Take this for whatever it's worth.
1) Remmers has agreed to terms with the Giants. He cannot pass a physical. Once he can he's signing a 2 yr deal with the Giants. They anticipate he'll be healthy by early May.
2) The giants are interested in Rosen but will not part with one of their top 3 picks. I was told they would offer this years 3 and a future conditional 3. The biggest fear with the Giants is acquiring Rosen is an immediate QB controversy. It would start in OTA's both in the media and locker room. Conversely, a guy like Jones or lock the fans and media will understand needs time to sit.
3) The Giants are going defense with their first pick. Williams will be the pick if he falls (same with allen or bosa) If he's gone the Giants like, in order, White, Burns, Gary.
4) The Giants love Greedy Williams and will take him at 17 if he's on the board.
5) Some free agents they're in contract with. Shane Ray, Mohammad Wilkerson and Danny Shelton. Nothing will happen before the draft.
6) If the giants go offense in the first two rounds it will be a big body WR or a QB. With remmers in the fold the giants will wait til rounds 3 and 4 to bolster their depth.
Flame away
Another person who doesn't get it. QB controversies isn't just about the QB. You really think Eli can't handle it... come on man. The problem is the NY Media. Every question to all the players is going to be about Eli and Rosen. It isn't the Eli that would be an issue it would affect their whole team.
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perfect prospect to fall into their lap at QB. Here’s the issue, they don’t exist. You have to take chances, and right now this front office would rather play it safe and be cool with 5-8 win seasons then actually do something to ignite a little fire into this team. Nothing is safer and more predictable than trotting out Eli again.
Everyone says “oh he’ll play better with a better OL.” Yeah, no shit. As would every other QB. But the pocket isn’t going to be clean on every single play. Injuries happen. Shit happens. Trotting him out there again solves absolutely nothing. We know what’s eli is at this point in his career.
Would you trade Barkley for Sam Darnold right now? I wouldn't.
Without thinking twice. And the Jets would laugh before hanging up the phone.
I didn't like Darnold last year in the draft as a Pac-12 guy and I like him even less this year. Could I be wrong yes sure I guess Darnold could get better, but I don't think he will ever be more than a turnover prone average QB. We know for a fact Barkley is going to be a stud every year in running and receiving the ball. Not sure how anyone could make that trade.
Physically, I agree with you. It’s the mental aspect of the game that takes time. Rosen is a guy we would pick up with an eye toward 2020 and beyond, not to win this year. And Eli has always been a statue, that’s nothing new. He just had a good line until 2012 which kept him upright so he could make plays. Honestly, Eli has no impact on Rosen being here. If the Giants want Rosen they’ll go get him. Eli has one year left on his deal.
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perfect prospect to fall into their lap at QB. Here’s the issue, they don’t exist. You have to take chances, and right now this front office would rather play it safe and be cool with 5-8 win seasons then actually do something to ignite a little fire into this team. Nothing is safer and more predictable than trotting out Eli again.
Everyone says “oh he’ll play better with a better OL.” Yeah, no shit. As would every other QB. But the pocket isn’t going to be clean on every single play. Injuries happen. Shit happens. Trotting him out there again solves absolutely nothing. We know what’s eli is at this point in his career.
Would you trade Barkley for Sam Darnold right now? I wouldn't.
Without thinking twice. And the Jets would laugh before hanging up the phone.
Darnold is not good. You very over rate him.
That's a part of it, sure. But there's a good 4 or 5 teams who could be in the mix for him. The longer you wait, the less likely you are to get him. Its a game, one you can lose if you wait too long.
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Good way to identify the wrong types of players.
Even if they answer correctly it is still a major distraction for the team and the player. Every bad throw, every loss, everything... You have never heard QB controversy and woohoo in the same sentence. It almost always makes for losing seasons and unrest.
Well, they should familiar with both.
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perfect prospect to fall into their lap at QB. Here’s the issue, they don’t exist. You have to take chances, and right now this front office would rather play it safe and be cool with 5-8 win seasons then actually do something to ignite a little fire into this team. Nothing is safer and more predictable than trotting out Eli again.
