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Quinnen Williams - trade up

TrueBlue56 : 4/13/2019 3:01 pm
I really like all of the reports on Williams and what he could bring to our defense. I also think Williams has a much higher grade than Sweat, Oliver, Gary or Burns.

Let's say hypothetically that the cardinals take Murray at 1. The 49ers take Bosa at 2. The jets tale Allen at 3.

The raiders are at 4. We could potentially trade our 6 for their 4 to move up plus swap our 17th overall pick for their 24th overall pick and either throw in next year's 3rd round pick or a 4th round pick this year.

If we can get williams and maybe get Dalton Risner at 24 that would be 2 legitimate starters plus our 2nd round pick

BJ Hill, Tomlinson and Williams would be a fast start to a solid defensive line and the cost might not be too bad.
Would be something if  
tyrik13 : 4/13/2019 3:11 pm : link
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if you put stock  
Giantsfan79 : 4/13/2019 3:18 pm : link
in what Dave-Te is hearing, the 49rs are in love with Williams and are going to take him at 2.
Hmmm  
RAIN : 4/13/2019 3:48 pm : link
I could see SF taking him... but apparently, they love Bosa too. Solomon Thomas didnt play well, they have Buckner, and Armstead ...Dee Ford as well. I think they could use some Rush from the outside. Bosa has been dominant for longer... has a similar grade.

I think they go with the blood line, and will be wary of what happened with Thomas, also giving him a chance.



there'll be someone worthy  
bc4life : 4/13/2019 3:56 pm : link
of # 6 besides Williams - don't trade up, no picks to spare
RE: there'll be someone worthy  
AcidTest : 4/13/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14385091 bc4life said:
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of # 6 besides Williams - don't trade up, no picks to spare


^This.
RE: there'll be someone worthy  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/13/2019 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14385091 bc4life said:
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of # 6 besides Williams - don't trade up, no picks to spare


Hate to break it to you buy its highly improbable that they draft 12 players.

I dont expect the trade ups will happen early though. Anywhere in rounds 3-5 trade ups are a strong possibility imo.
I would do that swap  
AcesUp : 4/13/2019 4:33 pm : link
Especially if they have QB on the brain with the second pick. If he's there at 17 he'll be there at 24.
Sign me up for this  
Dave on the UWS : 4/13/2019 6:59 pm : link
He will I suspect have a higher grade than guys like Gary or Sweat for example.
If I took an educated guess  
Giantz_comeback : 4/13/2019 10:11 pm : link
With all that we've heard and read from insiders etc

This guy is numero uno on our board and represents highest value for what he would mean for what Bettcher is trying to do with the defense.

The drop off to the next guy that could play multiple spots on the 3-4 DL is HUGE.

He wants guys that will command double teams , create rush lines for other blitzers and ideally especially picking at 6 , that guy should be able to generate great pass rush on his own.

Williams is that guy. Gary is not . He is a trap because he has all the physical measurables you want but you just dont see the pass rush ability there. When he wins he has won with HWS , there is little nuance and technique. He as another poster put it is the Erik Flowers of DEs. The Giants though they could coach him up. They were wrong.

You need to see more flashes on tape showing you he has the potential to grow exponentially as a pass rusher. You just didnt see it. His isolated pass rush grades when he rushed from end vs interior were horrible. Stay away.


lake george ok smart guy  
bc4life : 4/14/2019 8:00 am : link
they're going to move by giving up picks in the 4th round or later
Love this scenario, but  
stoneman : 4/14/2019 8:24 am : link
unfortunately, if the Gs have QW rated that much higher, then so does Oak and TB. The 17/24 swap is intriguing though if Oak were targeting several not QW 1st rounders. 4s/5s do not come into play for round one movement (unless its the Pats).
RE: Love this scenario, but  
Giantz_comeback : 4/14/2019 10:28 am : link
In comment 14385635 stoneman said:
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unfortunately, if the Gs have QW rated that much higher, then so does Oak and TB. The 17/24 swap is intriguing though if Oak were targeting several not QW 1st rounders. 4s/5s do not come into play for round one movement (unless its the Pats).


Stone yes and no. The other teams at the top seem to have a bigger need for an Edge rusher. Now if they have him as glaring BPA that's a different story, but if its close those teams could choose Bosa or Allen. Plus Jets have strong offers from 2 teams to trade down and apparently they want picks.
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