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NFT: Mets at Braves Game 3

ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 4:36 pm
Mets Lineup

Jeff McNeil – 2B
Pete Alonso – 1B
Michael Conforto – RF
J.D. Davis – 3B
Travis d’Arnaud – C
Keon Broxton - LF
Amed Rosario - SS
Juan Lagares – CF
Jason Vargas - LHP

Wow. Definitely one of the best chances the Braves are going to have at a win against us, maybe ever. lol. A Vargas start and Nimmo, Cano, and Ramos all out tonight. Broxton, Lagares, TDA, and JD Davis all in the same lineup. Oh well. I feel like tonight is house money anyway with deGrom going tomorrow. LGM!!

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If Gio is not selected by the Yanks  
CMicks3110 : 4/13/2019 8:44 pm : link
and excercises his opt out, you gotta jump on that
RE: This game is going to be a major  
steve in ky : 4/13/2019 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14385358 ZGiants98 said:
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chore to get through.


Yeah this is a grueling pace. My kids wanted us all to watch a movie tonight so I was hoping for a quick game. I guess I may have to DVR the rest and can finish it later.
RE: RE: This game is going to be a major  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2019 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14385366 steve in ky said:
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chore to get through.



Yeah this is a grueling pace. My kids wanted us all to watch a movie tonight so I was hoping for a quick game. I guess I may have to DVR the rest and can finish it later.


Colon might be pitching by the time you finish.
RE: RE: RE: This game is going to be a major  
steve in ky : 4/13/2019 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14385367 Eric on Li said:
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chore to get through.



Yeah this is a grueling pace. My kids wanted us all to watch a movie tonight so I was hoping for a quick game. I guess I may have to DVR the rest and can finish it later.



Colon might be pitching by the time you finish.


LOL
For those that wanted Gio for the  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 8:52 pm : link
5th spot (I was one of them) He has a 7 ERA in Scranton.
RE: Brodie made a mistake going with Vargas  
TyreeHelmet : 4/13/2019 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14385360 Vanzetti said:
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Also, Oswald obviously is not the answer. Might actually be worse than Vargas.
m

Agreed. I’m not even advocating to sign Kuechel. But how could you enter the season with Vargas if you really wanted to compete? He looks like he’s throwing BP.
Does Vargas get another start?  
CMicks3110 : 4/13/2019 8:53 pm : link
???
I don't see how you trot him out there  
CMicks3110 : 4/13/2019 8:53 pm : link
he needs to be DFA. It's almost a 80% chance you're going to lose. I don't even want him as a mop-up guy.
Marlins 10-0 over the Phillies  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 8:54 pm : link
For those looking at silver linings tonight. lol
Why not trade for Baumgartner  
Earl the goat : 4/13/2019 8:56 pm : link
12 million a year. Free agent and if he signs elsewhere we get a pick
Albies has made such a dramatic  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2019 8:56 pm : link
Improvement in plate discipline. I love this kid.
RE: Why not trade for Baumgartner  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14385384 Earl the goat said:
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12 million a year. Free agent and if he signs elsewhere we get a pick


Could be a deadline target.
Fuck  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2019 8:58 pm : link
This is a long game.
RE: For those that wanted Gio for the  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2019 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14385376 ZGiants98 said:
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5th spot (I was one of them) He has a 7 ERA in Scranton.


He's made 2 starts - in his first game (obviously without a normal ST) he got pounded and in his 2nd start he threw 6 scoreless innings and struck out 10.
RE: Why not trade for Baumgartner  
pjcas18 : 4/13/2019 8:59 pm : link
In comment 14385384 Earl the goat said:
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12 million a year. Free agent and if he signs elsewhere we get a pick


I don't think you get a pick for a player you acquire via trade during the season if they sign elsewhere, I think they need to be on your roster the whole season.
RE: RE: Why not trade for Baumgartner  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2019 9:00 pm : link
In comment 14385395 pjcas18 said:
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12 million a year. Free agent and if he signs elsewhere we get a pick



I don't think you get a pick for a player you acquire via trade during the season if they sign elsewhere, I think they need to be on your roster the whole season.