Everyone says “oh he’ll play better with a better OL.” Yeah, no shit. As would every other QB. But the pocket isn’t going to be clean on every single play. Injuries happen. Shit happens. Trotting him out there again solves absolutely nothing. We know what’s eli is at this point in his career.
Would you trade Barkley for Sam Darnold right now? I wouldn't.
Without thinking twice. And the Jets would laugh before hanging up the phone.
I wouldnt.
I would take Barkley and Rosen over Darnold and whoever our 2nd round pick this year would be.
Agree with this. Why would the Cards trade him a minute before they have to? They can wait for a first and hope someone gets scared and offers it. I don't think its because every team in the league has serious doubts about Rosen.
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QB controversy thing makes Eli look like such a pansy. He can't handle Rosen behind him? Too many reporters asking questions? Give me a break if true. DG and Shurmur have to treat Eli like man, he can handle it.
Another person who doesn't get it. QB controversies isn't just about the QB. You really think Eli can't handle it... come on man. The problem is the NY Media. Every question to all the players is going to be about Eli and Rosen. It isn't the Eli that would be an issue it would affect their whole team.
Dude learn to read. I said DG and Shurmur have to understand Eli can handle it. I know Eli can. And if they truly believe in Eli's play, where is the controversy? They are winning right? Eli's playing well right?
Gettleman is good with the press, I don’t see him being worried about their opinions and questions. I mean what is the controversy? Eli is 38 and in the last year of his deal. It’s not like he is 32 and has three years left on his contract. If they draft a guy or trade for Rosen, Eli knows the deal. I wouldn’t be surprised if he already told the team this is his last season.
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QB controversy thing makes Eli look like such a pansy. He can't handle Rosen behind him? Too many reporters asking questions? Give me a break if true. DG and Shurmur have to treat Eli like man, he can handle it.
Reading into whats been posted here thus far, this has nothing to do with Eli or his ferlings. Seems more like they would be worried about a controversy hanging over their heads from a fan standooint. With each bad game you'll see more and more fans calling for Rosen to start
so don't have a lot of bad games?
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QB controversy thing makes Eli look like such a pansy. He can't handle Rosen behind him? Too many reporters asking questions? Give me a break if true. DG and Shurmur have to treat Eli like man, he can handle it.
Another person who doesn't get it. QB controversies isn't just about the QB. You really think Eli can't handle it... come on man. The problem is the NY Media. Every question to all the players is going to be about Eli and Rosen. It isn't the Eli that would be an issue it would affect their whole team.
Dude learn to read. I said DG and Shurmur have to understand Eli can handle it. I know Eli can. And if they truly believe in Eli's play, where is the controversy? They are winning right? Eli's playing well right?
But again you focus on Eli... Eli wouldn't be the problem with a controversy. The rest of the team and the media focus and the fans would be the issue. Things like that rip teams apart. Look at Tampa Bay last year with Ryan Fitz and Winston. Look who picks in front of us this year.
Everyone says “oh he’ll play better with a better OL.” Yeah, no shit. As would every other QB. But the pocket isn’t going to be clean on every single play. Injuries happen. Shit happens. Trotting him out there again solves absolutely nothing. We know what’s eli is at this point in his career.
This is my concern as well. It's like they are waiting for an Andrew Luck type of QB to be available but if there is they better have the #1 overall pick because there will be a lot of teams trying to get that pick.
---> Simply put, if Rosen is our best option and we can get him at a good value...do it.
We can't hold the franchise back because of a potential QB controversy. Even Eli has to understand this.
If Shurmur is the guy, he needs to manage this accordingly.
This isn't right...
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All anti-Eli guys don't get. They think Eli can still play, in fairness so do I, they don't want QB controversy. Here's why? They want to win next year and think they can. Most here don't agree but the aim is to prove many wrong. Either way that's there thinking and it won't change
You hit the nail on the head. Low risk high reward move. No brainer to me.
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QB controversy thing makes Eli look like such a pansy. He can't handle Rosen behind him? Too many reporters asking questions? Give me a break if true. DG and Shurmur have to treat Eli like man, he can handle it.
Another person who doesn't get it. QB controversies isn't just about the QB. You really think Eli can't handle it... come on man. The problem is the NY Media. Every question to all the players is going to be about Eli and Rosen. It isn't the Eli that would be an issue it would affect their whole team.
