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NFL draft boards vs Draftnik draft boards

Milton : 3/26/2019 8:46 pm
If you took the 32 most popular draftniks and compared their boards with each other, you would find a helluva lot more consensus than if you looked at the draft boards for the 32 NFL teams. And there's a lot of disagreement among the draftniks this year, so you can imagine the variety of opinions that must exist across the 32 NFL teams.

You can google it, but about five or ten years ago (I've lost perspective on time) the Cowboys accidentally revealed their draft board via post-draft photos of their war room. They actually made the same mistake two years in a row, but not since (even though I emailed them several years ago asking if they could do it pre-draft this time around). The point is that looking at their draft board was an eye opener in terms of how one team's 1st round pick is another team's 4th round pick and vice versa.

My advice: read about the prospects, learn as much as you can, put together a list of those you like and those you don't, but try not to rank them or get too attached to the rankings in your head.

That being said, here are some recently updated draftnik boards...
The Huddle Report Top 200

Draft Board Guru Top 64
DBG Value Board--offense
DBG Value Board--defense
The biggest issue I have with the draft-media  
Sy'56 : 3/26/2019 9:16 pm : link
They all cop each other for over 90% of their opinions. So afraid of being wrong and that don't mind being among the consensus if they are.

Kind of like....high school ?
RE: The biggest issue I have with the draft-media  
Sy'56 : 3/26/2019 9:16 pm : link
In comment 14358372 Sy'56 said:
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They all cop each other for over 90% of their opinions. So afraid of being wrong and that don't mind being among the consensus if they are.

Kind of like....high school ?


*copy
Sy  
Joey in VA : 3/26/2019 9:21 pm : link
Do you get the feeling that there is a top 3 in Bosa, Allen and Q. Williams and kind of everyone else? I am assuming Murray goes 1st, there's too much fire for him not to and I have to think those 3 blue chips are just too good to not go 2-4.
RE: The biggest issue I have with the draft-media  
Milton : 3/26/2019 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14358372 Sy'56 said:
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They all cop each other for over 90% of their opinions. So afraid of being wrong and that don't mind being among the consensus if they are.
That's why I respect you as much for being wrong about Connor McDermott as I do for being right about Braden Smith.
RE: Sy  
Sy'56 : 3/26/2019 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14358381 Joey in VA said:
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Do you get the feeling that there is a top 3 in Bosa, Allen and Q. Williams and kind of everyone else? I am assuming Murray goes 1st, there's too much fire for him not to and I have to think those 3 blue chips are just too good to not go 2-4.


I think there are teams that will like OT Jawaan Taylor more than some think
Alright Sy...  
bw in dc : 3/26/2019 9:52 pm : link
give me a sneak peak on your eval of Ryan Finley... ;)
Sy  
Samiam : 3/26/2019 10:05 pm : link
Do you think there’s a chance the Giants take that OT. With the number of edge rushers available, and the scarcity of good OL, I can see drafting a RT that high. It would go a long towards solidifying the OL. Question, can he switch over to LT in the future and replace Solder?
RE: Sy  
Sy'56 : 3/26/2019 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14358420 Samiam said:
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Do you think there’s a chance the Giants take that OT. With the number of edge rushers available, and the scarcity of good OL, I can see drafting a RT that high. It would go a long towards solidifying the OL. Question, can he switch over to LT in the future and replace Solder?


I do think it is possible, Taylor is a Gettleman guy
Sy  
jayg5 : 3/26/2019 10:11 pm : link
I’m not scout but I’d be fine with Burns at 6

Thoughts on him?
RE: The biggest issue I have with the draft-media  
Anakim : 3/26/2019 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14358372 Sy'56 said:
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They all cop each other for over 90% of their opinions. So afraid of being wrong and that don't mind being among the consensus if they are.

Kind of like....high school ?


Haha. Hey, to your credit, you had Max Scharping as like a top-15, top-20 prospect. He obviously won't go that high, but if he pans out like Braden Smith did, you'll look great.
Gary  
Marty866b : 3/26/2019 11:11 pm : link
IMO, checks a lot of boxes for the Giants.
It's interesting how a couple of those have  
USAF NYG Fan : 3/27/2019 3:32 am : link
Haskins ahead of Murray. One has Lock ahead of Murray.

