Our staff is having a heavy debate on the cornerback class, as I feel most are glorified safeties. Sure, Murphy excels in the press, Baker is know for his instincts & Williams is known for his ball-hawking ability. Rock Ya-Sin seems to be the flavor everyone likes, yet few give him first round love.
Okay, your homework. Whether at #17 or #37, if you were DG (do not look in the mirror, it will scare ya), help me settle a debate. What CBs ONLY, would you want at either pick. Not just names, play Perry Mason & state your case.
Thanks folks!
Their Back 4 is not great but I think there is no way they can draft a QB, fix the DL, get a stud LB, RT + depth, WR, TE ....hmmm IN ONE DRAFT!
Edavsiii says fix the front 7 and OL depth 1st!
I'd like to see them come out if this draft with a potential starter at CB.
I think Murphy and Williams could end up going in the top 10 when it gets down to it.
Baker will go in the next 10 and Rock will go in the third 10 that is to say #20 - #30.
That does not work out at all well for where the Jints pick and they really need to grab one of these guys imo
My next group is Lonnie Johnson, Isaiah Johnson and David Long
I can definitely see why some would characterize them as safety like
I would normally value them as third-round picks but because of the premium placed on corners (need trumping value) I expect that they all will likely go in the second round.
Third rounders will likely be from the group Mullen, Bunting, Love possibly Oruwariye and Layne
Fourth rounders - Jordan Brown, JJ Williams and Michael Jackson - another safety like group.
The thing is - Jints need guys like this and lots of them since their secondary depth is clearly the weakest part of the team imo.
I would have no problem taking whichever of the top three corners are still there at #17 and then dipping into the above pool for another in a subsequent round
Later on, I would seriously consider taking a guy like Sheldrick Redwine or Will Harris as a pure safety
But if the Jints are going to be serious about upgrading their D then they have to go all imo with regard to pass defending Lbs. This could be done by using their first choice, #6 on Devin White which would boost their speed all across the field.
Failing to take White early then they have to look at grabbing an Lb like Germaine Pratt with one of their fourth or fifth choices if he lasts that long.
Finding effective pass defending lbs is as difficult as finding pure cover corners. So I expect that the Jints brass will roll the dice on selecting additional safety like corners or effective pass defending safeties that can be moved into specialized dime packages.
I dont want a corner that wont tackle. And Peters gets beat deep a lot.
I have D.K. Metcalf as my top WR (by a razor thin margin) and Williams shut him down. He has to be in the right scheme, with that scheme being press-bail. He'll do fine here.
At #37, I'd be comfortable drafting DeAndre Baker. Perhaps the most consistent corner in this year's draft. Good tackler. Physical. Plays well in a press-man scheme despite the fact that he's kind of slow. Reminds me of some of those Legion of Boom corners they used to have in Seattle.
Joejuan Williams - Big dude. Tough press corner. He can play some zone as well. I don't think he'll ever be elite, but he should be a solid corner in the NFL.
David Long - Probably wouldn't take him at 37, but I wouldn't want to bet against him. He was so solid at Michigan. Tough player.
Out of these guys, I'd bet Joejuan Williams is a Giants type draft pick.
Lonnie is interesting too
Bettcher runs (or wants to) run A LOT of man to send pressure from EVERY level.
Greedy while the tackling is suspect is ridiculous in mirroring recievers. And he has a bunch of strong film vs quite a few WRs that will be playing on Sundays.
4.37 speed , decent height , and add a little more muscle. His fit and upside is sky high for Giants system.
Next guy on my list is David Long. 18 (or 22) completions vs 595 defensive snaps...are you kidding me? That's amazing.
The GMen have an enormous physicality deficiency in their front 7 and still holes in their OLINe.
The GMen should be trying to push for physicality on their defense. Greedy doesn't fit that bill. You can get a solid corner in Murphy or Baker in your scenario instead.
They both seem about equal. I'd take the one who has the higher ceiling. I don't know enough about that between these 2.
With all this said - I wouldnt take any cb with the Giants 1st 3 picks. In rd 3 GMEN can draft a cb and same in 4 and 5 and 6. You have options. You still have Jenkins as yoru starting cb and with all the picks you can go after others in later round seven if you dislike Beal immensely.
Because I think you can trade up from late rd 3 to early to mid rd 3 if you feel you have to-- I don't see a need to select a CB in rd 1 or 2 for GMEN for this particular team. .
I don’t know if they are the same size, I haven’t looked. But his game reminds me of the giants cb Terrell Thomas.
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Tape shows a guy who mirrors receivers with relative ease. He sticks to their hips better than Ive seen a CB do in a few years.
slated but he is a playmaker would he be a good
free safety ? We damn sure need one . Curtis Riley
was horrific .
Like Baker a lot I thik he is kinds like Mark Collins
one of my all time favorites great form tackler .