There's a pretty strong consensus about who will be off the Board by the time of our first Draft selection at #6. It's a real good bet Kyler Murray and Nick Bosa will be gone, and Josh Allen and Quinnen Williams most likely as well.
But after the first round is over and all the teams go to bed, the remaining players have to be re-ranked and there will be several highly desirable players bunched together at the beginning of Day 2. At which point, we all have our personal favorites and there's a good chance several of them will be there at 37.
IMO, watching the 33rd through 36th selections will be the most exciting moment in the entire Draft.
But those 3 must be starters, major contributors...or future franchise QB.
The first thing you said about the talent pool being very level from about the middle of the first round through the middle of the 2nd seems correct. And even less so than most years, there's little agreement about how the draft order will likely proceed from 15 to 40. Cody Ford could drop to 37, so could Ferrell or Lawrence or Burns or one of the top WRS or CBs.
It will be interesting to see where Simmons goes, a top 5-10 guy if healthy. It will be interesting to see if the Giants double up on the DL for 2 of their 3 top picks, there's so many quality DL available in this draft.
The first thing you said about the talent pool being very level from about the middle of the first round through the middle of the 2nd seems correct. And even less so than most years, there's little agreement about how the draft order will likely proceed from 15 to 40. Cody Ford could drop to 37, so could Ferrell or Lawrence or Burns or one of the top WRS or CBs.
It will be interesting to see where Simmons goes, a top 5-10 guy if healthy. It will be interesting to see if the Giants double up on the DL for 2 of their 3 top picks, there's so many quality DL available in this draft.
Eric (BBI) made a good point about a "surprise" pick the Giants had way back in the 90's when they grabbed Thomas Lewis WR in the first rd. Mel Kiper had him rated 22nd, at the WR position... The Giants took him in the first 32 picks period! Now, the point isn't whether he should or should not have been drafted there, the point is the Giants had Lewis rated well above other WR's and players and took him in RD 1.
So, the draft this year seems like it has a lot of good players and only a few STAND OUTS. We shall see how it shakes out but to me 6 and 17 are way way more important as those spots guarantee we get 2 players in our TOP 17 (Giants top 17).
Eric (BBI) made a good point about a "surprise" pick the Giants had way back in the 90's when they grabbed Thomas Lewis WR in the first rd. Mel Kiper had him rated 22nd, at the WR position... The Giants took him in the first 32 picks period! Now, the point isn't whether he should or should not have been drafted there, the point is the Giants had Lewis rated well above other WR's and players and took him in RD 1.
So, the draft this year seems like it has a lot of good players and only a few STAND OUTS. We shall see how it shakes out but to me 6 and 17 are way way more important as those spots guarantee we get 2 players in our TOP 17 (Giants top 17).
Eric had a great line. Something like, "The Giants picked a guy I didn't even have on any lists".
And we took him in the first round!!
At the top of round 2, there are a far greater set of scenarios, and a far greater number of picks which would be acceptable in your book. While it might be more fun predicting what course will play out, the anticipation of things going off script isn't there.
If we need to trade up from 17 (after staying put at 7 and taking BPA), we could position ourselves to jump ahead of a few teams to grab the BPA in a need position. I think if the Giants go QB in this draft, it will be via a trade up from 17.
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is not exactly true. The whole point of the draft is finding the guy YOU think is the best choice for your team. We all here come up with our lists and our wants, based on other peoples lists but in reality, none of us knows what NFL teams think. We hear this guy or that guy is rising or falling but in reality that is only with media types. NFL teams know which players they think are top tier, which are not and those in the middle that depending on where in the draft they are picking said player might go for them.
Eric (BBI) made a good point about a "surprise" pick the Giants had way back in the 90's when they grabbed Thomas Lewis WR in the first rd. Mel Kiper had him rated 22nd, at the WR position... The Giants took him in the first 32 picks period! Now, the point isn't whether he should or should not have been drafted there, the point is the Giants had Lewis rated well above other WR's and players and took him in RD 1.
So, the draft this year seems like it has a lot of good players and only a few STAND OUTS. We shall see how it shakes out but to me 6 and 17 are way way more important as those spots guarantee we get 2 players in our TOP 17 (Giants top 17).
Eric had a great line. Something like, "The Giants picked a guy I didn't even have on any lists".
And we took him in the first round!!
I know it was a stunner to everyone.
Wasn't he the guy who tripped over a yard line in a Philly game?
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is not exactly true. The whole point of the draft is finding the guy YOU think is the best choice for your team. We all here come up with our lists and our wants, based on other peoples lists but in reality, none of us knows what NFL teams think. We hear this guy or that guy is rising or falling but in reality that is only with media types. NFL teams know which players they think are top tier, which are not and those in the middle that depending on where in the draft they are picking said player might go for them.
Eric (BBI) made a good point about a "surprise" pick the Giants had way back in the 90's when they grabbed Thomas Lewis WR in the first rd. Mel Kiper had him rated 22nd, at the WR position... The Giants took him in the first 32 picks period! Now, the point isn't whether he should or should not have been drafted there, the point is the Giants had Lewis rated well above other WR's and players and took him in RD 1.
So, the draft this year seems like it has a lot of good players and only a few STAND OUTS. We shall see how it shakes out but to me 6 and 17 are way way more important as those spots guarantee we get 2 players in our TOP 17 (Giants top 17).
Eric had a great line. Something like, "The Giants picked a guy I didn't even have on any lists".
And we took him in the first round!!
Ugh... I was at the Marriott Marquis in NYC on the last day of the 1994 Draft sitting in the balcony. Right below me was Mel Kiper and on a commercial break I asked him, "How are Thomas Lewis' hands... can he catch the ball?" He chuckled and then said something to the effect, "Yea, he can catch, I think."
Trading up for Sinorice Moss and drafting Cedric Jones without realizing he was blind in one eye are close. But nothing beats Thomas Lewis.