Correct
also nobody was Gio or bust, they had their choice of many options  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2019 9:00 pm : link
Derek Holland, Wade Miley, Bucholtz, etc. They could have chosen from any number of cheap options on 1 year deals to just minimally provide a depth option.
RE: also nobody was Gio or bust, they had their choice of many options  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14385399 Eric on Li said:
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Derek Holland, Wade Miley, Bucholtz, etc. They could have chosen from any number of cheap options on 1 year deals to just minimally provide a depth option.


These players needed to sign minor league deals and they also needed to want to come to the Mets situation VS other teams. Vargas is making 10 million dollars and coming off a half where he pitched to a 3.88 ERA. It is completely rational for the Mets to have wanted to at least see where they were at with him. Now sign a bunch of those guys to AAA? Sure. But you can't make those players sign minor league deals. Actually, the Mets WERE linked to most of them.
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ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14385392 Eric on Li said:
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5th spot (I was one of them) He has a 7 ERA in Scranton.



He's made 2 starts - in his first game (obviously without a normal ST) he got pounded and in his 2nd start he threw 6 scoreless innings and struck out 10.


Didnt catch his second game so thanks for that. It will bear watching what he does this year because he's clearly regressing.
RE: RE: Why not trade for Baumgartner  
Earl the goat : 4/13/2019 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14385395 pjcas18 said:
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12 million a year. Free agent and if he signs elsewhere we get a pick



I don't think you get a pick for a player you acquire via trade during the season if they sign elsewhere, I think they need to be on your roster the whole season.



Thx for info pj. I think ur right
..  
CMicks3110 : 4/13/2019 9:06 pm : link
New York Mets broadcaster Ron Darling, who is being sued by former teammate Lenny Dykstra, is expected to announce Saturday that he is taking a leave of absence from his broadcasting duties because of health reasons, two close friends of Darling told USA TODAY Sports.
At least oswalt  
giantsFC : 4/13/2019 9:07 pm : link
Knows how to handle a bat as a pitcher
Umps blow the call twice  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 9:11 pm : link
He looked safe as balls.
RE: RE: Brodie made a mistake going with Vargas  
DonQuixote : 4/13/2019 9:13 pm : link
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Also, Oswald obviously is not the answer. Might actually be worse than Vargas.

m

Agreed. I’m not even advocating to sign Kuechel. But how could you enter the season with Vargas if you really wanted to compete? He looks like he’s throwing BP.


Nah, you have to throw strikes in BP...
Toussaint is looking good  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2019 9:15 pm : link
The Braves have some hard decisions to make. If Newcomb continues his inconsistent ways they need to seriously consider moving him to the pen or AAA and going with Toussaint.
Sandy really  
CMicks3110 : 4/13/2019 9:16 pm : link
make a mistake with Vargas. What an awful signing, and unnecessary.
don't worry guys.  
madgiantscow009 : 4/13/2019 9:19 pm : link
we got em right where we want them!

Geez. Ronnie has a tumor in his chest  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 9:20 pm : link
Will be out a month from the booth while he gets treated. :(
RE: ..  
DonQuixote : 4/13/2019 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14385409 CMicks3110 said:
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New York Mets broadcaster Ron Darling, who is being sued by former teammate Lenny Dykstra, is expected to announce Saturday that he is taking a leave of absence from his broadcasting duties because of health reasons, two close friends of Darling told USA TODAY Sports.


He just mentioned that he is having surgery to remove a lump from his chest.
These umpires  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2019 9:21 pm : link
Are having an awful night
RE: Toussaint is looking good  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14385422 Jay on the Island said:
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The Braves have some hard decisions to make. If Newcomb continues his inconsistent ways they need to seriously consider moving him to the pen or AAA and going with Toussaint.


The Mets lineup was really geared up to face a lefty. Not surprised Toussant is mowing down guys like Lagares, Broxton, and Davis.
Conforto is locked in  
DonQuixote : 4/13/2019 9:25 pm : link
.
Vargas needs to be immediately removed from the rotation  
fanofthejets : 4/13/2019 9:26 pm : link
It's sad and disgusting. Not even 1 inning. He is comically inept. He taxes the pen. If this team wants to truly be taken seriously then you cannot have Vargas out there starting

Sometimes these crafty lefties can last forever. Vargas isn't one of them
RE: RE: Toussaint is looking good  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2019 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14385434 ZGiants98 said:
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The Braves have some hard decisions to make. If Newcomb continues his inconsistent ways they need to seriously consider moving him to the pen or AAA and going with Toussaint.