Dude learn to read. I said DG and Shurmur have to understand Eli can handle it. I know Eli can. And if they truly believe in Eli's play, where is the controversy? They are winning right? Eli's playing well right?
But again you focus on Eli... Eli wouldn't be the problem with a controversy. The rest of the team and the media focus and the fans would be the issue. Things like that rip teams apart. Look at Tampa Bay last year with Ryan Fitz and Winston. Look who picks in front of us this year.
Totally different situation. Fans were excited about Fitz because he was winning some games for them. Winston sucks, he’s a turnover machine that hasn’t won jack shit. He also has character issues such as touching female Uber drivers. Eli Manning is a guy who has won 2 Super Bowls, is about as high character as you can get, and is 38 years old. Everyone expects him to retire soon so it would not be unusual to have his successor waiting in the wings for a year.
As for the Eli thing, and the Giants winning now. John Mara has always been very clear. He will never abide by "tanking" or trying to lose on purpose. The Jets did this a couple of years ago when they stripped it all down and got Darnold. The Dolphins are doing it now. Now, that's not to say they won't miscalculate and put a team out there that sucks and/or implodes (2017).
Eli is Eli. He's a guy who will put up numbers that show he's at best a middle of the pack statistical QB (as I showed in the other thread). Eli can get hot and win if the team is better around him. Eli is also the same guy who will throw a dumbshit end zone pick in year 15 that you would expect to see out of a rookie. And Eli is a money player if you can get him to the playoffs or with something to play for late. 2011 was the template. But when your team is starting 0-4 or 0-5 over the past few seasons, forget it.
I like to define myself as an Eli realist. I think you can win with Eli when the team is built up around him. The Giants feel the same. But Eli is 38. The Giants are building up a roster to really make a run for it in 2020 while trying to get into the playoffs in 2019. My preference is to have his heir apparent under him in 2019 to learn and be ready to take that next step to put the Giants in position to win over the next 5 year window with a new core. And I'm fine with the Giants placing a value on Rosen. I agree, don't use a first rounder to trade for him. And I'd like to not use the 2nd. A 3rd rounder for him seems to be something the Giants should jump at if it comes to pass. But if the Giants aren't going to get him at all to avoid a QB controversy is mind numbing. This team has so many holes that I"d rather give a 3rd to the Cards for Rosen than burn a 1st or 2nd for Jones to have him sit on the bench to learn from Eli when they can fill out the roster with better talent and see that Jones is no great shakes.
As for the Eli thing, and the Giants winning now. John Mara has always been very clear. He will never abide by "tanking" or trying to lose on purpose. The Jets did this a couple of years ago when they stripped it all down and got Darnold. The Dolphins are doing it now. Now, that's not to say they won't miscalculate and put a team out there that sucks and/or implodes (2017).
Eli is Eli. He's a guy who will put up numbers that show he's at best a middle of the pack statistical QB (as I showed in the other thread). Eli can get hot and win if the team is better around him. Eli is also the same guy who will throw a dumbshit end zone pick in year 15 that you would expect to see out of a rookie. And Eli is a money player if you can get him to the playoffs or with something to play for late. 2011 was the template. But when your team is starting 0-4 or 0-5 over the past few seasons, forget it.
I like to define myself as an Eli realist. I think you can win with Eli when the team is built up around him. The Giants feel the same. But Eli is 38. The Giants are building up a roster to really make a run for it in 2020 while trying to get into the playoffs in 2019. My preference is to have his heir apparent under him in 2019 to learn and be ready to take that next step to put the Giants in position to win over the next 5 year window with a new core. And I'm fine with the Giants placing a value on Rosen. I agree, don't use a first rounder to trade for him. And I'd like to not use the 2nd. A 3rd rounder for him seems to be something the Giants should jump at if it comes to pass. But if the Giants aren't going to get him at all to avoid a QB controversy is mind numbing. This team has so many holes that I"d rather give a 3rd to the Cards for Rosen than burn a 1st or 2nd for Jones to have him sit on the bench to learn from Eli when they can fill out the roster with better talent and see that Jones is no great shakes.
Good post Matt, I agree with you.
