/2019 12:11 am : link
changes they made was the reviewing of every TD and every turnover.

Up the amount of challenges coaches can issue. This 1+1 system is stupid.

make it like TOs. you get 3 a game or 2 every half and just get on with it.

Any penalty that results in a FD should be reviewable.
Good. The call impacts games too much  
Section331 : 3/27/2019 9:18 am : link
not to be reviewable. Just put a timeclock on the review, and hold to it.
How do..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/27/2019 9:24 am : link
you get incontrovertable evidence that a foul didn't happen unless there is absolutely no contact at all.

This rule seems to add subjectivity, not remove it.
does it solve the issue from the Saints/Rams game?  
BillKo : 3/27/2019 9:29 am : link
Absolutely.

But, it now opens up that can of worms where we are breaking down every frame of a potential play, and trying to determine if there was a foul. Every little tug and body contact that can be interpreted differently any game.

And that's the part of replay I can't stand.

the other good thing is...  
BillKo : 3/27/2019 9:30 am : link
...defensive players will start getting some OPI calls!!!!!

They let that go way too much in favor of the offense.
I guess I'm an outlier  
River Mike : 3/27/2019 9:37 am : link
on this issue of games being too long and IR slowing down games. The Giants game can't be too long for me. I wait all week for it, my family gathers at my house for it each Sunday, making it a family event. I would rather have the game last 4 hrs than 3 hrs.

And I think the drama of a challenged call while all of us debate the outcome and watch replays just adds to our involvement in the game. I read so much about the games being too long and I just don't get it. If I look forward to, and enjoy something, it can't last long enough.
The problem  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/27/2019 9:56 am : link
is really the subjectivity of the penalty..me personally, I feel like PI, defenseless
player, and roughing the passer all need to be scaled back. Review isnt the answer. The way these rules are enforced on the field needs to be addressed.

WOW  
Alex_Webster : 3/27/2019 10:56 am : link
Every good play is going to be discussed at Nauseam. When does hand checking come in now? How crazy is this going to be.
Alex  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/27/2019 11:04 am : link
agreed. It's a can of worms. This is the wrong way to go



they're crippling themselves...  
I Love Clams Casino : 3/27/2019 11:54 am : link
Was the game so bad before instant replay? You took the good calls with the bad calls and that was it. Whatever they called, they called. Now you still have to take the good with the bad, it's just open to debate.
I think  
Sneakers O'toole : 3/27/2019 11:57 am : link
they need to take a lighter approach to flags across the board

I've frequently pondered...  
BamaBlue : 3/27/2019 12:02 pm : link
what could the NFL possibly do that could be worse than watching a broadcast with Troy Aikman doing the color? Well... congratulations this is it.

NFL football games will be like watching "The View" while striking a hammer to the side of your head.
What is pass  
lecky : 3/27/2019 8:27 pm : link
Interference anyhow. The defender always has a hand on the receiver. Belichek will destroy this system. With 3 minutes to go in a game, Brady will throw a pass and if it is incomplete Belichek will challenge it. In slow motion there is pass interference on every play. There will be 5 identical plays every game that will not be called and when it is challenged they have to call it. Ridiculous
Games Are Too Long....but not because of Challenges  
islander1 : 3/27/2019 10:56 pm : link
It's because of the ridiculous amount of commercials.

I don't watch the NFL anymore, other than Giants games. Watching games I don't have a real interest in these days is as dull as watching baseball (on television).
Good  
adamg : 3/28/2019 1:20 am : link
Every play should be reviewable. They should just steal the college system. It's so much better.
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