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Anyone else more excited about our 37th vs 6th selection?

M.S. : 4/11/2019 6:17 am
There's a pretty strong consensus about who will be off the Board by the time of our first Draft selection at #6. It's a real good bet Kyler Murray and Nick Bosa will be gone, and Josh Allen and Quinnen Williams most likely as well.

But after the first round is over and all the teams go to bed, the remaining players have to be re-ranked and there will be several highly desirable players bunched together at the beginning of Day 2. At which point, we all have our personal favorites and there's a good chance several of them will be there at 37.

IMO, watching the 33rd through 36th selections will be the most exciting moment in the entire Draft.

I can see us trading up into the bottom of the first if someone is  
robbieballs2003 : 4/11/2019 6:25 am : link
dropping to gain that extra year of control.
And it might be too expensive to trade with Seattle  
robbieballs2003 : 4/11/2019 6:26 am : link
But they want more picks.
Those 3 picks are vital for the Giants  
George from PA : 4/11/2019 6:47 am : link
It would be great and needed to get contributors after the 95th pick....but that is a crap shoot, to be honest.

But those 3 must be starters, major contributors...or future franchise QB.
The talent at the top of round 2 is just as good as middle of round 1  
Rjanyg : 4/11/2019 7:14 am : link
If we aren’t trading for Rosen I would very much like Dalton Risner to be there.
It's hard not to get excited about the top picks.  
Klaatu : 4/11/2019 7:22 am : link
The guys with the most hype, the ones expected to contribute right away. But I'm more interested in the Day 3 guys, the underdogs, the afterthoughts (and that goes for UDFA's, too). This is an area where a really good GM can make his bones.
No  
Big Blue '56 : 4/11/2019 7:27 am : link
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RE: The talent at the top of round 2 is just as good as middle of round 1  
BlueLou'sBack : 4/11/2019 7:30 am : link
In comment 14381993 Rjanyg said:
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If we aren’t trading for Rosen I would very much like Dalton Risner to be there.


The first thing you said about the talent pool being very level from about the middle of the first round through the middle of the 2nd seems correct. And even less so than most years, there's little agreement about how the draft order will likely proceed from 15 to 40. Cody Ford could drop to 37, so could Ferrell or Lawrence or Burns or one of the top WRS or CBs.

It will be interesting to see where Simmons goes, a top 5-10 guy if healthy. It will be interesting to see if the Giants double up on the DL for 2 of their 3 top picks, there's so many quality DL available in this draft.
RE: The talent at the top of round 2 is just as good as middle of round 1  
BlueLou'sBack : 4/11/2019 7:31 am : link
In comment 14381993 Rjanyg said:
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If we aren’t trading for Rosen I would very much like Dalton Risner to be there.


The first thing you said about the talent pool being very level from about the middle of the first round through the middle of the 2nd seems correct. And even less so than most years, there's little agreement about how the draft order will likely proceed from 15 to 40. Cody Ford could drop to 37, so could Ferrell or Lawrence or Burns or one of the top WRS or CBs.

It will be interesting to see where Simmons goes, a top 5-10 guy if healthy. It will be interesting to see if the Giants double up on the DL for 2 of their 3 top picks, there's so many quality DL available in this draft.
The argument about the talent in rd2 being same as middle of RD 1  
jvm52106 : 4/11/2019 7:45 am : link
is not exactly true. The whole point of the draft is finding the guy YOU think is the best choice for your team. We all here come up with our lists and our wants, based on other peoples lists but in reality, none of us knows what NFL teams think. We hear this guy or that guy is rising or falling but in reality that is only with media types. NFL teams know which players they think are top tier, which are not and those in the middle that depending on where in the draft they are picking said player might go for them.

Eric (BBI) made a good point about a "surprise" pick the Giants had way back in the 90's when they grabbed Thomas Lewis WR in the first rd. Mel Kiper had him rated 22nd, at the WR position... The Giants took him in the first 32 picks period! Now, the point isn't whether he should or should not have been drafted there, the point is the Giants had Lewis rated well above other WR's and players and took him in RD 1.

So, the draft this year seems like it has a lot of good players and only a few STAND OUTS. We shall see how it shakes out but to me 6 and 17 are way way more important as those spots guarantee we get 2 players in our TOP 17 (Giants top 17).
If we have a 37th selection  
UberAlias : 4/11/2019 8:06 am : link
That is.
Could be gone  
ZogZerg : 4/11/2019 8:11 am : link
by the end of day 1 ;)
I have a feeling that they'll be some remote throwing.  
Blue21 : 4/11/2019 8:15 am : link
Maybe a lot of it by the sounds of BBI. I don't recall this much anxiety by BBI before a draft.
RE: The argument about the talent in rd2 being same as middle of RD 1  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/11/2019 8:25 am : link
In comment 14382015 jvm52106 said:
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is not exactly true. The whole point of the draft is finding the guy YOU think is the best choice for your team. We all here come up with our lists and our wants, based on other peoples lists but in reality, none of us knows what NFL teams think. We hear this guy or that guy is rising or falling but in reality that is only with media types. NFL teams know which players they think are top tier, which are not and those in the middle that depending on where in the draft they are picking said player might go for them.

