So I know you draft the player and not the position… And I know the Giants have needs all over the roster… That being said, the general consensus is that EDGE/CB/OT/QB are the most glaring needs heading into the Draft… And the talent level at these four spots falls off pretty significantly between #37 and #95.
So my question is which position does BBI feel most comfortable addressing a bit later in the draft? And which position do you think Gettleman lets slide until late Day 2 / Day 3?
While I’m in the camp of “let’s wait on addressing QB until 2020,” I just get the feeling that we’re either taking Jones on Day 1 or trading #37 for Rosen (I would MUCH prefer the latter of the two options).
There are some great EDGE players but they are going to come off the board early and often. IMO, EDGE falls off pretty quickly between #17 and #37. So if I had to guess one of Sweat, Gary or Ferrell will be wearing an “ny” cap on 4/25.
CB is a glaring need, which for some reason the media doesn’t mention that often… And there just isn’t much there after the first 4-5 players, IMO. I have to think that Murphy would be in play at #17 as well as guys like Baker and Oruwariye at #37. After that it’s a cr*pshoot
OT is probably the deepest of the positions and I think this might be where Gettleman decides to wait. There might be a chance that a guy like Bobby Evans (who is very similar to Darryl Williams who DG drafted with CAR) or Michael Deiter is still around at #95. That being said, I would have a tough time watching us pass on a Williams or Dillard at #17. I think both are Day 1 starters on a revamped OL and eventual replacements for Nate Solder on the blind side.
And then the wildcard is if one of their higher rated big bodied WRs/TEs slides to them.
It’s going to be interesting to say the least… and Gettleman absolutely HAS to nail these first 3 picks.
I also wouldn't be shocked if they went with 2 front 7 players in those first 3 picks.
ILB might offer best value and is a need
DT might offer best value and is a need
there's a chance 2 or 3 of the four you mentioned don't get addressed in the early rounds
Guys like Evans (who I also really like), Chuma Edoga (if he falls), McGary, Scharping, Pipkins, Roemer.
Fwiw, I think Hyatt is a guard in the NFL. Doesn't have the feet or length for tackle.
Corner is also pretty deep and with 12 picks, we can afford to draft a few in mid rounds and see what shakes out.
I too am in the wait until 2020 on QB camp. Ideally I'd like to defense with 6,17 something like Williams, Bush.. Allen, Lawrence, etc. And get BPA at 37 between T, CB, WR and EDGE/DL (whatever we passed on in RD1).
CB and OT will both be missed. I suspect we will get a DE/DT, an EDGE and a QB based on the quality of players at those positions at the time of our picks..
OT, CB, WR and G/C will be in rds 3-7.
I can actually see the 1st 2 picks being defensive front 7 and then WR/CB/QB @ 37.
I think a RT can be had at #37. ER is clearly a strength of the draft and a real need, so it would be a shame if we didn't come up with one.
As I've argued elsewhere (and tried to raise to a greater level of discussion) I am more concerned about CB than even OL. The top talent sounds like it's thin. There may not be anyone left at 17 or 37 worthy of that pick and I wouldn't want to see a reach based on that need.
If Remmers really is all but a done deal, then I don't expect OL depth until the 3rd (or later). If he's not as close as the asshat(s) claim, then I think #17 or #37 will be an OT.
I also think at least 2 of the 3 picks will definitely be on defense. Beyond that though, I think they'll stick to their board and who they take will depend on who falls. If an EDGE guy they like drops to 17 (e.g. Sweat, Ferrell, etc), I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they grab him especially if #6 is QWill or Wilkins. Conversely, if they go OLB (Allen, Gray, Sweat, etc), I can certainly see them coming back at 17 and still taking a guy like Wilkins.
CB and ILB I think will also be in play for 17 and 37.
As for QB, I don't get the sense they're going that route other than if Jones is still around mid-20s and they can trade back up with #37+.
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Center
WR
OT
Edge
CB
QB
I don't see a Franchise QB in this draft, I'd trade for Rosen if a good deal is available... Presuming no new QB by training camp, I'd make sure a quality vet backup QB is on the roster this season.
As for QB, I'd be fine with not drafting one at all. Don't know how the Giants feel about that, though.
Taking a QB within the 2019 group is probably just wasting a pick. I do not see any gotta have talents.
On a roster that contains a healthy Dalvin Tomlinson, a claim that NT is the greatest need is uninformed and most likely ludicrous. I would avoid Dexter Lawrence because of this.
Yea. I mean, it’s probably a bad idea to have a succession plan in place for a declining - if not already finished - QB in his late 30s. Let’s ride Eli until he keels over on the field. That’s probably a smart way to handle the QB transition.
ILB might offer best value and is a need
DT might offer best value and is a need
there's a chance 2 or 3 of the four you mentioned don't get addressed in the early rounds
DT & WR I could see... Unless it's Devin White at #6, I would be pretty surprised by a LB before Day 3
WR is arguably the deepest position in this entire draft
I ve been assured you are mistaken.
17. ILB
37. NT
Or
6. DL
17. NT
37. ILB
Or
6. DL
17. DL
37. FS
Etc
17. NT
37. Center
This is correct. Get the best we can at RT in the draft now. CB? Looks like a crummy draft at that position. So ignore it. We have plenty of other holes. Edge; C; LB; FS (not very strong class in this either, but the need is there -- and it's not a costly position to fill compared to, say, CB); TE. DL star anywhere is worth a high pick. So is RT.
That typically works best in rds 4-7.
Here, with two 1s and high 2, value grades are huge. Look at barkely
And it just looks like those will be at DL through mid round 2 probably. And we do have need there ..so ..