They weathered the TC crap in 2006, Shockey before that until it became untenable, the Plax situation, the rehiring of Parcells fan angst in the ‘90s and more. This would be a day at the office for them, imo.
We can differ here of course. I just don’t think it would be an issue they couldn’t handle, not that they would look forward to it
That's more a matter of opinion than anything. if any player on this roster not named Eli Manning actively chose to sit down rather than only play a limited amount of time, fans would be furious.
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QB controversy thing makes Eli look like such a pansy. He can't handle Rosen behind him? Too many reporters asking questions? Give me a break if true. DG and Shurmur have to treat Eli like man, he can handle it.
Another person who doesn't get it. QB controversies isn't just about the QB. You really think Eli can't handle it... come on man. The problem is the NY Media. Every question to all the players is going to be about Eli and Rosen. It isn't the Eli that would be an issue it would affect their whole team.
Dude learn to read. I said DG and Shurmur have to understand Eli can handle it. I know Eli can. And if they truly believe in Eli's play, where is the controversy? They are winning right? Eli's playing well right?
But again you focus on Eli... Eli wouldn't be the problem with a controversy. The rest of the team and the media focus and the fans would be the issue. Things like that rip teams apart. Look at Tampa Bay last year with Ryan Fitz and Winston. Look who picks in front of us this year.
Totally different situation. Fans were excited about Fitz because he was winning some games for them. Winston sucks, he’s a turnover machine that hasn’t won jack shit. He also has character issues such as touching female Uber drivers. Eli Manning is a guy who has won 2 Super Bowls, is about as high character as you can get, and is 38 years old. Everyone expects him to retire soon so it would not be unusual to have his successor waiting in the wings for a year.
Fans and Media now are trying to run him out of NY. You think adding Rosen won't turn that volume to 11?
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he can handle the controversy as he handled the Pats. He never complained about his benching per se, just that he didn’t want to be pulled after starting the first half. He preferred to not start at all under that circumstance. If that’s a controversy, have at it..
That's more a matter of opinion than anything. if any player on this roster not named Eli Manning actively chose to sit down rather than only play a limited amount of time, fans would be furious.
I would sit down too if the plan was to start Geno Smith in front of me. And if I remember correctly, Eli wasn’t pouting about it. He was actually saying it wouldn’t be fair to Geno to tell him he can only play half a game. Give him the whole game if you are going to start him.
During Free Agency, we have seen 7 or 8 backup quarterbacks switch teams.
Yet before Free Agency even started, the Giants announced that they had signed Alex Tanney to a 2 year extension (basically taking them out of the Free Agent backup quarterback market).
What does Shurmur and the Giants Front Office think of Tanney. What is his upside?
If they trade for Rosen, Eli needs to either retire or be cut. If they want to keep Eli for 2019 because they have no other option, fine. But the second they have another option he should be gone.
Fair enough.
Best case scenario - everything falls into place and Eli plays well. What do you think the realistic ceiling is for this team next year? Probably an unfair question to ask with a few free agents still to sign and hopefully 2-3 impact players in the draft but if you are willing - what is the best this team could do?
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he can handle the controversy as he handled the Pats. He never complained about his benching per se, just that he didn’t want to be pulled after starting the first half. He preferred to not start at all under that circumstance. If that’s a controversy, have at it..
That's more a matter of opinion than anything. if any player on this roster not named Eli Manning actively chose to sit down rather than only play a limited amount of time, fans would be furious.
So? It was Eli Manning, who, like LT and some others has standing and rightfully so. Nowhere was it said or implied that he would sit out of or boycott the game. He would have played if so ordered to. The proposal was made about half time removal and he preferred in its stead not to play at all if he DIDN’T HAVE TO, which the Giants were ok with. Never did he say he wouldn’t play no matter what
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QB controversy thing makes Eli look like such a pansy. He can't handle Rosen behind him? Too many reporters asking questions? Give me a break if true. DG and Shurmur have to treat Eli like man, he can handle it.
Another person who doesn't get it. QB controversies isn't just about the QB. You really think Eli can't handle it... come on man. The problem is the NY Media. Every question to all the players is going to be about Eli and Rosen. It isn't the Eli that would be an issue it would affect their whole team.