Honestly, I've been wondering about this. Not that I'm some kind of expert but I watched a lot of QB X vs team X youtube videos to look them over. I can't remember which game it was but the comments and announcers for the game were drooling over Murray's accuracy, arm talent, mobility, etc. However, I saw a lot of bad decision throws that should have been intercepted during that game.
RE: Sy  
Sy'56 : 3/27/2019 6:13 am : link
In comment 14358426 jayg5 said:
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I’m not scout but I’d be fine with Burns at 6

Thoughts on him?


I am afraid he is another Aaron Maybe. Him at #6 is no good on my board.
RE: RE: The biggest issue I have with the draft-media  
Sy'56 : 3/27/2019 6:14 am : link
In comment 14358430 Anakim said:
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In comment 14358372 Sy'56 said:


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They all cop each other for over 90% of their opinions. So afraid of being wrong and that don't mind being among the consensus if they are.

Kind of like....high school ?



Haha. Hey, to your credit, you had Max Scharping as like a top-15, top-20 prospect. He obviously won't go that high, but if he pans out like Braden Smith did, you'll look great.


During the season I had him as a possibility up there....but his grade is going to end up in the round 3 area.
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Klaatu : 3/27/2019 6:31 am : link
In comment 14358538 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 14358426 jayg5 said:


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I’m not scout but I’d be fine with Burns at 6

Thoughts on him?



I am afraid he is another Aaron Maybe. Him at #6 is no good on my board.


Was that a typo or deliberate? Either way it's pretty funny.
That is why I find it  
jvm52106 : 3/27/2019 8:27 am : link
very funny when people here start saying how stupid the Giants would be to do this or that.. None of us knows how teams stack tehir boards and what actual NFL scouts and GMs think of specific players. For all we know Lock could be the highest rated QB on many teams lists. I would bet that at least half the league would not draft Murray in the first round based on height and baseball options alone. Haskins, who knows where he is being slotted. He could be Ben Roethlisberger or more David Garrard.

Lock has his detractors but, he also has a lot of folks in his corner, especially those who love arm strength and experience. He has both!
RE: It's interesting how a couple of those have  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/27/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14358520 USAF NYG Fan said:
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Haskins ahead of Murray. One has Lock ahead of Murray.

Honestly, I've been wondering about this. Not that I'm some kind of expert but I watched a lot of QB X vs team X youtube videos to look them over. I can't remember which game it was but the comments and announcers for the game were drooling over Murray's accuracy, arm talent, mobility, etc. However, I saw a lot of bad decision throws that should have been intercepted during that game.


Murray is not aside fire prospect like Luck was. His size disability as playing in a college O are all areas of concern. As well as Giants decision making . And for all the gushing about his athletic ability good luck on Sundays in the NFL. The Big 12 doesn’t play D at All and he’s going to be running for his life behind that Az line
Lately it seems that  
Jay in Toronto : 3/27/2019 10:15 am : link
Q Williams is the guy falling out of the top three in most drafts where there is someone falling out of that top three.

Thoughts?
Wouldn't be shocked at Taylor either.  
mittenedman : 3/27/2019 10:27 am : link
I don't think the Giants want a serviceable OLine. They are going for a mutant OL - a best in the league line.

If they could get their preference of Jones/Grier at 17 too - quite a haul.
I dont think as fans sometimes we dont understand  
blueblood : 3/27/2019 10:41 am : link
that teams don't use Mel Kiper's, Todd McShay or anyone else's list of 1-100..

then we get pissed when our team takes player #10 on Mel's or whoever's little list @ #6 and then we scream WE COULD HAVE TRADED DOWN !!!!!

As I have understood it explained over the years ( and it may have changed or be different for different teams ). Players get assigned a grade.. You can have several players with the same grade and those are grouped into rows.

For example.. Looking an SY'56 grades from last year. Baker Mayfield, Isaiah Oliver, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Denzel Ward, Josh Jackson, Darius Leonard, and Bradley Chubb all had around the same grade.. 88-89...

They could potentially all be on the same row.. Now teams will value players differently based on scheme etc etc..

BTW Barkley was a 94...


Beyond the first few players  
David B. : 3/27/2019 11:02 am : link
There's not much "consensus of opinion" on the boards of those links at the top of this thread. They're all over the place.
Sy  
ryanmkeane : 3/28/2019 11:57 am : link
assuming the top 3-5 go as somewhat predicted, who are the 3-4 guys that immediately come to mind for the Giants pick should they stay at 6?
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