The Mets lineup was really geared up to face a lefty. Not surprised Toussant is mowing down guys like Lagares, Broxton, and Davis.

What about McNeil and Alonso?
RE: RE: RE: Toussaint is looking good  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14385443 Jay on the Island said:
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The Braves have some hard decisions to make. If Newcomb continues his inconsistent ways they need to seriously consider moving him to the pen or AAA and going with Toussaint.



The Mets lineup was really geared up to face a lefty. Not surprised Toussant is mowing down guys like Lagares, Broxton, and Davis.


What about McNeil and Alonso?


lol. I didn't mean every single player in the lineup. And he is pitching well. Good for him.
I’m just messing with you Z  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2019 9:30 pm : link
I know you probably don’t know much about Toussaint because he’s a Brave but he has arguably the highest upside of any Braves prospect.
RE: Vargas needs to be immediately removed from the rotation  
DonQuixote : 4/13/2019 9:31 pm : link
In comment 14385440 fanofthejets said:
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It's sad and disgusting. Not even 1 inning. He is comically inept. He taxes the pen. If this team wants to truly be taken seriously then you cannot have Vargas out there starting

Sometimes these crafty lefties can last forever. Vargas isn't one of them


Also not looking OK physically. Wonder if there is anything off the diamond.
RE: I’m just messing with you Z  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 9:32 pm : link
In comment 14385450 Jay on the Island said:
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I know you probably don’t know much about Toussaint because he’s a Brave but he has arguably the highest upside of any Braves prospect.


Yeah I know who he is and watched him live in ST. Looks much better tonight than I saw him last time.
POLL  
CMicks3110 : 4/13/2019 9:34 pm : link
Does Vargas get another start, or do they pull the plug?
RE: POLL  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14385454 CMicks3110 said:
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Does Vargas get another start, or do they pull the plug?


Well, his next start is an off day so they probably skip him. I think it was his last start. That was really bad and BVW wont mess around. He'll make a switch.
if i were the Mets  
CMicks3110 : 4/13/2019 9:39 pm : link
i'd sign Kimbrel and move Lugo to the rotation rather than Keuchel. I tink Kimbrel is a safer bet to perform than Keuchel is.
RE: RE: I’m just messing with you Z  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2019 9:40 pm : link
In comment 14385452 ZGiants98 said:
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I know you probably don’t know much about Toussaint because he’s a Brave but he has arguably the highest upside of any Braves prospect.



Yeah I know who he is and watched him live in ST. Looks much better tonight than I saw him last time.

He struggled this spring which is why he started in AAA. He was very good last season. He had a good game vs. the Mets last year IIRC.
TDA threw a very nice curveball  
ChaChing : 4/13/2019 9:53 pm : link
unfortunately not a pitcher
how did TDA's arm look?  
CMicks3110 : 4/13/2019 9:54 pm : link
the broadcast indicated his arm looked very good
RE: how did TDA's arm look?  
ChaChing : 4/13/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14385472 CMicks3110 said:
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the broadcast indicated his arm looked very good

Looked like a strong throw. In this case it seems like if accurate there was a good chance at an out. But it wasn't a normal SB attempt of course being a read off a ball in the dirt by Freeman
Watching our LOOGY pitch multiple innings and to mostly  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2019 10:00 pm : link
right handers might be more painful than watching Vargas. Ugh. Just get through this game. lol.
Ron Darling  
giantsFC : 4/13/2019 10:05 pm : link
W a large mass in chest. Will be taking time off. Hope he winds up ok. Already least Gary carter.
Cool little tidbit about McNeil  
ChaChing : 4/13/2019 10:05 pm : link
basically growing up a contact hitter since he was so fast and could get a hit if he could just get it in play
RE: Cool little tidbit about McNeil  
ChaChing : 4/13/2019 10:06 pm : link
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basically growing up a contact hitter since he was so fast and could get a hit if he could just get it in play

And his memory on his 2 Ks from ages 12-14. lol good stuff
Jeff McNeil struck out twice between ages 12-14  
10thAve : 4/13/2019 10:06 pm : link
And he’s still salty about the second at 14 years old. That’s great.
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