Dude learn to read. I said DG and Shurmur have to understand Eli can handle it. I know Eli can. And if they truly believe in Eli's play, where is the controversy? They are winning right? Eli's playing well right?
But again you focus on Eli... Eli wouldn't be the problem with a controversy. The rest of the team and the media focus and the fans would be the issue. Things like that rip teams apart. Look at Tampa Bay last year with Ryan Fitz and Winston. Look who picks in front of us this year.
Totally different situation. Fans were excited about Fitz because he was winning some games for them. Winston sucks, he’s a turnover machine that hasn’t won jack shit. He also has character issues such as touching female Uber drivers. Eli Manning is a guy who has won 2 Super Bowls, is about as high character as you can get, and is 38 years old. Everyone expects him to retire soon so it would not be unusual to have his successor waiting in the wings for a year.
Fans and Media now are trying to run him out of NY. You think adding Rosen won't turn that volume to 11?
There is a super simple way to turn that volume down, start winning some games
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QB controversy thing makes Eli look like such a pansy. He can't handle Rosen behind him? Too many reporters asking questions? Give me a break if true. DG and Shurmur have to treat Eli like man, he can handle it.
Another person who doesn't get it. QB controversies isn't just about the QB. You really think Eli can't handle it... come on man. The problem is the NY Media. Every question to all the players is going to be about Eli and Rosen. It isn't the Eli that would be an issue it would affect their whole team.
Dude learn to read. I said DG and Shurmur have to understand Eli can handle it. I know Eli can. And if they truly believe in Eli's play, where is the controversy? They are winning right? Eli's playing well right?
But again you focus on Eli... Eli wouldn't be the problem with a controversy. The rest of the team and the media focus and the fans would be the issue. Things like that rip teams apart. Look at Tampa Bay last year with Ryan Fitz and Winston. Look who picks in front of us this year.
Totally different situation. Fans were excited about Fitz because he was winning some games for them. Winston sucks, he’s a turnover machine that hasn’t won jack shit. He also has character issues such as touching female Uber drivers. Eli Manning is a guy who has won 2 Super Bowls, is about as high character as you can get, and is 38 years old. Everyone expects him to retire soon so it would not be unusual to have his successor waiting in the wings for a year.
Fans and Media now are trying to run him out of NY. You think adding Rosen won't turn that volume to 11?
There is a super simple way to turn that volume down, start winning some games
Easier said than done. Eli played well enough to win more games than we did last year and the Def was garbage.
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see Hard Knocks. Many teams don't want the added distraction, its very real. Now imagine that for a full season and then some. Its a legitimate concern.
They weathered the TC crap in 2006, Shockey before that until it became untenable, the Plax situation, the rehiring of Parcells fan angst in the ‘90s and more. This would be a day at the office for them, imo.
We can differ here of course. I just don’t think it would be an issue they couldn’t handle, not that they would look forward to it
No point of arguing this, but if you think Eli's storied career coming to a potential end every single week during the season is just a day in the office, than I think you are selling it way short. The Giants clearly don't want this to happen, so how can you say it won't bother them?
John Mara cares about what's being said about the Giants. Its a fact. The coaches had a circus going on here for the last couple years and we stunk, that's a fact. Throw in this, I'm guessing they will at the very least, be less focused than they could be without the noise. Don't know what else to say about it.
Again... It isn't Eli... It affects the rest of the team more because the Media will ask nonstop questions about it.
It is funny because I would trade for Rosen if it was a 3rd rounder and some change next year. However that doesn't mean it will affect and mess up our team this year. QB controversies are rarely a good thing.
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he can handle the controversy as he handled the Pats. He never complained about his benching per se, just that he didn’t want to be pulled after starting the first half. He preferred to not start at all under that circumstance. If that’s a controversy, have at it..
That's more a matter of opinion than anything. if any player on this roster not named Eli Manning actively chose to sit down rather than only play a limited amount of time, fans would be furious.
So? It was Eli Manning, who, like LT and some others has standing and rightfully so. Nowhere was it said or implied that he would sit out of or boycott the game. He would have played if so ordered to. The proposal was made about half time removal and he preferred in its stead not to play at all if he DIDN’T HAVE TO, which the Giants were ok with. Never did he say he wouldn’t play no matter what
They wanted him to play a half, he chose to play none. You really think the Giants wanted to have to deal with the story of him breaking his starts streak and the appearance of being benched?