Eric (BBI) made a good point about a "surprise" pick the Giants had way back in the 90's when they grabbed Thomas Lewis WR in the first rd. Mel Kiper had him rated 22nd, at the WR position... The Giants took him in the first 32 picks period! Now, the point isn't whether he should or should not have been drafted there, the point is the Giants had Lewis rated well above other WR's and players and took him in RD 1.

So, the draft this year seems like it has a lot of good players and only a few STAND OUTS. We shall see how it shakes out but to me 6 and 17 are way way more important as those spots guarantee we get 2 players in our TOP 17 (Giants top 17).


Eric had a great line. Something like, "The Giants picked a guy I didn't even have on any lists".

And we took him in the first round!!
deviation from the commonly expected  
fkap : 4/11/2019 8:43 am : link
order at the top of round one is far more exciting, IMO. Folks are expecting a very limited number of scripts to be read, and any unexpected development is HUGE and upsets the apple cart. Things rarely go as scripted so the hope of something whacked happening, thus benefiting the Giants is higher, and if it actually happens, the HOLY SHIT is bigger. on the flip side, the potential of the Giants pick being a WTF is higher.

At the top of round 2, there are a far greater set of scenarios, and a far greater number of picks which would be acceptable in your book. While it might be more fun predicting what course will play out, the anticipation of things going off script isn't there.
Actually, I’m Excited About 17th Overall  
Trainmaster : 4/11/2019 8:56 am : link
If we stay put, maybe a top 10 talent drops to 17.

If we need to trade up from 17 (after staying put at 7 and taking BPA), we could position ourselves to jump ahead of a few teams to grab the BPA in a need position. I think if the Giants go QB in this draft, it will be via a trade up from 17.
RE: RE: The argument about the talent in rd2 being same as middle of RD 1  
Bill L : 4/11/2019 8:59 am : link
In comment 14382049 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14382015 jvm52106 said:


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is not exactly true. The whole point of the draft is finding the guy YOU think is the best choice for your team. We all here come up with our lists and our wants, based on other peoples lists but in reality, none of us knows what NFL teams think. We hear this guy or that guy is rising or falling but in reality that is only with media types. NFL teams know which players they think are top tier, which are not and those in the middle that depending on where in the draft they are picking said player might go for them.

Eric (BBI) made a good point about a "surprise" pick the Giants had way back in the 90's when they grabbed Thomas Lewis WR in the first rd. Mel Kiper had him rated 22nd, at the WR position... The Giants took him in the first 32 picks period! Now, the point isn't whether he should or should not have been drafted there, the point is the Giants had Lewis rated well above other WR's and players and took him in RD 1.

So, the draft this year seems like it has a lot of good players and only a few STAND OUTS. We shall see how it shakes out but to me 6 and 17 are way way more important as those spots guarantee we get 2 players in our TOP 17 (Giants top 17).



Eric had a great line. Something like, "The Giants picked a guy I didn't even have on any lists".

And we took him in the first round!!


I know it was a stunner to everyone.

Wasn't he the guy who tripped over a yard line in a Philly game?
RE: RE: The argument about the talent in rd2 being same as middle of RD 1  
M.S. : 4/11/2019 9:14 am : link
In comment 14382049 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 14382015 jvm52106 said:


Quote:


is not exactly true. The whole point of the draft is finding the guy YOU think is the best choice for your team. We all here come up with our lists and our wants, based on other peoples lists but in reality, none of us knows what NFL teams think. We hear this guy or that guy is rising or falling but in reality that is only with media types. NFL teams know which players they think are top tier, which are not and those in the middle that depending on where in the draft they are picking said player might go for them.

Eric (BBI) made a good point about a "surprise" pick the Giants had way back in the 90's when they grabbed Thomas Lewis WR in the first rd. Mel Kiper had him rated 22nd, at the WR position... The Giants took him in the first 32 picks period! Now, the point isn't whether he should or should not have been drafted there, the point is the Giants had Lewis rated well above other WR's and players and took him in RD 1.

So, the draft this year seems like it has a lot of good players and only a few STAND OUTS. We shall see how it shakes out but to me 6 and 17 are way way more important as those spots guarantee we get 2 players in our TOP 17 (Giants top 17).



Eric had a great line. Something like, "The Giants picked a guy I didn't even have on any lists".

And we took him in the first round!!


Ugh... I was at the Marriott Marquis in NYC on the last day of the 1994 Draft sitting in the balcony. Right below me was Mel Kiper and on a commercial break I asked him, "How are Thomas Lewis' hands... can he catch the ball?" He chuckled and then said something to the effect, "Yea, he can catch, I think."
Lewis was one of those picks where you wonder if the Giants  
Ivan15 : 4/11/2019 5:14 pm : link
Got confused with another guy named Lewis.
Thomas Lewis: the worst pick of my lifetime  
Vanzetti : 4/11/2019 6:24 pm : link
Especially since the Giants picked him in the first after reading a report in USA Today that the 49ers were interested in him.

Trading up for Sinorice Moss and drafting Cedric Jones without realizing he was blind in one eye are close. But nothing beats Thomas Lewis.
OP: M.S.  
Percy : 4/12/2019 11:39 pm : link
To your question, I agree. Hard to keep up with who is what in this draft in the early rounds anyway for someone not in it professionally, but this surely is where the rubber meets the road.
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