Anyone who believes the Giants can contend next year needs to be fired immediately. It is going to blow up in their faces totally just like last year did. The Giants were worse than their record showed last year. And they traded their best player, have zero pass rush.
This organization is a total dumpster fire. How many more years does Eli have to be at best slightly below average before people realize he's done? He's 38. There's nothing wrong with being done at that age.
Eli is far from the only problem on this team. The rest of the roster sucks as well.
6 wins is their ceiling in 2019. I'd be surprised if they got to that number. A lot would have to go right for that to happen
I dont disagree, which is one of the reasons I am a proponent of Rosen this year. Have some cake and eat it too.
During Free Agency, we have seen 7 or 8 backup quarterbacks switch teams.
Yet before Free Agency even started, the Giants announced that they had signed Alex Tanney to a 2 year extension (basically taking them out of the Free Agent backup quarterback market).
What does Shurmur and the Giants Front Office think of Tanney. What is his upside?
Tanney's upside is that the fans won't be chanting his name when the Giants start out 0-6 and fall way behind in game #7.
The 49ers once traded for Steve Young to backup Montana for four years, but the Giants won't trade for 22 yr. old Rosen to sit behind 38 yr. old Eli because they don't want a QB controversy.
Un-f**king believable!
It's time to move on from Eli and admit what we already know, the roster sucks and they need to tear the entire thing down and rebuild.
The Giants winning anything in 2019 would be totally stunning. At best they are in the bottom 3-4 teams talent wise in the entire league.
Now, that being said, is there something to all these "rumors" about Rosen work ethic, family shit, etc...who knows. I don't know. But jt is making it sound like the guy has severe baggage that comes with him. All I know is he played every snap with the worst OL in football, didn't get hurt, and kept battling out there.
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During Free Agency, we have seen 7 or 8 backup quarterbacks switch teams.
Yet before Free Agency even started, the Giants announced that they had signed Alex Tanney to a 2 year extension (basically taking them out of the Free Agent backup quarterback market).
What does Shurmur and the Giants Front Office think of Tanney. What is his upside?
Tanney's upside is that the fans won't be chanting his name when the Giants start out 0-6 and fall way behind in game #7.
The 49ers once traded for Steve Young to backup Montana for four years, but the Giants won't trade for 22 yr. old Rosen to sit behind 38 yr. old Eli because they don't want a QB controversy.
Un-f**king believable!
Mara
If they win even 8 (or even 7) games they have zero shot at a top QB prospect next year. How does that work?
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perfect prospect to fall into their lap at QB. Here’s the issue, they don’t exist. You have to take chances, and right now this front office would rather play it safe and be cool with 5-8 win seasons then actually do something to ignite a little fire into this team. Nothing is safer and more predictable than trotting out Eli again.
Everyone says “oh he’ll play better with a better OL.” Yeah, no shit. As would every other QB. But the pocket isn’t going to be clean on every single play. Injuries happen. Shit happens. Trotting him out there again solves absolutely nothing. We know what’s eli is at this point in his career.
Would you trade Barkley for Sam Darnold right now? I wouldn't.
Without thinking twice. And the Jets would laugh before hanging up the phone.
That conversation from the Jets end would start with Barkley and both 2019 1st round picks and the 2020 1st round pick.
Actual picks, and not Engram because he was selected in the 1st round.
Because they believe once he passes a physical that he would be like any other guy coming off of an injury. Do all injured players never come back healthy? If not, why are they cleared?
Someone will be signing Remmers.
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All anti-Eli guys don't get. They think Eli can still play, in fairness so do I, they don't want QB controversy. Here's why? They want to win next year and think they can. Most here don't agree but the aim is to prove many wrong. Either way that's there thinking and it won't change
If that is true, then you bring in whoever you want because Eli will outplay them. Then the other guy sits. No controversy. Promising the job to someone means they think they could have someone better on the roster, but they will let Eli play anyway.
If they won't commit to bringing in competition and starting whoever wins that competition, then they are not seriously trying to win.